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Post by eva on Aug 30, 2011 11:44:19 GMT -5
Liam: "I didn't like doing it" Beady Eye singer opens up about the legal case against his brother * 30/08/2011 * Sinead Garvan Beady Eye Liam Gallagher says he is sad about suing his brother Noel over his claims he was too hung over to perform at the V Festival in 2009 but he had no choice: " Listen, that had to happen, I don't take lightly to be called a fraud." " I feel sad but I feel a lot sadder that there are people walking around thinking that I wouldn't get out of bed cos I had a few beers" he told 6 Music. Noel has since apologised for saying Liam wasn't ill and the legal case has been dropped: "I've called the dogs off a little bit but there still a few things that need to be cleared up, I didn't like doing it and it hurts a lot of people around it but it had to be done" the Beady Eye singer explained. As for Beady Eye, they have just announced a number of UK tour dates in November. Liam says they will take Christmas off and dive straight into the next record: "February or the end of January we will be in (the studio) doing our album. "We've got enough material for another record and that is what we shall do, whether people like it or not." Beady Eye haven't included any Oasis songs in their sets so far because they want to establish the band in it's own right but that doesn't mean they won't in the future: "Maybe down the line, in the third album we might throw some in there just for the crack." As for his brother Noel's solo album, which consists of a lot of old material written when Oasis were still together, what does Liam make of it? "I have sung on half of them, it was a lot better when I was singing on them but I am sure people will like the soft approach." Listen below to the full interview www.bbc.co.uk/6music/news/20110830_liambeady.shtml
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 30, 2011 11:51:07 GMT -5
thanks I wonder what songs from Noel's album Liam already sung on. I can definitely hear him singing If I Had A Gun..
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Post by GIMH on Aug 30, 2011 11:58:57 GMT -5
Well we know he sang on Stop the Clocks and Record Machine. After that it's guesswork I suppose, all I can hear in my head when I listen to The Good Rebel is Liam though. He would fucking dominate that song.
Btw I know some won't agree but I've no doubt that the Noel album would sound better with Liam singing the bulk of it. It is literally my only apprehension about the album.
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 30, 2011 12:10:04 GMT -5
Btw I know some won't agree but I've no doubt that the Noel album would sound better with Liam singing the bulk of it. It is literally my only apprehension about the album. In the end, that's what made Oasis: Liam singing the tunes Noel wrote, and 1 + 1 became more than 2
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Post by gdforever on Aug 30, 2011 13:32:02 GMT -5
What is with Liam and this persecution complex of his?
"We've got enough material for another record and that is what we shall do, whether people like it or not."
Call off the fricking pity party and really graft like Noel is grafting.
I don't know what else to say except that Liam sounds disheartened and is growing more bitter. That was not a fun interview. Where has the fun lightheartedness of BDI gone. They had been quite happy when they first came out.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 30, 2011 13:41:28 GMT -5
It probably has a lot to do with the questions asked him? I mean i doubt thats the whole thing.
You can't say Liam and co and grafting, they've been touring quite a bit and are going up until xmas and then a month later they want to go to work again.
For a man who has been vilified in the press here as much as Liam its not hard to understand a little defensiveness.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 30, 2011 14:03:34 GMT -5
I've recently looked over that The Roller thread. Their media push for that single was pitiful...and none of the rest have been any better. I think they COULD have done better. TDOYAM isn't a head and shoulder above The Roller. Did it really musically deserve to be more than twice as high on the charts...probably not. But in terms of effort, it really did
You saw what Noel did for TDOYAM. THAT was grafting. Promo every morning, rehearsal every night, interviews airing or being printed almost daily. You honestly think that if Liam had reached out he couldn't have gotten on more radio shows? That is what Noel is doing. He is taking the normal interest in him and converting it into interest about his project. Sure it got uncomfortable @ times...but a couple quips and he generally skipped past the awkardness of a discussion about Liam and onto something else.
