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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 11, 2011 19:13:00 GMT -5
This forum is filled with liberals, so let's rephrase it a bit: We all know that, barring a major miracle within 13 months, the Republican nominee will defeat Obama, so who would you rather it be? If you're not comfortable realizing that simple fact yet, for the liberals here, let's make it hypothetical: Should Obama lose, which Republican candidate would you like to see as President? Simple question for the few conservatives here (like Lions  ) |
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Post by NYR on Oct 11, 2011 19:55:14 GMT -5
i would vote for huntsman in a heartbeat. if any of the others get nominated, i'm going for obama.
just imagine how worse things would have been with mccain and palin...
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Post by masterplan200 on Oct 11, 2011 20:04:09 GMT -5
^did McCain pull out? I'm not up to speed here
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 12, 2011 8:10:56 GMT -5
you americans are the stupiest citizens in the world. obama is the best thing for your country. just give him more time. it's not that easy to fix all the shit that bush did
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 8:20:49 GMT -5
you americans are the stupiest citizens in the world. obama is the best thing for your country. just give him more time. it's not that easy to fix all the shit that bush did no need to brand all americans 'stupid'  |
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 12, 2011 8:49:30 GMT -5
you americans are the stupiest citizens in the world. obama is the best thing for your country. just give him more time. it's not that easy to fix all the shit that bush did no need to brand all americans 'stupid' yeah sorry. it's just annoying to see how they try to slaughter obama. the americans are obsessed about their free capitalism thing. it will ruin the whole country |
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Post by thuperthonic on Oct 12, 2011 13:38:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if one of these lunatics got into office and got his/her way with everything. At least that would prove to idiots like NL4E that Republicans are just as useless as Democrats and there really is no point to any of this.
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Post by retrolego on Oct 12, 2011 13:41:34 GMT -5
Newt Gingrich because I don't know who any of them are but he has the coolest name
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Post by Let It🩸 on Oct 12, 2011 16:35:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if one of these lunatics got into office and got his/her way with everything. At least that would prove to idiots like NL4E that Republicans are just as useless as Democrats and there really is no point to any of this. you are awesome. aloha! |
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Post by thesman22 on Oct 12, 2011 18:07:25 GMT -5
NL4E:
Being a registered Republican myself, I really appreciate this thread. I was for Cain before it became cool to be a fan of his, but I have to say Romney has the best chance to win. I do think that Obama will win, regardless of who runs against him, unfortunately.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 12, 2011 22:22:45 GMT -5
I love how NL4E thinks Obama has a chance of losing against any of these guys. There's a reason Republicans are constantly looking for someone--anyone--to enter the field at the eleventh hour. None of these guys have what it takes to win.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2011 22:51:41 GMT -5
All politicians have sold their souls for a few votes here and few more there. They are all pretty well useless. Does it matter? Sure, I guess you can go with the "lesser of the evils" theory here. No country is perfect. People need to get up off their ass and take care of themselves first, then maybe help a neighbor or two.
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Post by pheel on Oct 13, 2011 0:24:56 GMT -5
Yes, Bush fucked our economy, Yes, Obama has not done the right things to fix the country, HELL no would I want to vote for another Republican. So far republican solutions include, "Get Obama out, get me in, and somehow things will get better." Now democrats are not saints, far from it, but Unfortunately, I feel I will have to vote for the lesser of two evils in 2012. The lesser being Democrats, and I'm even reluctant to do that. Honestly the only republican I somehow agree with is Ron Paul, and Hermain Cain, but neither have convinced me to vote for them.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2011 8:35:42 GMT -5
I love how NL4E thinks Obama has a chance of losing against any of these guys. There's a reason Republicans are constantly looking for someone--anyone--to enter the field at the eleventh hour. None of these guys have what it takes to win. Absolutely irrelevant. Unless the election is very close (see Bush v. Gore) or one candidate refuses to campaign, Presidential elections are not decided by campaigns. Campaigns are pretty much useless when it comes to Presidential Elections. The elections, however, are driven by the economy. With the economy this bad, and unemployment this high, Obama would lose to every single candidate up there. The trend is more important than the number, but if the likes of unemployment are still this high (or deemed to be not much better) by this time next year he will be voted out. Some recent examples: *McCain was leading Obama until the 2008 financial crisis took hold. *George H. W. Bush had approval ratings in the upper 80s a year prior to his election (following the success of Desert Storm), but the economy turned sour and Clinton's famous line "It's the economy, stupid" rang true. *Do I really even need to mention the horrible Carter years, and how it ushered in Ronald Reagan? *Also, note how Ronald Reagan's approval ratings were low in his first term, but as the recovery took hold approaching his re-election, he surged and won in yet another landslide - coinciding with the economy If the economy is still bad, which it's suppose to be, Obama stands no chance. As I said, Obama needs an economic miracle for him to clinch a second term. I stand by that assessment. Watch and learn how politics works, my friend. |
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 13, 2011 8:50:13 GMT -5
I love how NL4E thinks Obama has a chance of losing against any of these guys. There's a reason Republicans are constantly looking for someone--anyone--to enter the field at the eleventh hour. None of these guys have what it takes to win. Absolutely irrelevant. Unless the election is very close (see Bush v. Gore) or one candidate refuses to campaign, Presidential elections are not decided by campaigns. Campaigns are pretty much useless when it comes to Presidential Elections. sure. or when you have your brother as a gouverneur in texas |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 13, 2011 8:55:09 GMT -5
Additionally, Obama currently stands at 41% approval in Gallup (and was as low as 38% in the past week). Also, according to Gallup, only 26% of people approve of how he's handled the economy.
