exit1
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Post by exit1 on Sept 2, 2011 21:14:49 GMT -5
Every cloud has a silver lining , so , we could say that oasis split was the best decision made, due to the quality of NOEL`S songs of his forthcoming solo album in comparison with BEADY EYE.
On the other hand if they could never had fight each other,by this time, we could have had a new oasis album with mixed songs between noel, liam ,andy and gem, and obviously and IMO it could never have been better that NOEL `s high flying birds
i.e: 1. millonarie. 2. the roller 3. bullet in a bubble. 4.the beats goes on. 5. the death of you and me . 6. if a had a gun 7. record machine. 8. wigwam. 9. three ring circus 10.come on it`s alright (every member of the band, crew,and producers says its awesome)
even though, we have listened the rest of the album yet.... 3 songs and 3 more demos (EOTR,STC,RM) are enough to make a previous GOOD diagnostic.
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Post by LlAM on Sept 3, 2011 0:30:25 GMT -5
I have a feeling that when Noels album is out, there'll only be space for one or two BE tracks on a fantasy Beady Birds album.
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Post by mossy on Sept 3, 2011 2:17:29 GMT -5
Although we've heard demos and snippets, we've still got 7 new songs to hear properly all the way through, so I don't think we can say a High Flying Eye album would be better yet.
As above, on an Oasis album there'd be 4 BDI songs at most.
The main consideration is, would the Noel tunes sound better with Liam vox..?
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Post by KeepOnNoeling on Sept 3, 2011 2:42:14 GMT -5
I think it was the best decision. Judging the by the last album, Oasis seemed tired creatively. Saying that, they were still fantastic live.
I think the split gave both Noel and Beady Eye a renewed lease of life. It also meant that, because they were no longer under the constraints of Oasis, that they could both do what they wanted.
It also means that we got twice as much music.
Although Beady Eye aren't great, everyone from Oasis seems to be enjoying themselves more now.
Maybe doing this for a while will chill them all out.
I think, somewhere down the line, they'll reform for at least some live gigs.
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Post by shakermaicher on Sept 3, 2011 4:23:29 GMT -5
If ever song on Noels album isnt better than millionaire, bullet in a bubble, the beat goes on and wigwam I'm going to be very disappointed.
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indiekiduk3
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Post by indiekiduk3 on Sept 3, 2011 4:35:11 GMT -5
Every BDI song is shit, you can't even make out the words, and live Liam is terrible singing them. Reminds me of all that Andy Bell ass Ride bullshit. Liam has made a major mistake, should have stuck with Noel and not fucked him off. Every Noel track we have heard has been stunning, especially IIHAG.
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 3, 2011 4:42:41 GMT -5
It was the time for the Gallaghers to take their own way 2 years ago. Just a shame the way they had to split.
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Post by GIMH on Sept 3, 2011 4:49:08 GMT -5
indiekiduk3 - it was Noel who fucked Liam off so your post is flawed
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 4:53:48 GMT -5
since the split The Morning Son & The Death Of You & Me have become 2 of my favourite all time songs, if they stayed together i may never of heard them, so for me im sort of glad it happened..
my concern always was that if the relationship between Liam & Noel was at an all time low and they stayed together, the 8th album might have been a complete disaster and that would be horrible.
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Post by MacaRonic on Sept 3, 2011 5:54:56 GMT -5
Just make a Double album. Two discs, 11 songs each and a bonus disc. Four Letter Word Beatles And Stones The Death Of You And Me In The Bubble With A Bullet Millionaire Dream On If I Had A Gun... The Roller Bring The Light Kill For A Dream Stop The Clocks ----- Everybody's On The Run Wind Up Dream For Anyone AKA...What A Life Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks Wigwam Three Ring Circus Record Machine (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach The Beat Goes On The Morning Son (Bonus Disc) ----- Sons Of The Stage Standing On The Edge Of The Noise Two Of A Kind The Good Rebel AKA...Broken Arrow A Simple Game Of Genius World Outside My Room Nuts, I know, but it could work
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Sept 3, 2011 5:58:37 GMT -5
The idea of Bring the light on an Oasis album makes me vomit, sorry Liam, if you're reading: Sorry, I still love The Morning Son and Wigwam though
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Sept 3, 2011 6:01:13 GMT -5
I'm glad because it looks like Noel's album is the best Gallagher related album we've had since 1995. We wouldn't have gotten that with oasis because LAG would have been allowed write songs for it.
