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Post by jilliam on Sept 6, 2011 18:33:11 GMT -5
After listening to Oasis for almost 20yrs I've grown accustomed to hearing Liam sing most of the songs and Noel doing vocals on a great amount of the Bsides. Listening to all these new Noel songs I catch myself at times thinking they're Bsides of an upcoming Oasis album...only to realise this is actually an entire album with Noel doing vocals. Not hating at all, just something to get used to. Dum-dee-dum.
Mods feel free to play pen this if you like.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 6, 2011 19:03:49 GMT -5
when i thought of Oasis i thought of awesome hooks, great melodies and... Liam's voice.
btw, why would they playpen this? anyways...
the reason why i loved that band so much was because you'd get a bunch of great rocking songs and then Noel would hit you with a great ballad or something epic like The Masterplan or HTWA. It was the perfect mix imo. Nothing could ever touch that because to me, Oasis was perfection. DOYS was a boring album but whatever... not counting that one, i loved Oasis.
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Post by Sternumman on Sept 6, 2011 19:09:29 GMT -5
DOYS was a boring album but whatever... not counting that one, i loved Oasis. the second half wasnt as good as the first but i wouldnt call the album boring. |
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Post by jilliam on Sept 6, 2011 19:13:48 GMT -5
why would they playpen this? bc this is posted in Noels section and the amount of fanboys wont stand for ANYONE saying Noels songs sounding (whether it be in a good or bad way) like Bsides...I can hear the glass bottles clinking getting ready to be flung at me as molotov-cocktails... |
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Post by reddavid on Sept 6, 2011 19:26:53 GMT -5
why would they playpen this? bc this is posted in Noels section and the amount of fanboys wont stand for ANYONE saying Noels songs sounding (whether it be in a good or bad way) like Bsides...I can hear the glass bottles clinking getting ready to be flung at me as molotov-cocktails... Can't say I'd blame them, really. |
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Post by Level 03 on Sept 6, 2011 19:39:18 GMT -5
Damn... Quality B-sides....
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 6, 2011 20:08:17 GMT -5
DOYS was a boring album but whatever... not counting that one, i loved Oasis. the second half wasnt as good as the first but i wouldnt call the album boring. The first half of the album was better then the second, yes, but it's not like the first 6 songs were all that great. BIU is good but nothing special, The TUrning i actually like a lot but it's not like i go out of my way to listen to it. Imo it's an ok song that Liam elevates to "very good" with his vocals. Waiting For the Rapture is great, i really like that song, Noel does a great job singing that. TSOTL is cool but let's face it, they lyrics are shit. IOT is a great little tune one of the best of the album and i'll stop there because what follows is a total mess. That's the first half of the album. If you'd like, we could include HHL but that would only make things worse. Falling Down is not my cup of tea. As boring as it gets for me. TBWTL is meh... and Soldier On is ok. So, to summarize. What save the album imo are WFTR, IOT and to a lesser extent TSOTL. 2 very good songs and a couple of "alright" songs don't make a good album. |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 6, 2011 20:13:08 GMT -5
why would they playpen this? bc this is posted in Noels section and the amount of fanboys wont stand for ANYONE saying Noels songs sounding (whether it be in a good or bad way) like Bsides...I can hear the glass bottles clinking getting ready to be flung at me as molotov-cocktails... You could make the argument that just about all the Oasis songs after BHN would have been b-sides if they had been made during the DM-BHN era. So technically Oasis in general were making b-sides for the rest of their of careers. I'm pretty sure you didn't mean to say that, but I get what point you're making. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Sept 7, 2011 1:34:41 GMT -5
Oasis B-sides were always damn fine quality, so it's not really a bad thing. I get what you mean, Liams voice & the rockers & electric guitars will be missed!
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Post by kenneth on Sept 7, 2011 3:40:00 GMT -5
I wouldn't take offence by that statement to Jilliam there. As we know, many Oasis b-side are far supperior to some of their a-sides. How many bands can you say that about?
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Post by crownie on Sept 7, 2011 4:08:26 GMT -5
why would they playpen this? bc this is posted in Noels section and the amount of fanboys wont stand for ANYONE saying Noels songs sounding (whether it be in a good or bad way) like Bsides...I can hear the glass bottles clinking getting ready to be flung at me as molotov-cocktails... well you do sound like a bitch |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 4:35:59 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is not Oasis. Comparing them is pointless
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 7, 2011 6:40:45 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds is not Oasis. Comparing them is pointless This, and the sooner people realise this the better. |
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Post by spaneli on Sept 7, 2011 7:42:27 GMT -5
bc this is posted in Noels section and the amount of fanboys wont stand for ANYONE saying Noels songs sounding (whether it be in a good or bad way) like Bsides...I can hear the glass bottles clinking getting ready to be flung at me as molotov-cocktails... well you do sound like a bitch   |
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Post by Praetor on Sept 7, 2011 7:44:47 GMT -5
Not a bad thing. Carry Us All, Angel Child, Masterplan, Flashbax, Pass Me Down The Wine, Underneath the Sky, Whatever, etc...
I'll take Oasis b-sides aaaaaaaaaaall day.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 7, 2011 9:50:42 GMT -5
Of course Noels new songs sound like Oasis b-sides, he wrote 97 percent of them ??