For all BDI saying that that they aren't looking to trade on the Oasis connection. If they had been a new band, without a connection to Oasis, do you honestly think with their level of success they would have been playing second on the bill @ the festivals they have been playing @?
Nah. No way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 14:05:26 GMT -5
i hate these interviews when it keeps cutting into song every minute!
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Post by ponydigger9 on Aug 30, 2011 14:07:40 GMT -5
What is with Liam and this persecution complex of his? "We've got enough material for another record and that is what we shall do, whether people like it or not." Call off the fricking pity party and really graft like Noel is grafting. I don't know what else to say except that Liam sounds disheartened and is growing more bitter. That was not a fun interview. Where has the fun lightheartedness of BDI gone. They had been quite happy when they first came out. Noel coming out of his shell and unearthing these songs, many of which Liam had sang on, probably has helped that. Along with the "false claims" stated by Noel, the lawsuit, the seemingly bigger hype the Noel is generating than Beady Eye generated. It's irritating him, no doubt. There's obviously a part of him that wants to beat out, or at least be at par with Noel's record.
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 30, 2011 14:07:50 GMT -5
I've recently looked over that The Roller thread. Their media push for that single was pitiful...and none of the rest have been any better. I think they COULD have done better. TDOYAM isn't a head and shoulder above The Roller. Did it really musically deserve to be more than twice as high on the charts...probably not. But in terms of effort, it really did Beady Eye have done loads of interviews in the beginning. The succes of both Beady Eye and Noel solo was already decided before we heard a single note of both tbf.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2011 14:08:57 GMT -5
I've recently looked over that The Roller thread. Their media push for that single was pitiful...and none of the rest have been any better. I think they COULD have done better. TDOYAM isn't a head and shoulder above The Roller. Did it really musically deserve to be more than twice as high on the charts...probably not. But in terms of effort, it really did Beady Eye have done loads of interviews in the beginning. The succes of both Beady Eye and Noel solo was already decided before we heard a single note of both tbf. THIS!
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Post by gdforever on Aug 30, 2011 14:12:53 GMT -5
I've recently looked over that The Roller thread. Their media push for that single was pitiful...and none of the rest have been any better. I think they COULD have done better. TDOYAM isn't a head and shoulder above The Roller. Did it really musically deserve to be more than twice as high on the charts...probably not. But in terms of effort, it really did Beady Eye have done loads of interviews in the beginning. The succes of both Beady Eye and Noel solo was already decided before we heard a single note of both tbf. They didn't do that many comparatively. Go look @ The Roller Midweek Chart thread. It's just full of a bunch of us going on about lack of promo coordinated with the single, etc. Making excuses about how the big single must be the next one since they weren't making a big effort with The Roller. No one thought that Noel had slouched on promo. In fact people were impressed with the number of interviews that aired in the weeks leading up to the single. I think that Noel always had a leg up between experience and general quality. But BDI didn't do themselves any favors.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 30, 2011 14:30:46 GMT -5
I've recently looked over that The Roller thread. Their media push for that single was pitiful...and none of the rest have been any better. I think they COULD have done better. TDOYAM isn't a head and shoulder above The Roller. Did it really musically deserve to be more than twice as high on the charts...probably not. But in terms of effort, it really did You saw what Noel did for TDOYAM. THAT was grafting. Promo every morning, rehearsal every night, interviews airing or being printed almost daily. You honestly think that if Liam had reached out he couldn't have gotten on more radio shows? That is what Noel is doing. He is taking the normal interest in him and converting it into interest about his project. Sure it got uncomfortable @ times...but a couple quips and he generally skipped past the awkardness of a discussion about Liam and onto something else. For all BDI saying that that they aren't looking to trade on the Oasis connection. If they had been a new band, without a connection to Oasis, do you honestly think with their level of success they would have been playing second on the bill @ the festivals they have been playing @? Nah. No way. I don't think the media are as interested in BDI, if promo was as easy as 'reaching out' i'm sure a lot of artists would have done more of it. Do they not have the same management? More people are more interested in Noel, they want him on their show's and while there is still interest in Liam its not nearly as high. In print? Noel's articles with the widest reach have been supplied by his mate at the sun tbf.
