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Post by reevzieoasis on Oct 10, 2011 7:35:02 GMT -5
i think liam takes noels songs up a notch. there's certain songs he couldnt sing, but i personally think if he sand everything except for what a life and the death of you and me it would have taken those songs to a higher place. i've listened to the album 3 times and am not really digging it. I think record machine is worse than the demo. dream on, jesus freaks and stranded on the wrong beach are very average. what a life is growing on me, but not a great album. I hope you are ducking for cover after posting that as 99% of the Noel police on here will batter you for having an opinion that differs to theirs. ;D i'm not ducking! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 7:35:04 GMT -5
From 2009 onwards when you hear a new Noel Gallagher written song Liam Gallagher should not come into the equation. Best post in ages |
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Post by revol on Oct 10, 2011 7:42:26 GMT -5
The only thing Liam would be singing is the Eastenders tune in front of his TV if it wasn't for Noel.
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Post by chiefpunker on Oct 10, 2011 7:44:30 GMT -5
This whole album could have been a great Oasis record, with Liam's voice.. Oh well, it's great regardless!
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Post by gdforever on Oct 10, 2011 11:09:42 GMT -5
Not fair? More like true, Liam could sing alot of Noel's new songs but they would have to be completely dropped a few keys for him to do so, i mean he couldn't even sing My Big Mouth in its normal key. Im not bashing him i'm just telling the truth, he is sounding great with BDI but the songs on DGSS fit his voice nicely. and dropping the key to suit Liam's voice would ruin the song? Errrr no. It would still be better cause it has Liams voice. And the album would still be better cause it would have more variation. The one thing that bores me about Liam is that he actually doesn't have much variation. He's got the one he uses for rockers and the one he uses for ballads and then, especially on DGSS, any actually variety is achieved in the production. |
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Post by barnafin95 on Oct 10, 2011 11:15:22 GMT -5
The two that stand out for me are Dream On and The Wrong Beach
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Post by jilliam on Oct 10, 2011 14:54:43 GMT -5
The only thing Liam would be singing is the Eastenders tune in front of his TV if it wasn't for Noel. FUCK RIGHT OFF! Show a bit of respect. Liam was destined for greatness as a singer/front man. Without Noel, Liam would have been discovered by some other band. Talent like his, is a one of a kind. And yes, Noel had the songs but, WITHOUT Liam, those songs would have NEVER in a MILLION years been what they were and thus leaving Noel to continue roadie'ing for the Inspirals. He auditioned to be their lead singer but, they felt he didn't cut it. And quite frank I like Noels voice, for what it is and partly bc its Noel, the guy who created anthems that are going to really live forever but, aside from that, Noel doesn't have that charisma, that distinct voice (yes even though its changed) Liam has and that's were IMO, some of his songs falter a bit. Anyone with an acoustic guitar can write their own songs and sing them too but, you need that special voice to pull them off. |
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Post by revol on Oct 10, 2011 15:04:00 GMT -5
The only thing Liam would be singing is the Eastenders tune in front of his TV if it wasn't for Noel. FUCK RIGHT OFF! Show a bit of respect. Liam was destined for greatness as a singer/front man. Without Noel, Liam would have been discovered by some other band. Talent like his, is a one of a kind. And yes, Noel had the songs but, WITHOUT Liam, those songs would have NEVER in a MILLION years been what they were and thus leaving Noel to continue roadie'ing for the Inspirals. He auditioned to be their lead singer but, they felt he didn't cut it. And quite frank I like Noels voice, for what it is and partly bc its Noel, the guy who created anthems that are going to really live forever but, aside from that, Noel doesn't have that charisma, that distinct voice (yes even though its changed) Liam has and that's were IMO, some of his songs falter a bit. Anyone with an acoustic guitar can write their own songs and sing them too but, you need that special voice to pull them off. Oh dear, you must have been properly pissed off when Liam got married. |
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 10, 2011 15:04:55 GMT -5
stranded on the wrong beach big time
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Post by gdforever on Oct 10, 2011 15:05:06 GMT -5
FUCK RIGHT OFF! Show a bit of respect. Liam was destined for greatness as a singer/front man. Without Noel, Liam would have been discovered by some other band. Talent like his, is a one of a kind. And yes, Noel had the songs but, WITHOUT Liam, those songs would have NEVER in a MILLION years been what they were and thus leaving Noel to continue roadie'ing for the Inspirals. He auditioned to be their lead singer but, they felt he didn't cut it. And quite frank I like Noels voice, for what it is and partly bc its Noel, the guy who created anthems that are going to really live forever but, aside from that, Noel doesn't have that charisma, that distinct voice (yes even though its changed) Liam has and that's were IMO, some of his songs falter a bit. Anyone with an acoustic guitar can write their own songs and sing them too but, you need that special voice to pull them off. Oh dear, you must have been properly pissed off when Liam got married. Remember that chick when Noel got married? The psycho one? lol |
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Post by jilliam on Oct 10, 2011 15:09:53 GMT -5
FUCK RIGHT OFF! Show a bit of respect. Liam was destined for greatness as a singer/front man. Without Noel, Liam would have been discovered by some other band. Talent like his, is a one of a kind. And yes, Noel had the songs but, WITHOUT Liam, those songs would have NEVER in a MILLION years been what they were and thus leaving Noel to continue roadie'ing for the Inspirals. He auditioned to be their lead singer but, they felt he didn't cut it. And quite frank I like Noels voice, for what it is and partly bc its Noel, the guy who created anthems that are going to really live forever but, aside from that, Noel doesn't have that charisma, that distinct voice (yes even though its changed) Liam has and that's were IMO, some of his songs falter a bit. Anyone with an acoustic guitar can write their own songs and sing them too but, you need that special voice to pull them off. Oh dear, you must have been properly pissed off when Liam got married. Not in the slightest. I do feel Patsy was a hotter chick than Nicole though. |
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Post by GIMH on Oct 10, 2011 15:10:42 GMT -5
It is irrelevant to say that no-one would have heard Liam's voice but for Noel though, because no-one would have ever heard Noel's songs but for Liam and I think most of us know it works that way.
