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Sept 28, 2011 11:31:50 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 28, 2011 11:31:50 GMT -5
Anyone else use this? I'm just starting to get used to it.
Think this has massive potential.
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Sept 28, 2011 11:37:19 GMT -5
Post by manualex on Sept 28, 2011 11:37:19 GMT -5
It had a massive potential but whenever they started to ask for facebooks accounts they have started to dig a hole for their grave. I use Grooveshark miles better and you dont need to be in the Us/have a facebook account  |
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Sept 28, 2011 18:51:25 GMT -5
Post by matt on Sept 28, 2011 18:51:25 GMT -5
Can you explain to me what Spotify really is? It's been around for a while but I honestly have no idea what it's about!!
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Sept 29, 2011 6:04:11 GMT -5
Post by Swarfiga on Sept 29, 2011 6:04:11 GMT -5
Can you explain to me what Spotify really is? It's been around for a while but I honestly have no idea what it's about!! You stream music for free from there own media player/program or whatever you will call it. Which you can download from there website. But you can only listen to one specific song 5 times if you have the Free version. But if you pay 4,90£/month (or 9,90, then you can have Spotify in your Iphone or Android) you can listen how much you want. I just assume Spotify is available in the UK. I live in Sweden, and Spotify is an invention of some swedish guys. It's been out here for two years I think. My english isn't the best, but I hope you got some clarity about what Spotify is. |
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Sept 29, 2011 6:28:29 GMT -5
Post by Shockmaster on Sept 29, 2011 6:28:29 GMT -5
I can't work out how to use it?
How do I get on their database, mine only shows up my Hard Drive
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Sept 29, 2011 11:52:08 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 29, 2011 11:52:08 GMT -5
It had a massive potential but whenever they started to ask for facebooks accounts they have started to dig a hole for their grave. I use Grooveshark miles better and you dont need to be in the Us/have a facebook account Disagree. I think the facebook aspect is great. It feels under developed, but the template is now in place. You can share songs on the interface or on facebook. It publishes songs you're listening to on the new facebook stream sidebar, so you can see what your friends are listening to (and click to hear it if you feel inclined). Further updates will see what the true potential of this is, but the idea is awesome. Facebook is starting to revolutionize things. I was starting to feel like I was getting a bit too old for Facebook, but I'm glad I'm persevering with it. It's going to take over the internet at this rate. The only thing is that to get rid of the annoying ads on Spotify, you have to pay. Which is stupid. Facebook and the like need to remain free to work. I'm not paying to share music, so they better keep it free. |
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Sept 29, 2011 11:53:52 GMT -5
Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 29, 2011 11:53:52 GMT -5
Reminds me of a more sophisticated Ping (iTunes). Which I signed up for, but never ever use.
While I prefer iTunes to manage my songs, and still use it over Spotify, iTunes is going to need to adapt because Spotify has a chance, with a better and more friendly user interface, to replace iTunes. Just saying.
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Post by Lundblad on Oct 2, 2011 3:01:33 GMT -5
Used it since late 2008 Although I haven't used it so much since they limited the ad-financed service. But I will start paying for it soon, probably. |
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Oct 2, 2011 11:40:59 GMT -5
Post by Lundblad on Oct 2, 2011 11:40:59 GMT -5
Btw, you're not sharing anything on Spotify. You're paying to stream the copyrighted music down to your computer, and the creators get royalties. There's no way it could work without you paying for it.
Overall, there is a trend on the internet, that there will be less opportunities for "free riding". For example when it comes to newspapers. A couple of years ago, all newspapers were making big losses on their online services, but with more "pay-to-play" content that will also change. The idea that you could make money on anything online, just by having a large audience, is quite dead.
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Post by steve378 on Oct 3, 2011 3:19:06 GMT -5
great for the listener, shit for the artists.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2011 6:37:32 GMT -5
great for the listener, shit for the artists. yes, I've read reports of many thousands of plays from artists generating very very small amounts, like 20k plays earning £15 or something. Many smaller labels won't even put their material on it. it is owned by the big four major labels too. |
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Oct 3, 2011 17:28:36 GMT -5
Post by Lundblad on Oct 3, 2011 17:28:36 GMT -5
From what I read two years ago, Spotify was actually better for the artist (revenue per play) than radio. And since then Spotify's revenue has increased largely.
