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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2011 17:08:10 GMT -5
The evidence was weak, but i still didn't think that they would both be cleared for the murder of Meredith Kercher, what do the rest of you make of it.
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Post by NYR on Oct 3, 2011 18:10:52 GMT -5
good. i feel she was fucked by three things: a prosecutor trying to make a name for himself, the british/italian media looking to sell the most papers, and anti-americanism prevalent throughout europe.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 4, 2011 7:02:35 GMT -5
FIVE REASONS KNOX IS GUILTY
1) The confession.
Knox confessed that she was in the house on the night of the murder and that she heard Miss Kercher scream, identifying a Congolese bar owner, Patrick Lumumba, as the assailant. She told the court during the trial that the confession was made under duress but then repeated the entire account in a five page memorandum the next morning.
2) The false accusation.
The prosecution said the fact that Knox falsely accused Lumumba of being the killer was a sign of her own guilt and an attempt to throw them off her trail. He was arrested in a dawn raid by armed police and spent two weeks in jail. It was only by chance that a Swiss businessman read about the case and came forward to say he had been talking to Lumumba in his bar on the night of the murder — offering him a rock-solid alibi. Lumumba says Knox nearly ruined his life and is suing her for defamation.
3) The alibi.
Sollecito could not back up Knox’s alibi on the night of the murder.
She claimed she spent the evening with him, smoking marijuana, watching the French film Amelie and making love. But Sollecito told police he could not remember if Knox was with him that evening or not.
Even assuming his memory was hazy because of the drugs, it seemed odd that a young man who had just embarked on a new relationship could not recall whether he had spent the night with his girlfriend or not.
4) Computer and telephone records.
Sollecito claimed he used his computer to download and watch cartoons and Amelie. But computer experts told the court that there was no activity on his laptop between 9.10pm on Nov 1, and 5.32am the next morning — the time frame in which the murder took place.
Knox and Sollecito turned off their mobile phones on the night of the murder, from around 8.40pm, and turned them back on at around 6am, inviting further suspicion.
5) The staged break-in.
A bedroom belonging to one of Miss Kercher’s Italian flatmates was ransacked on the night of the murder, with a window smashed with a rock. But police said the break-in was staged - broken glass from the window was found on top of clothes scattered on the floor, suggesting the window was broken after the contents of the room were messed up. Prosecutors accused Knox and her boyfriend of staging the break-in to make the killing look like a burglary that had turned into rape and murder.
Saw this on another forum, and yeah full proof evidence is missing but there is something in it. At the very least they no more than they have said.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2011 7:31:13 GMT -5
nobody from the public should accuse or defend anybody because they DO NOT KNOW.
people on tv who arent associated with the case who claim the ruling was right are wrong are just attention seeking c-unts. the almost show-biz like publicity the media has given the case makes me sick tbh, just cashing in by exploiting somebodys death.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 4, 2011 7:41:06 GMT -5
nobody from the public should accuse or defend anybody because they DO NOT KNOW. people on tv who arent associated with the case who claim the ruling was right are wrong are just attention seeking c-unts. the almost show-biz like publicity the media has given the case makes me sick tbh, just cashing in by exploiting somebodys death. Well we do know, the court case was televised so the evidence has been put in the public domain. So we are capable of forming an opinion at least. The victim in this case has almost been forgotten due to the frenzy surrounding the possible assailant which is what makes me sick.
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Post by globe on Oct 4, 2011 8:01:15 GMT -5
Guilty as sin, however the police and prosecution made a right arse of their case.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 4, 2011 10:23:12 GMT -5
I haven't followed it closely by any means, but the tidbits I have read I've come around to the conclusion that she's not guilty. I pretty much agree with NYR. That Rudy guy who is in jail killed her. I don't think Amanda had anything to do with it.
Real fucking shame she lost 4 years of her life for something she didn't do.
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Post by bonkers on Oct 4, 2011 10:28:19 GMT -5
I haven't followed it closely by any means, but the tidbits I have read I've come around to the conclusion that she's not guilty. I pretty much agree with NYR. That Rudy guy who is in jail killed her. I don't think Amanda had anything to do with it. Real fucking shame she lost 4 years of her life for something she didn't do. he has already stated he didn't act alone
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Post by tomlivesforever on Oct 4, 2011 11:19:02 GMT -5
I haven't followed it closely by any means, but the tidbits I have read I've come around to the conclusion that she's not guilty. I pretty much agree with NYR. That Rudy guy who is in jail killed her. I don't think Amanda had anything to do with it. Real fucking shame she lost 4 years of her life for something she didn't do. Well done Sherlock, maybe they should set you to work on some other unsolved cases. 'errrrrrr well I don't know who died or how and I haven't really read any of the circumstances but I think its that guy'
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2014 17:32:39 GMT -5
The case that never seems to end. They don't seem to have double jeopardy in Italy. If Amanda Knox is found guilty at the end of all the possible legal process do you think she should be extradited?