With numbers like those, especially the latter with it being the number one priority of the electorate, it's a long way back for Obama.
Not saying it's impossible, but he needs an economic turn around for it to be attainable. Time is starting to run out.
Obama, even, has recently described himself as the "underdog" for 2012. I think that highlights it, really.
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 13, 2011 9:00:57 GMT -5
the most important thing is to unite your country. i have the feeling that there are two sides working against each other. you need a closed society that follows one way. you will never get out of all this shit without being one unity
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Post by Cast on Oct 13, 2011 10:16:59 GMT -5
Ron Paul
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Post by thuperthonic on Oct 13, 2011 15:40:18 GMT -5
Ron Jeremy
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Post by RocketMan on Oct 13, 2011 16:33:48 GMT -5
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Oct 13, 2011 21:43:59 GMT -5
I love how NL4E thinks Obama has a chance of losing against any of these guys. There's a reason Republicans are constantly looking for someone--anyone--to enter the field at the eleventh hour. None of these guys have what it takes to win. Absolutely irrelevant. Unless the election is very close (see Bush v. Gore) or one candidate refuses to campaign, Presidential elections are not decided by campaigns. Campaigns are pretty much useless when it comes to Presidential Elections. The elections, however, are driven by the economy. With the economy this bad, and unemployment this high, Obama would lose to every single candidate up there. The trend is more important than the number, but if the likes of unemployment are still this high (or deemed to be not much better) by this time next year he will be voted out. Some recent examples: *McCain was leading Obama until the 2008 financial crisis took hold. *George H. W. Bush had approval ratings in the upper 80s a year prior to his election (following the success of Desert Storm), but the economy turned sour and Clinton's famous line "It's the economy, stupid" rang true. *Do I really even need to mention the horrible Carter years, and how it ushered in Ronald Reagan? *Also, note how Ronald Reagan's approval ratings were low in his first term, but as the recovery took hold approaching his re-election, he surged and won in yet another landslide - coinciding with the economy If the economy is still bad, which it's suppose to be, Obama stands no chance. As I said, Obama needs an economic miracle for him to clinch a second term. I stand by that assessment. Watch and learn how politics works, my friend. Meh...neither of us know a fucking thing. It's still more than a year out. But young people still like Obama, and they do vote in presidential elections. 41% percent as an approval rating is not bad at all considering the state of the economy. |
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Post by manualex on Oct 13, 2011 22:21:56 GMT -5
Where is the Vanilla Ice/Eminem option?
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Post by drteter on Oct 14, 2011 10:28:48 GMT -5
I love how NL4E thinks Obama has a chance of losing against any of these guys. There's a reason Republicans are constantly looking for someone--anyone--to enter the field at the eleventh hour. None of these guys have what it takes to win. Absolutely irrelevant. Unless the election is very close (see Bush v. Gore) or one candidate refuses to campaign, Presidential elections are not decided by campaigns. Campaigns are pretty much useless when it comes to Presidential Elections. The elections, however, are driven by the economy. With the economy this bad, and unemployment this high, Obama would lose to every single candidate up there. The trend is more important than the number, but if the likes of unemployment are still this high (or deemed to be not much better) by this time next year he will be voted out. Some recent examples: *McCain was leading Obama until the 2008 financial crisis took hold. *George H. W. Bush had approval ratings in the upper 80s a year prior to his election (following the success of Desert Storm), but the economy turned sour and Clinton's famous line "It's the economy, stupid" rang true.*Do I really even need to mention the horrible Carter years, and how it ushered in Ronald Reagan? *Also, note how Ronald Reagan's approval ratings were low in his first term, but as the recovery took hold approaching his re-election, he surged and won in yet another landslide - coinciding with the economy If the economy is still bad, which it's suppose to be, Obama stands no chance. As I said, Obama needs an economic miracle for him to clinch a second term. I stand by that assessment. Watch and learn how politics works, my friend. The bolded bit says to me that there's a lot of time for the economy to turn around before anyone has to choose between Obama and the Republican nominee-to-be-named-later. I'm inclined to agree that there's very little point to this whole politics thing. The president can only react to the movements of the economy. He in no way determines its direction. The government can only soften the blow when shit goes bad and try to keep it from getting out of hand during the good times. |
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Post by masterplan200 on Oct 14, 2011 21:06:37 GMT -5
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Post by caro on Oct 16, 2011 21:01:11 GMT -5
you americans are the stupiest citizens in the world. obama is the best thing for your country. just give him more time. it's not that easy to fix all the shit that bush did Shows you have no idea how Obama has been working on destroying the very fabric of America since he was elected and pushed hasty decisions in order to push his doctrines... I am partial to some of the republican candidates... I don't like Perry and he probably dug his own grave a while ago anyway... Michelle Bachman... hmmm not loving her either. Right now, it looks like Mitt Romney is going to be the one but there is still some time for surprises... Look what happened with Obama... Overpowered Hillary (unfortunately) and took everyone by surprise. As for Obama, even Democrats are distancing themselves from him... He couldn't even get his latest jobs bill passed... He used to have a 92% approval rate with African Americans and now it is down to 42%... I do wish Republicans would evolve a little on some social issues which shouldn't even be issues but I know that there will not be a perfect candidate for me. |
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