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Post by GIMH on Aug 30, 2011 14:53:02 GMT -5
What is with Liam and this persecution complex of his? "We've got enough material for another record and that is what we shall do, whether people like it or not." Call off the fricking pity party and really graft like Noel is grafting. I don't know what else to say except that Liam sounds disheartened and is growing more bitter. That was not a fun interview. Where has the fun lightheartedness of BDI gone. They had been quite happy when they first came out. Hmm I reckon that's the sort of quote Liam has always said. I've heard so many interviews where he's said he doesn't care about the people who don't like it. Also they got panned on twitter after Reading apparently and he'll have read some of that and be responding to it. There were plenty of 'Beady Eye shouldn't bother' posts.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 30, 2011 20:25:43 GMT -5
But why even give them a looking. He has always had haters. He shouldn't start acknowledging them now.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 30, 2011 20:47:24 GMT -5
I've recently looked over that The Roller thread. Their media push for that single was pitiful...and none of the rest have been any better. I think they COULD have done better. TDOYAM isn't a head and shoulder above The Roller. Did it really musically deserve to be more than twice as high on the charts...probably not. But in terms of effort, it really did You saw what Noel did for TDOYAM. THAT was grafting. Promo every morning, rehearsal every night, interviews airing or being printed almost daily. You honestly think that if Liam had reached out he couldn't have gotten on more radio shows? That is what Noel is doing. He is taking the normal interest in him and converting it into interest about his project. Sure it got uncomfortable @ times...but a couple quips and he generally skipped past the awkardness of a discussion about Liam and onto something else. For all BDI saying that that they aren't looking to trade on the Oasis connection. If they had been a new band, without a connection to Oasis, do you honestly think with their level of success they would have been playing second on the bill @ the festivals they have been playing @? Nah. No way. I don't think the media are as interested in BDI, if promo was as easy as 'reaching out' i'm sure a lot of artists would have done more of it. Do they not have the same management? More people are more interested in Noel, they want him on their show's and while there is still interest in Liam its not nearly as high. In print? Noel's articles with the widest reach have been supplied by his mate at the sun tbf. Noel has done the MOJO editorship and a couple of RS interviews. The obvious NME cover. Q. And all of them will certainly be repeated in a couple months, I'll bet. And I do think that Noel has made more of an effort to get on radio and more importantly he is wrangling invitations back. Building and exploiting relationships. But I doubt that Liam really interested in creating those relationships. Do you think he is creating a group of friendly DJ's that he can nudge for the next record...probably not. Not every artist is a Gallagher. Liam is a big catch for an interview still, IMO. He is as iconic if not more iconic than Noel and has actually not been interviewed as much. Both Gallaghers are acknowledged good interviews. If he had made his interest known do you think he couldn't have gotten on more shows. I think he could have. They didn't give a radio station the chance to premier any of their tunes. That's a great way to build some promo and foster relationships. They posted BTL direct on internet. FLW via NME.com (like the NME changed their coverage or wouldn't have covered BDI anyways) and The Roller premiered on Channel 4. Contrast that with Noel. Jo Whiley got an exclusive for TDOYAM. Zane Lowe got TGR exclusive. KROC got the IIHAG exclusive. Jo and Zane @ least probably would have jumped @ the chance to debut something from someone ex-Oasis. Exclusives are good for the reps of shows as well.