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Post by globe on Feb 12, 2014 9:27:05 GMT -5
The case that never seems to end. They don't seem to have double jeopardy in Italy. If Amanda Knox is found guilty at the end of all the possible legal process do you think she should be extradited? Yes, but I doubt America will agree to any request from Italy to extradite her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 9:57:25 GMT -5
The case that never seems to end. They don't seem to have double jeopardy in Italy. If Amanda Knox is found guilty at the end of all the possible legal process do you think she should be extradited? Yes, but I doubt America will agree to any request from Italy to extradite her. You can stop doubting WE WONT ..... It's been a fucked up trial from the start and Italy has not cooperated with us in the past either. Not happening ..I'm not saying she's innocent ,truth is grey there I think ,,,.but as AMANDA Knox is going nowhere ,.....and rightly so the evidence is to convoluted and the case is too political now , nobody in the Italian Supreme Court cares of justice it's all capitulating to public outcry over the perceived special treatment of a American
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 10:00:24 GMT -5
Guilty as sin, however the police and prosecution made a right arse of their case. Really ? I only just saw this , your entitled to your opinion but what sin is she guilty of ..? The actual murder ? I think not ,accomplice or something ?or some failure to report . She did 4 years she is not guilty as sin of committing the actual murder... I think the 4 years she served should cover a crime where she did not actually kill someone by her own hand
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2014 10:03:11 GMT -5
Ross if you really want to get your head twisted ,, how about Casey Anthony ?? That my friend is colossal cluster fuck for day 1 , they over charged , had no real evidence, and created a shitstorm here Probably could have pled her out to some jail time instead of going for grand slam ...and like Knox still sat 4 years
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Post by globe on Feb 13, 2014 3:47:15 GMT -5
Guilty as sin, however the police and prosecution made a right arse of their case. Really ? I only just saw this , your entitled to your opinion but what sin is she guilty of ..? The actual murder ? I think not ,accomplice or something ?or some failure to report . She did 4 years she is not guilty as sin of committing the actual murder... I think the 4 years she served should cover a crime where she did not actually kill someone by her own hand I formed that opinion after reading the evidence. For me, she was definitely involved in that girls death, I'm not saying she was the one that struck the final blow that killed her, but for me she was there when she died and played a part in her dying. So, even if she did not actually kill her, fours years is not enough for me. themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 4:00:28 GMT -5
Really ? I only just saw this , your entitled to your opinion but what sin is she guilty of ..? The actual murder ? I think not ,accomplice or something ?or some failure to report . She did 4 years she is not guilty as sin of committing the actual murder... I think the 4 years she served should cover a crime where she did not actually kill someone by her own hand I formed that opinion after reading the evidence. For me, she was definitely involved in that girls death, I'm not saying she was the one that struck the final blow that killed her, but for me she was there when she died and played a part in her dying. So, even if she did not actually kill her, fours years is not enough for me. themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_PageFair enough , I think they overcharged , like Casey Anthony here , ...the question is how much involvement , ...".my guess ...I face saving move where she pleads guilty to a lesser offense and they give her time served and probation or fine to save face . The intersting fact though is I don't know if you ever heard of dog the bounty hunter,..but he became famous by going to Mexico to Get a rapist who was there , I wonder if a Italian bounty hunter would ever try that ?? ... Dog had to sit in a Mexican jail fot that , but that's part Y how he got that show .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 12:34:44 GMT -5
Really ? I only just saw this , your entitled to your opinion but what sin is she guilty of ..? The actual murder ? I think not ,accomplice or something ?or some failure to report . She did 4 years she is not guilty as sin of committing the actual murder... I think the 4 years she served should cover a crime where she did not actually kill someone by her own hand I formed that opinion after reading the evidence. For me, she was definitely involved in that girls death, I'm not saying she was the one that struck the final blow that killed her, but for me she was there when she died and played a part in her dying. So, even if she did not actually kill her, fours years is not enough for me. themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_PageAnd I also don't believe she is totally innocent ...for the record
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Post by Sternumman on Feb 13, 2014 13:07:36 GMT -5
Guilty or not I don't think there is anyway she is extradited. At least she was smart enough not to go back to Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2014 13:12:11 GMT -5
Guilty or not I don't think there is anyway she is extradited. At least she was smart enough not to go back to Europe. Absolutely zero shot at extradition , ithe Italians haven't cooperated with us since they failed to allow us to extradide lucky Luciano ... However I liked lucky
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Post by Let It Bleed on Feb 15, 2014 11:15:40 GMT -5
i think she's guilty, just a vibe i get.
if anything, she's really wild in bed and might wanna at least consider using 'safe' words.
God bless.
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