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Post by matt on Aug 29, 2011 18:02:58 GMT -5
l.wbx.me/l/?p=1&instId=42cf3a88-262e-4e35-ad8c-2035d58941ad&token=aba2acd9eec3a047ab1b469d3708bf5eff1d45c80000013212ab67f2&u=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FQ0vLHGeThis guy from The Drums doesn't believe in bands making political messages in music, citing U2 and Coldplay as bands in doing so. Of course, many many more bands and artists do this, such as Bob Dylan, Rage Against The Machine, Muse, etc. I kind of see his point - it can seem a bit preachy and the concept is abused at times and, for me, nothing can compare with a tune that hits with every day emotions. But then again, we wouldn't have some of the brilliant tunes that have been heard over the years, most notably Bob Dylan. I have a love/hate relationship with this over the years, sometimes thinking artists do it to seek attention. What does everyone else think of politics and music?
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Post by supersonic1983 on Aug 29, 2011 18:24:23 GMT -5
I bet he loves a bit of Kate Nash, that lad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 0:19:06 GMT -5
as long as they are being written by informed people then i have no problem with it, you have to take each song on its own merrit
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Post by matt on Aug 31, 2011 15:35:27 GMT -5
as long as they are being written by informed people then i have no problem with it, you have to take each song on its own merrit True, but when you get ill informed doing it and listeners jumping on the bandwagon, then there is a problem.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2011 15:42:40 GMT -5
I don't mind it because inspiration comes from everywhere, but I do hate it when artists make it their personal persona to be the torch bearer of some movement or political cause. Let the music speak, you don't have to make awards speeches about it, or bring it up at every interview or web posting.
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Post by beadyeyeunofficial on Sept 3, 2011 6:37:08 GMT -5
I still cannot believe Noel tried to write a political song, and failed miserably, in Mucky Fingers.
I like political songs when the writer knows what they are talking about, like John Lennon, Reverend and the Makers, Mongrel, The Enemy, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2011 6:47:49 GMT -5
Eminem did this tune about his hate for George Bush..
"Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us Mosh pits outside the oval office Someone's tryina tell us something, Maybe this is God just sayin' we're responsible For this monster, this coward, That we have empowered"
although politics isnt of interest to me i thought this was quite a powerful song
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Post by deasy on Sept 3, 2011 6:48:34 GMT -5
I've no problem with it as long as it's not every song the band do.
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Sept 8, 2011 13:24:41 GMT -5
bono and coldplay whimper on and on about dribble! if they were really saying anything political they would have been assassinated a long time ago.
America and Britain are breezing in to small defenceless countries torturing and killing their inhabitants just so they can steal their oil and we have a generation of kids/musicians who's only concern is getting their hands on the latest smart phone.
meanwhile back at the ranch, private armies are being put in place, laws being changed to steal your freedome and your wealth robbed off you and handed over to billionaire bankers and nobody gets angry???
i wonder what John Lennon or Bill hicks would say about this disgusting state that our countries are in today?
that guy from the drums will wake up one day and find that he is living in one big Nazi state. SHORTLY.
least Tom Morel lo has the guts to stand up for his beliefs. muse also are trying to search for the truth. Kasabian also are starting to wake up.
we need protest singers now more than ever before. time to turn the x-factor off forever!
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Post by globe on Sept 9, 2011 7:11:28 GMT -5
beerbaron is back
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Post by RocketMan on Sept 9, 2011 7:50:08 GMT -5
well it doesn't do anything for me when artists write songs about politic. it's more a brandmark for a group like "hey we are so polictical". and most of the time i hate musicians talk about politic like u2 for example. they do the biggest concerts in the world with maybe the biggest waste of money and then they talk about poor people on those concerts. it's a bit paradoxical.
the only song that really effects me is sunday bloody sunday. thats a statement. but fuck the rest. in the end they get more attention when they write political songs and raise more money with it.
so why should i listen to them then?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2011 9:23:46 GMT -5
I still cannot believe Noel tried to write a political song, and failed miserably, in Mucky Fingers. I like political songs when the writer knows what they are talking about, like John Lennon, Reverend and the Makers, Mongrel, The Enemy, etc. Most of DM was about social/political issues in Britain, and it was brilliant! You are clearly delusional. Oh wait, didn't notice this was from BDIunofficial.
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Post by NYR on Sept 10, 2011 6:22:43 GMT -5
it depends. i can't stand it when bands and songs are preachy, but some of the greatest songs are political. some of the biggest movements inspired great songs and vice versa.
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Post by Mario on Sept 12, 2011 13:20:53 GMT -5
Ian Brown- Illegal Attacks
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2011 10:47:04 GMT -5
watched this cool doc on phil ochs the other day
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Post by masterplan200 on Sept 15, 2011 18:18:21 GMT -5
*cue NL4E calling POS terrorists*
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Post by The Morning Son on Sept 15, 2011 19:20:11 GMT -5
Most of DM was about social/political issues in Britain, and it was brilliant! This for me is probably one of the better examples of politics or 'social commentary' within songs. Noel seemed to write these songs unintentionally and it shows as he's just being honest. It was just him being frustrated and he penned these down as like stories, to me that works a lot better than a 'planned political song'.
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Post by matt on Sept 19, 2011 10:54:30 GMT -5
Social commentary isn't a problem in songs - The Smiths did it, Oasis have done it here and there, Kasabian did it with Where Did All The Love Go which is a great tune in my opinion, but when bands preach, that's when I hate it. Personally, one of my least favourite bands ever Rage Against The Machine fall into this category. I just cannot stand that band.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2011 18:28:35 GMT -5
rage are a great band
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