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Post by blindfaith on Oct 13, 2011 11:59:44 GMT -5
I know the album hasnt even been released yet, but i, like many of you will be buying it when its released next week.
However the tracklisting had been around for a while, when at first i saw it and seen four tracks i'd already heard, i was a little let down. Granted EOTR & IIHAG were very poor quality recordings, but had been around since 2009, And STC & RM had been around since before the release of DOYS.
Still i was optimistic that DOYS & RM were just demo's and that the finalised, polished version would be different, perhaps with the addition of some new lyrics etc. But to tell you the truth i dont find them greatly different, not so much that i find them head and shoulders above there demo versions.
I'm really enjoying the album at the moment, but cant help feel that when beady eye realeased their album, months before noel i might add, they came back with 13 brand new songs with accompanying b-sides, which held there own just as good.
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 13, 2011 12:02:28 GMT -5
Yeah, but we've got another one to look forward too as well so I forgive him  |
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Post by bonkers on Oct 13, 2011 12:03:50 GMT -5
hmmmm well to be honest we should never of heard STC and RM and if Noel'o had known the songs at soundcheck were being taped i doubt he would of done them
as for beady eye, some of those songs have been around for 10 years as well i.e. the roller and kill for a dream
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 13, 2011 12:05:14 GMT -5
he turned promising soundchecks and demos into amazing songs. there is no rip off for me
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Post by ctmazin on Oct 13, 2011 12:06:15 GMT -5
Simple solution. If you feel like you may be ripped off BEFORE you purchase something, don't buy it. I don't understand your dilemma.
Not really sympathizing with your point either. If you include IPYET, TGR, AOTR, LTLSALOM, ASGOG, we're getting plenty of fresh, new stuff from Noel. With more likely to follow.
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Post by gdforever on Oct 13, 2011 12:06:40 GMT -5
It's your fault for listening to demo leaks and soundcheck...not Noel's
It's not like Noel is releasing something that he has already released.
Fact is. When the BDI album dropped we had 15 tunes and 1 cover.
When Noel's album drops we'll have heard 15 original tunes.
The idea that Noel shouldn't have released tracks because fans have leaked version is moronic.
Many of the BDI songs are from the Oasis period. Only difference is that they hadn't leaked.
Stop being ungrateful.
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Post by Rifles on Oct 13, 2011 12:07:24 GMT -5
Man I think some people's expectations are just insanely high. I'm not a musical expert but I can play a few instruments, read music etc so I know enough about music to feel like I have a good grasp on things. When RM and STC came on in my first run through of the album my jaw nearly hit the floor. Structurally and lyrically they are nearly identical to the demos, but how people can complain about them not being different just boggles my mind.
They're so much more polished and layered. I think they're fantastic and don't feel the slightest bit ripped off. Being that they were rough demos before I don't get why having finished versions with choirs, strings etc is not enough for some people. They sound great!
I was a little nervous when some of the reviews coming out were saying they weren't much different. I was so happy when I heard them for the first time. The strings and choir take them to another level. They go from like 7/10 demos to 9/10 songs.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 13, 2011 12:10:03 GMT -5
Am I the only one who likes having both versions? The soundcheck is great as is the finished song. Depending what mood i'm in i'll listen to one or the other. I don't see the problem, no doubt we'll get an acoustic version at some point anyway.
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Post by start at the end on Oct 13, 2011 12:10:20 GMT -5
^ I concur 100% with Rifles and TL4ever.
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Post by johnnyb on Oct 13, 2011 12:13:34 GMT -5
I know this is a forum and it's purpose is to share opinions and be critical where necessary, but i can't help but think that in this section people are actually sat at home trying to think of negative things about the album / Noel.
As i have said before, Noel is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 13, 2011 12:25:26 GMT -5
^ I concur 100% with Rifles and TL4ever. hehe It had to happen sometime mate ;D |
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Post by bucketboy on Oct 13, 2011 12:33:30 GMT -5
It's your fault for listening to demo leaks and soundcheck...not Noel's It's not like Noel is releasing something that he has already released. Fact is. When the BDI album dropped we had 15 tunes and 1 cover. When Noel's album drops we'll have heard 15 original tunes. The idea that Noel shouldn't have released tracks because fans have leaked version is moronic. Many of the BDI songs are from the Oasis period. Only difference is that they hadn't leaked. Stop being ungrateful. Could not have put it better myself. Some people will always find something to complain about. Even when an amazing album like this comes out. |
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Post by rcknrollstar on Oct 13, 2011 12:34:05 GMT -5
You can't really count EOTR and IIHAG as they're indeed poorly recorded and nothing more than accoustic guitar and vocals. The finished versions of these 2 are so different that they're basically new songs. RM and STC are basically the same with added instruments. The choir and strings are brilliant and so is the ending to STC. And to me that really brings those songs to a higher level. That's if you like the choir and strings, of which there's quite some on the album.