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Post by Praetor on Sept 3, 2011 6:11:49 GMT -5
In a Bubble With a Bullet is, imo, the only good song BDI has put out. Some are okay...but not good.
We still have a few B-Sides from Noel too.
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sidewindervj
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Post by sidewindervj on Sept 4, 2011 1:03:39 GMT -5
If Oasis were together and coming out with a new album I have a hard time deciding it would be a mix of all these songs. There is no way Noel would put a song like "Kill for a Dream" without the proper tweaks it needs, though it is one of my favorites on DG,SS. I think he might have left Morning Son be and such, but it would have Noel's touch to it. That, and there would only be a few spots. Seriously, with IIHAG, EOTR, AKA-WAL, TDOYAM, STC, RM, (and the greats we haven't heard), where do you fit the Liam and Gem songs? And who the fuck is 'Andy Bell'?
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Post by MacaRonic on Sept 4, 2011 4:54:57 GMT -5
And who the fuck is 'Andy Bell'? The guy who wrote the best rock 'n' roll song this year
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Post by deasy on Sept 4, 2011 5:23:10 GMT -5
And who the fuck is 'Andy Bell'? The guy who wrote the best rock 'n' roll song this year Andy Bell wrote *insert any of about 100+ tracks from this year by bands other than Beady Eye*? ;D
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Post by MacaRonic on Sept 4, 2011 5:26:38 GMT -5
Naaah
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Post by Silence Dogood on Sept 4, 2011 6:59:31 GMT -5
4LW IS one of the best rock songs of the year. there's no sense in trying to deny that. Noel's album wont be rock, it's gonna be pop and that's fine. No one should be offended because it is what it is. there's nothing wrong with that.
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Post by ctmazin on Sept 4, 2011 8:17:30 GMT -5
It was time for the boys to go their separate ways, for several reasons.
Noel needed a kick in the ass. He's been content to contribute 5-6 songs to each album for the last 10 years, usually 2-3 great ones, 1-2 good ones, and 1-2 weak ones. He's capable of so much more, and it looks like he will fulfill that promise.
It had gotten to the point that Liam's voice was a negative during live shows. Noel's Stop The Clocks shows were the nest live Oasis, by far of the last 6-7 years.
The other guys have embracd greater responsibility that would not have in Oasis. Not a huge fan of DGSS, but it far, far better than the dross that A, G and Liam contributed to DOYS. Plus, Liam has decided to take better care of his voice, take more responsibility, which is a positive thing....
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Post by TheShakermaker on Sept 4, 2011 15:26:46 GMT -5
4LW IS one of the best rock songs of the year. there's no sense in trying to deny that. Noel's album wont be rock, it's gonna be pop and that's fine. No one should be offended because it is what it is. there's nothing wrong with that. Disagree entirely. The sound and instrumentation might be rock, but its not a stand out track in any way. Had it not been beady eye, most of us probably wouldnt have heard it, and had we, it would have been forgotten very fast. To me, it seems like beady eye has no direction. Liam writes songs randomly. Unfortunately none of them are exciting in a way songbird, born on a different cloud, the meaning of soul or soldier on was. Ok, the morning son and wigwam are good songs, maybe in the same category, but Liam got too many songs on the album, because he's Liam. Gem writes songs that are good, and albumworthy like the roller, he just writes too few. Three ring circus would at best have been a b side for oasis, and thats even kind. Andy writes country songs, seems like he's afraid of chorusses. All in all, it's just not a whole album, like oasis albums have been. Noel knows how to put an album together, and would, probably did, exclude good songs because they dont fit with the album. Beady eye dont have quality enough to exclude any songs. For that reason an album made up of both groups songs would never work.
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Post by barnafin95 on Sept 4, 2011 15:38:40 GMT -5
So far I would guess only Four Letter Word, In the Bubble With a Bullet and Sons Of The Stage would make the cut for an Oasis album, although I think even they would have to be changed. I reckon that's actually the key difference between Beady Eye and Oasis: quality control. For example, Noel said recently that Millionaire was gonna be on DOYS but he decided against it because he hated the line "you just need to know yourself". If Four Letter Word had been released with input from Noel, I bet lines like "feels like you've blown a 50 amp fuse" wouldn't have made the grade, and the ending for ITBWAB would need to be changed as it lets the song down. And as excellent as SOTS is, Noel's said he wouldn't put any covers on an album, so any High Flying Eye album would probably have a minimal contribution from Liam and co unless they'd spent a bit more time and effort on their songs
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