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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 9, 2011 23:34:59 GMT -5
Noel needs to get someone like Nigel Godrich for his next album, someone who leaves the parts room to breathe and preserves dynamics. I love this album, but my ears feel assaulted after listening to it for a while.
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Post by CFC2013 on Oct 9, 2011 23:35:48 GMT -5
It's not in the best quality. The CD version will sound much better.
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Post by youandmegirl on Oct 9, 2011 23:37:26 GMT -5
Noel needs to get someone like Nigel Godrich for his next album, someone who leaves the parts room to breathe and preserves dynamics. I love this album, but my ears feel assaulted after listening to it for a while. I fuckin agree. Even Never Mind the Bollocks felt like it took its time to assault, you know what I mean? |
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Post by youandmegirl on Oct 9, 2011 23:38:20 GMT -5
Might have someting to do with the shitty rhythm and percussion sound
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Post by Velo on Oct 10, 2011 0:03:12 GMT -5
Yeah, Noel really needs to ditch Sardy for the next album. This is starting to sound far too Owen Morris-ish.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 0:52:18 GMT -5
ffs there is no auto tune on this album
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Post by gdforever on Oct 10, 2011 0:53:26 GMT -5
The idea that anyone could compare this album with the coked out craziness of BHN is outlandish.
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 0:55:55 GMT -5
THE DRUMS ARE JUST POUNDING ON EVERY SINGLE TRACK AND IT'S AWFUL... this is both the fault of the drummer and Sardy.
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Post by gdforever on Oct 10, 2011 0:57:18 GMT -5
BUT BHN? REALLY?
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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 10, 2011 0:57:52 GMT -5
THE DRUMS ARE JUST POUNDING ON EVERY SINGLE TRACK AND IT'S AWFUL... this is both the fault of the drummer and Sardy. I agree 100%, but at least it's not as bad as DBTT. Whoever thought that Mucky Fingers followed by Lyla was pleasant... |
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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 10, 2011 1:09:34 GMT -5
At least we know the AA album will be produced well. Like them or not, they are excellent producers. Notice how much more "separated" the instruments are in this than in Noel's stuff:
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Post by shoes222 on Oct 10, 2011 1:16:45 GMT -5
I agree with you, I wouldn't even begin to compare this album to BHN. While NGHFB is extravagant, it's also very mature sounding. Be Here Now is bloated, overextended mess... I even feel like I'm doing cocaine along with them just by listening to it. Not that I don't love BHN though, it's very fun and youthful. The BIGGEST difference between this album though and BHN (and the first two albums as well) is that BHN is very spontaneous, the songs flow right out...as soon as Noel came up with it, it was recorded. (with the exception of AATW). NGHFB sounds very, very meticulously planned overall. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Oct 10, 2011 5:00:32 GMT -5
THE DRUMS ARE JUST POUNDING ON EVERY SINGLE TRACK AND IT'S AWFUL... this is both the fault of the drummer and Sardy. Exactly what I said in one of the gazillion other threads! I'm a big fan of drums but I have never in my life exprecienced such annoying dominating drumloops! Noel should've used musicians to record the album and not to all the instruments himself. And he really needs to get rid of Sardy asap. |
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Post by gdforever on Oct 10, 2011 10:28:11 GMT -5
He didn't record the drums
He should have given his drummer more freedom...or gotten a better drummer.
It was my one concern about the album...unfortunately ir was realized.
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Post by Northern Soul on Oct 10, 2011 11:37:49 GMT -5
People need to learn the difference between auto-tune and vocal effects like echo and reverb.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 10, 2011 11:49:42 GMT -5
I don't believe someone like Noel would allow the drums to go on there if he wasn't happy with them. For about 4 songs they sound exactly the same, I don't blame the drummer though the mid-tempo pace of the majority of the songs probably doesn't help.
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Post by somedaysoon on Oct 10, 2011 12:06:52 GMT -5
People need to learn the difference between auto-tune and vocal effects like echo and reverb. I know the differences between those. There IS autotune on this album. I don't understand how you can listen to EOTR or SOTWB and not notice it. |
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Post by start at the end on Oct 10, 2011 12:11:47 GMT -5
don't you people know anything?
"auto-tune" is the new "middle eight" of the L4EVER forum.
let's mis-apply as often as humanly-fkn-possible to appear like we know what we're talking about to a smattering of dunderheads who don't know any better.
dense turds.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2011 12:15:46 GMT -5
Times like this really bring out the top professional producers on this forum
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Post by Cast on Oct 10, 2011 12:17:58 GMT -5
"auto-tune" is the new "middle eight" of the L4EVER forum. let's mis-apply as often as humanly-fkn-possible to appear like we know what we're talking about to a smattering of dunderheads who don't know any better. this post cracked me up. its pretty true actually. |
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Post by LlAM on Oct 10, 2011 12:27:09 GMT -5
I love how people say they can or can not hear auto tune.
The "sound" of autotune can range from anything between T-Pain and natural voice depending on the set up.
Some of Noels vocals sound slightly "t-Pain"-ish but that could just as well be due to layers of vocals and reverb as much as actual autotune.
In other places were Noel sounds "natural" they could easily have used autotune without anyone noticing.
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Post by mossy88 on Oct 10, 2011 12:35:05 GMT -5
you lot asked for the album for fucks sake, now shut the fuck up moaning and just enjoy the genius of noel gallagher!!!
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Post by Headmaster on Oct 10, 2011 12:50:14 GMT -5
STC feels too laboured for my tastes, the demo sounded menancing and somber, this new version is to soft.
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Post by beadydg on Oct 10, 2011 13:12:43 GMT -5
THE DRUMS ARE JUST POUNDING ON EVERY SINGLE TRACK AND IT'S AWFUL... this is both the fault of the drummer and Sardy. Being a drummer myself I totally agree with most here that say most songs are built around the same drumbeat, but then look at dm with the basic 4/4, then whiteys drumming on wtsmg I learnt wonderwall which was basically dlbia and cs minus a few fills. All the great drummers reuse shit, look at reni on his high hat or ringo or even Mitch mitchell, look at the songs as a individual and not a collective you may see a different side to what is a a great album. I would love to have whitey back tho! |
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Post by AubreyOasis on Oct 10, 2011 13:30:32 GMT -5
About the drums, I partially agree with what have been said. But for me it is not such a big deal, really. Those tunes are simply too good to be spoiled by that. And, don't forget we are fans: we listen to the album on repeat 10 times a day. I am quite sure many "casual" listeners that have these songs in their playlists along with songs from other albums will not even notice.
It is also true that listening to this album can be "exhausting" at times because there are several songs that are so "over the top" and you get so emotionally involved. But, in my opinion, this is precisely the reason that makes it great and that made so great many of the past oasis songs (e.g. Masterplan, Champagne Supernova,...): this is not background music to listen to while you do other things
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