Were people expecting him to turn into George Michael over night?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2011 12:08:27 GMT -5
Old Oasis b-sides are better than the last two Oasis albums.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Sept 7, 2011 12:52:34 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean... It's a shame that there's that state of mind for a lot of fans that if it's Noel singing then it's somewhat "second rate" Oasis because of many past demos, but for me it was always hard to realize that not only Liam's voice made up Oasis, as well. I mean, Noel made Don't Look Back In Anger... I truly believe that it wouldn't of been as popular as it was if Liam would've sang it. So I try not to have that mentality, "Oh, I wonder what Liam would sound like on this?", because that's not an option anymore. It's just Noel now...
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 7, 2011 19:48:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean... It's a shame that there's that state of mind for a lot of fans that if it's Noel singing then it's somewhat "second rate" Oasis because of many past demos, but for me it was always hard to realize that not only Liam's voice made up Oasis, as well. I mean, Noel made Don't Look Back In Anger... I truly believe that it wouldn't of been as popular as it was if Liam would've sang it. So I try not to have that mentality, "Oh, I wonder what Liam would sound like on this?", because that's not an option anymore. It's just Noel now... i don't believe it's "second rate" per se, but it's just so frustrating.... one can't help to wonder what it'd sound like if it was Liam singing some of the good Noel tunes(IIHAG and TGR), the other two idk... they're not that good to begin with so.. |
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Post by seanzie on Sept 8, 2011 1:06:02 GMT -5
I don't know if you're implying that they're second rate, but if you are, I disagree with that sentiment. I think that the three songs we've heard so far are all better than anything Beady Eye put out with the exception being the cover of Blue Moon they did.
AKA...WAL is different than anything Noel did with Oasis. DOYAM smacks of TIOBI, and IIHAG is a classic Noel power-ballad. Not really b-side-like in any way, to my ears at least.
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Post by AKA... Frozen Eggroll on Sept 8, 2011 15:14:04 GMT -5
I don't know if you're implying that they're second rate, but if you are, I disagree with that sentiment. I think that the three songs we've heard so far are all better than anything Beady Eye put out with the exception being the cover of Blue Moon they did. AKA...WAL is different than anything Noel did with Oasis. DOYAM smacks of TIOBI, and IIHAG is a classic Noel power-ballad. Not really b-side-like in any way, to my ears at least. No, I agree that High Flying Birds sounds a lot better than Beady Eye, without question. I just think that Noel's voice had been considered the "echo," if you will, while in Oasis, and for that reason, many who are familiar with the old Oasis demos may think HFB sounds like just that... demos. Hopefully, people don't base their judgment that way though. I mean, personally, I don't think the songs sound like demos at all. If anything, Noel sounds better than Liam these days, and so Noel is the best way to hear these tunes. |
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Post by seanzie on Sept 9, 2011 9:24:08 GMT -5
^Ah okay. I see what you mean. I agree with what you're saying then.
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Post by Praetor on Sept 9, 2011 10:46:32 GMT -5
TGR would be better if Liam was on it, agreed there. IIHAG is a classic Noel song though.
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Post by importantlyidle on Sept 9, 2011 17:40:47 GMT -5
the second half wasnt as good as the first but i wouldnt call the album boring. The first half of the album was better then the second, yes, but it's not like the first 6 songs were all that great. BIU is good but nothing special, The TUrning i actually like a lot but it's not like i go out of my way to listen to it. Imo it's an ok song that Liam elevates to "very good" with his vocals. Waiting For the Rapture is great, i really like that song, Noel does a great job singing that. TSOTL is cool but let's face it, they lyrics are shit. IOT is a great little tune one of the best of the album and i'll stop there because what follows is a total mess. That's the first half of the album. If you'd like, we could include HHL but that would only make things worse. Falling Down is not my cup of tea. As boring as it gets for me. TBWTL is meh... and Soldier On is ok. So, to summarize. What save the album imo are WFTR, IOT and to a lesser extent TSOTL. 2 very good songs and a couple of "alright" songs don't make a good album. I get your point to a degree (sorry for not deleting the other 2 posts in the quote, thought i'd mess it all up  ) but I find DOYS less boring than SOTSOG, HC and DBTT (i'm comparing to these because the first 3 are far superior to anything post 2000) HC is the worst album by a mile, DBTT lacks something for me, there is some good songs on it but it is a bit too soft in parts, even SOTSOG and HC had something in terms of the Oasis sound about them (hope you get me here) DOYS was probably the most daring album since BHN as far as Oasis could go. The problem is the last 6 songs were wrong (bring in BWTB, IBIA, LDSMD (Liam version if need be as I think that was better than the Noel one) and have TBWTL sound more like they played live and it would have been a far better album. Not having a dig if you don't like it, that's personal choice just as mine is. I see DOYS a good part more interesting than the previous 3 albums though because of some of the sessions we have, how we could change it, it's sound in general. |
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Post by jilliam on Sept 9, 2011 18:29:46 GMT -5
bc this is posted in Noels section and the amount of fanboys wont stand for ANYONE saying Noels songs sounding (whether it be in a good or bad way) like Bsides...I can hear the glass bottles clinking getting ready to be flung at me as molotov-cocktails... well you do sound like a bitch I see my reputation preceives me...  |
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