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Post by GIMH on Aug 30, 2011 23:54:43 GMT -5
But why even give them a looking. He has always had haters. He shouldn't start acknowledging them now. But the thing is, he's always acknowledged them. Couple of examples of the top off my head, firstly when him and Noel did the Radio 1 Evening Session in 97 and he called out Jagger, Harrison etc. And on the Songbird DVD single him and Noel list the magazines that have slated them giving it the we don't give a shit because we're amazing routine. I don't think it's a persecution complex but it probably gets to Liam more now than when he was in oasis because he doesn't have a million sales and sold out stadia to back him up.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Aug 31, 2011 1:16:00 GMT -5
this is the thing with Noel's album. No matter how good it is(and for the record i am anticipating it to be VERY good), there will always be this thing where people ask themselves "how much better would it be with Liam on lead vocals?" . Like, imagine Liam singing IIHAG ? that shit would be fucking otherworldly. unfortunately that will never happen but hey, it is what it is.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 31, 2011 4:20:34 GMT -5
I don't think the media are as interested in BDI, if promo was as easy as 'reaching out' i'm sure a lot of artists would have done more of it. Do they not have the same management? More people are more interested in Noel, they want him on their show's and while there is still interest in Liam its not nearly as high. In print? Noel's articles with the widest reach have been supplied by his mate at the sun tbf. Noel has done the MOJO editorship and a couple of RS interviews. The obvious NME cover. Q. And all of them will certainly be repeated in a couple months, I'll bet. And I do think that Noel has made more of an effort to get on radio and more importantly he is wrangling invitations back. Building and exploiting relationships. But I doubt that Liam really interested in creating those relationships. Do you think he is creating a group of friendly DJ's that he can nudge for the next record...probably not. Not every artist is a Gallagher. Liam is a big catch for an interview still, IMO. He is as iconic if not more iconic than Noel and has actually not been interviewed as much. Both Gallaghers are acknowledged good interviews. If he had made his interest known do you think he couldn't have gotten on more shows. I think he could have. They didn't give a radio station the chance to premier any of their tunes. That's a great way to build some promo and foster relationships. They posted BTL direct on internet. FLW via NME.com (like the NME changed their coverage or wouldn't have covered BDI anyways) and The Roller premiered on Channel 4. Contrast that with Noel. Jo Whiley got an exclusive for TDOYAM. Zane Lowe got TGR exclusive. KROC got the IIHAG exclusive. Jo and Zane @ least probably would have jumped @ the chance to debut something from someone ex-Oasis. Exclusives are good for the reps of shows as well. Errr...the mojo editorship has to be offered to you I would think and RS have to want you in there. I'd say TR showing on channel 4 is bigger than Jo Whiley or Zane Lowe. But these people have to want to put them on. Well Liam is certainly friends with a few radio dj's all of which he has visited. He doesn't have the same contacts as Noel because Noel has done loads of promotion over the years. This is before you even get near their respective budgets for promotion I bet Beady Eye's are pitifully small comapared with Noel's. They've been doing interviews all round the world, touring all over the place at both big and little festivals to say they haven't grafted is just a lie. They have worked hard things just didn't happen exactly as they would have wanted..
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Post by Rolo on Aug 31, 2011 7:06:39 GMT -5
I don't get gdforever saying Liam didn't do much to promote their album and lead single, If I remember correctly there was basically a new interview with Liam every day around the time the album came out, they also had interviews with Mojo, Rolling Stone, Q, NME etc so I don't really get what you're getting at here.
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Post by ctmazin on Aug 31, 2011 9:37:17 GMT -5
Liam hasn't been a huge plus voice-wise for years. Since HC, the songs where his voice was crucial were tunes like TSOTL, Lyla, THT, BIU and TT maybe--hard rockers. And Noel hasn't written tunes like those for this album. Liam has struggled on a lot of the mid-tempo and slow stuff that he used to ace. So I think a lot of critics aren't going to say "where's Liam's voice", but rather, will be surprised at how good Noel sounds. If Noel had tried to fill the album full of rockers, it'd be a different story, but he has wisely stuck to his strengths.
IIHAG with Liam circa-1995 would have been awesome. IIHAG with Liam circa-today wouldn't be any better, unfortunately.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 31, 2011 15:40:04 GMT -5
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