Listening through was 7 new songs for me and I loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2011 12:36:57 GMT -5
Nobody was forced to listen to the leaked demos and sound checks. So critising the album is ludicrous.
The reason they were sound checked was because he intended on recording them for an album. And he has done so.
What were you expecting? Noel to scrap The 4 songs because you listened to them on YouTube...
What a joke.
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Post by matt on Oct 13, 2011 12:44:15 GMT -5
I heard a little clip of Stop The Clocks on Front Row, and I must say, it sounded beautiful and not like the tired demo version. They're all 'new' songs to me.
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Post by TheShakermaker on Oct 13, 2011 13:53:27 GMT -5
It's insane that some people even start to think they're ripped off.
What would have been enough?
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Post by LlAM on Oct 13, 2011 14:20:56 GMT -5
You're really gonna feel raped when you find out some of the same songs are on the AA album!
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Post by oasisdna on Oct 13, 2011 18:35:42 GMT -5
Personally, it's QUALITY over QUANTITY....there's not a single song on BDI's album that can touch even the "poorest" of Noel's tune. Both lyrically and musically I see BDI as uninspiring teenage music. They do absolutely nothing for me. There's something magical about Noel...1 man, 1 guitar alone with his voice can captivate an arena for hours. The man is something to behold.
Of course I respect your opinion but I feel like the richest man in the world when I listen to Noel. Cheers!
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Post by mossy on Oct 13, 2011 18:52:32 GMT -5
Frankly, I won't be happy unless the booklet has the lyrics written in Noel's blood.
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Post by Robohump on Oct 13, 2011 20:08:38 GMT -5
hmmmm well to be honest we should never of heard STC and RM and if Noel'o had known the songs at soundcheck were being taped i doubt he would of done them as for beady eye, some of those songs have been around for 10 years as well i.e. the roller and kill for a dream According to interviews Noel has given, EOTR and IIHAG (the two best songs on the album) only made it because of the soundcheck recording being released. He had basically forgotten/abandoned both songs until fans kept coming up to him and asking about them. Good thing they leaked because they are two of the best songs he's written. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2011 20:12:08 GMT -5
Ripped off? Not at all.
EOTR and IIHAG have turned into majestic songs - especially the latter. Stunning stuff.
RM, while lacking a bit of punch that the demo had, is much more polished. Whereas STC was developed very nicely, indeed. Huge improvement with STC.
Then add the absolute shocking surprises of SOTWB, and especially BA.
How can anyone feel ripped off? The Chief, after all, is back - and how!
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Post by mkoasis on Oct 13, 2011 23:25:59 GMT -5
I'm really enjoying the album at the moment, but cant help feel that when beady eye realeased their album, months before noel i might add, they came back with 13 brand new songs with accompanying b-sides, which held there own just as good. While I certainly wouldn't say "ripped off", I do understand where you're coming from with this sentiment. Listening to the album today, I felt almost like what was new was a 4 song EP of Dream On, SBAJF. Broken Arrow, and Wrong Beach. Not that that's a bad thing, its still a pretty good EP! Just a thought. I can see where you're coming from. But in the end, we got new music. And there's more to come still. |
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Post by andymorris on Oct 14, 2011 0:04:35 GMT -5
If BHN had been released in 2011, due to new technology, we would have heard My big mouth, Getting Better man, Stand By Me, Dont go away, all around the world, stay young 2 to 5 years before. Would you have felt ripped off ? If you want a fresh new album, dont listen to leaks. It's your own fault.
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Post by GIMH on Oct 14, 2011 0:40:36 GMT -5
Gdforever has nailed this one. You'd think Noel was releasing old Oasis b-sides and hoping we wouldn't notice the way some people are going on.
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Post by rupertg on Oct 14, 2011 6:16:02 GMT -5
Does anyone find it weird that Noel and Beady Eye are releasing just one b-side per single?
That's the only area where i feel a bit ripped off.
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