Whatever your opinion is now on who is better (it will always be Liam for me but I respect people preferring Noel's voice) to deny the lack of dependability in the beginning is ridiculous.
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Post by oasis6 on Oct 10, 2011 15:13:46 GMT -5
I think also when some people hear Noel reach a certain high pitch, they immediately think of Liam singing a song like SOTEOTN or AGN or MOS, and go no way he can even hit something like that. But also remember he can hit high notes too. Like in FA or the I'm coming up parts in Wigwam. Just because Liam has more nasal and crackle in his voice these days, doesn't mean he can't hit certain notes. Wrong Beach, Dream On and Record Machine for sure could have had Liam. Stop the Clocks and Broken Arrow maybe as well. EOTR maybe but the song would have to be adjusted.
Again, Liam's voice isn't the same but its not dreadful and I think he pulled of some strong higher pitched vocals for BE. Its just that lately he wants more swaggerish songs, leading to a rougher vocal.
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Post by revol on Oct 10, 2011 15:16:08 GMT -5
Oh dear, you must have been properly pissed off when Liam got married. Not in the slightest. I do feel Patsy was a hotter chick than Nicole though. For the record, I do have respect for Liam - that's de facto my 10 months son's second name. |
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Post by jilliam on Oct 10, 2011 15:19:00 GMT -5
Not in the slightest. I do feel Patsy was a hotter chick than Nicole though. For the record, I do have respect for Liam - that's de facto my 10 months son's second name. hahaha your EastEnders quip did make me laugh though but, then I mulled it over for a few seconds and just though W-T-F???!! And why only the middle name? why not his first?  lol  |
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 10, 2011 15:19:13 GMT -5
Broken Arrow, Dream On, Record Machine, Stop the Clocks and Wrong Beach.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 15:20:30 GMT -5
and dropping the key to suit Liam's voice would ruin the song? Errrr no. It would still be better cause it has Liams voice. And the album would still be better cause it would have more variation. The one thing that bores me about Liam is that he actually doesn't have much variation. He's got the one he uses for rockers and the one he uses for ballads and then, especially on DGSS, any actually variety is achieved in the production. You know up until yesterday, I was REALLY secretly hoping for an Oasis reunion in the near future. But after hearing Noel's album yesterday, now I couldn't care less. It is apparent (at least to my ears) that having Liam sing these Noel-written songs wouldn't actually improve my enjoyment of them significantly. The songs are really good as is, on their own. Liam seems happy doing his own thing now anyway, and Noel is free to experiment further. What a blessing. |
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Post by nutsngum on Oct 10, 2011 15:45:15 GMT -5
The one thing that bores me about Liam is that he actually doesn't have much variation. He's got the one he uses for rockers and the one he uses for ballads and then, especially on DGSS, any actually variety is achieved in the production. You know up until yesterday, I was REALLY secretly hoping for an Oasis reunion in the near future. But after hearing Noel's album yesterday, now I couldn't care less. It is apparent (at least to my ears) that having Liam sing these Noel-written songs wouldn't actually improve my enjoyment of them significantly. The songs are really good as is, on their own. Liam seems happy doing his own thing now anyway, and Noel is free to experiment further. What a blessing. This album has given Noel freedom to do what he wants by the sound of things - whether that's good or bad (mainly good I'd say). Liam's taste is so insular, I think he'd be happy if all Oasis songs sounded a bit like The Beatles, The Kinks and The Who. Noel's put a lot of different instrumentation on this record. Playing the Beady Eye album and the HFB album side by side, well, it's jarring how adventurous one is, at least production wise. There's no way in a million years that we'd have a record that sounds like this if Oasis were still together. It simply isn't a case of saying put this Beady Eye song on the album, make Liam sing about 6 of Noel's songs and we'd have the best Oasis album since 1994. I can imagine that in the writing and recording process for an Oasis album a lot of Noel's songs would either sound very bland and safe, or be scrapped all together. I think that if a new Oasis record was released in 2011, it would probably sound a lot staler than the stuff that Noel's about to put out. Noel does somehow seem more connected to reality, how music of this genre should sound now, rather than Beady Eye's "la la la la we're not listening in our mind it's still the 60's" revivalism trad rock. |
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Post by J.B on Oct 10, 2011 15:56:28 GMT -5
Without Noel Liam would be nothing; without Liam Noel would be nothing:
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 16:38:59 GMT -5
Without Noel Liam would be nothing; without Liam Noel would be nothing: Yes, but that was the past. That has absolutely no bearing on how things are now. |
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lol 
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