Today, apparently Spotify is the largest revenue source for Swedish artists.
Still, I guess that record companies eat up a big share of the possible revenue for the artists. The question is how long record companies actually will be around - the modern production and distribution methods doesn't really require them in their classic form.
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Oct 3, 2011 17:29:08 GMT -5
Post by Lundblad on Oct 3, 2011 17:29:08 GMT -5
Double post
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Post by steve378 on Oct 4, 2011 5:14:22 GMT -5
From what I read two years ago, Spotify was actually better for the artist (revenue per play) than radio. And since then Spotify's revenue has increased largely. Today, apparently Spotify is the largest revenue source for Swedish artists. Still, I guess that record companies eat up a big share of the possible revenue for the artists. The question is how long record companies actually will be around - the modern production and distribution methods doesn't really require them in their classic form. Maybe so, the big lure of siging to major is they provide the marketing, publishing, contacts, distribution, image consulting, promotion and all the infratsructure already in place. Yeah, everyone else can do all that nowadyas, but its damn hard work and requires a lot of trial an error, time and effort. The labels refuse to divulge the deals they have with spotify. I have just written a bit of a blog post on my bands website concerning spotify, here.. www.littlevegaslies.com/blog.cfm?feature=1330132&postid=1357553 |
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Oct 4, 2011 17:24:32 GMT -5
Post by Lundblad on Oct 4, 2011 17:24:32 GMT -5
Won't bands in the future use specialists for the things you mention? Marketing consultants, stand-alone promoters etc.
A couple of unorganized thoughts on your blog post:
I appreciate the hard work and commitment you have to commit in a position like your band's.
It's an interesting example with the amount of listens that you need to get to earn sufficient money from Spotify listens. But bear in mind: I bought BHN used for the equivalent of 10USD. And despite the fact that I listened to it probably 750+ times, Oasis won't get anything more from that. And with the new technique, people have the possibility also to listen to music on a scale unseen before. And as illegal ways of listening gets replaced with legal, there will be legal listening on a scale we haven't seen before. People get Spotify in their iPhones (19% here, apparently), and listen to music wherever they are. Imagine for example if we in a couple of years' time will see Spotify used in 40% of US iPhones. What a huge possibility of revenue for the music industry and creators!
If you bought a CD in the pre-internet world: How many times would you listen to it on average? 200? That gives the band 6EUR in your Spotify example? Lower than what you would earn if you sell a CD, probably. But perhaps that's just something that you have to accept in "the new world" with the increased competition that it brings.
Another aspect with new technique: It bridges a gap between "insiders" and "outsiders" among artists. Since you don't need a record contract to be heard anymore, the competition for signed artists will of course be tougher. Especially if you are in a position where you're not one of the bigger bands.
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Post by steve378 on Oct 5, 2011 3:57:20 GMT -5
Won't bands in the future use specialists for the things you mention? Marketing consultants, stand-alone promoters etc. Another aspect with new technique: It bridges a gap between "insiders" and "outsiders" among artists. Since you don't need a record contract to be heard anymore, the competition for signed artists will of course be tougher. Especially if you are in a position where you're not one of the bigger bands. Coming from a fairly new unsigned band, I'm looking at it from a different perspective. Yes bands will need those things, but they are so expensive, my fear is that there are loads of fantastic bands out there beavering away with great songs, but just don't have the money to promote themselves. Yes, anyone can put songs on spotify, iTunes etc, but unless people know its there, it will get left unlistened to. New bands are becoming far and between, and i think everyone who visits this site especially, will agree that guitar bands are struggling lately, and are out of favour with the charts etc. Another beef i have with spotify is that they negotiate fees individually once an artist gets to a certain level (or are signed to one of the 4 majors thats spotify is basically run by). So the big acts will make more money, not just because of more plays, but they have bigger fees. Whereas smaller acts have no choice but join in at whatever rate Spotify decides. |
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Oct 5, 2011 18:56:31 GMT -5
Post by DCUnited on Oct 5, 2011 18:56:31 GMT -5
Spotify is like Rhapsody only much less private. Connecting everything thru Facebook kind of freaks me out. Also does not work with regular mp3 players which i still use
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Post by globe on Oct 6, 2011 7:08:14 GMT -5
Facebook is starting to revolutionize things. Aye, like passing on all your personal data to who they feel like. |
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