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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 28, 2011 21:05:12 GMT -5

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Aug 28, 2011 20:54:31 GMT -5 Lennon2217 said:

Aug 28, 2011 20:49:59 GMT -5 spaneli said:

True. There are usually multiple version of Noel demos.

The unfortunate thing though is that it seems as if Liam was doing less and less vocal on the demos as time went on.

I know. Liam appeared less and less on b-sides and that always bothered me. That is probably why the proposed second b-sides album never got off the ground in 2006 because when you start to compile the b-sides it would sound like a Noel solo album effort. I also believe a Record Machine demo with Liam does exist. They recorded it for two different album sessions (DBTT and DOYS). It exists. Especially since Liam keeps telling the press he wants to see if Noel sings STC and Record Machine as good as he did on the demos. I will keep the faith that one day in the future we will hear it via anthology or leak.

Did he say that?

If he did, then I take back what I said. There's probably definitely a version of it then.

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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 28, 2011 21:43:46 GMT -5

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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 28, 2011 21:43:46 GMT -5

Well I am assuming he means atleast Stop The Clocks and Record Machine.

Singer Liam Gallagher says he laid down the vocals for most of the songs that will feature on his sibling Noel's new record.
The Beady Eye singer thinks he's heard most of his brother Noel's solo album - because the material was swiped from their former band Oasis.
"I've heard his new record 'cos I f****** sung on half of it," the Sun quoted him as saying.
"When I was in America for Dig Out Your Soul he swiped some off it because he obviously knew he wanted to do a solo album. So he can talk all the bullsh*t about, 'Oh, I was intimidated,' and all that. F***ing nonsense. Behave. He knows. The people know. And I know," the rocker said.
'The loudmouth' star also believes Noel's future concerts will be dull.
"I'm sure it will all be very civilised and grown-up. His gigs will be like those that you can really stroke your chin at. With four rent-a-Scousers wearing shell-suits," he added.
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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 28, 2011 21:52:59 GMT -5 via the ProBoards App

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Post by gdforever on Aug 28, 2011 21:52:59 GMT -5

We knew STC and RM were ear marked for Oasis albums. And Noel has mentioned 1 more that definitely would have been on an Oasis album. But he said the 7 others probably wouldn't have been. He also said that there are several songs that need Liam and they'll just stay on a shelf.

I wouldn't trust that quote from Liam. That was from months before the track-listing was released. He didn't even know what songs were up for consideration.

He would have known what Noel was planning for the next Oasis release but they may not have even made it onto the Noel albums and the 3-4 Noel they had him demo for the next album (lets be realistic. Liam wasn't singing that many Noel stuff towards the end. Not even enough to make up half an album)

I doubt he was on literally half the 38 songs.

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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 28, 2011 22:13:38 GMT -5

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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 28, 2011 22:13:38 GMT -5

My point was that after being recorded once for DBTT (The version leaked) and a newer recording for DOYS, I strongly believe there is at least one demo with Liam on vocals. I just find it hard to believe Liam wouldn't lay down any vocals takes on this song if it was recorded during two different recording sessions. We shall see in time I guess.

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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 29, 2011 3:33:49 GMT -5

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Post by Velo on Aug 29, 2011 3:33:49 GMT -5

there's a quote floating around by Noel or someone else claiming there's a demo where Liam sings vocals on Stop The Clocks, in fact they mentioned it and also talked about how many times they recorded that damn song.

the existence of Liam's vox on LDSMD leads me to believe he recorded lead vocals on any important Noel demo. And in any case, so what if Liam didn't know the exact tracklisting? We all knew there was a solid chance Noel would include IIHAG, STC, RM and EOTR...

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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 29, 2011 12:33:18 GMT -5

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Post by LlAM on Aug 29, 2011 12:33:18 GMT -5

Aug 28, 2011 16:28:04 GMT -5 spaneli said:

Aug 28, 2011 5:06:59 GMT -5 Officer Jim Kurring said:

the Roller simply isn't that good and there's a reason it never appeared on an Oasis album.

think about it.

And I think another reason TR didn't make it onto an Oasis, was because Noel really did think it could be better.

When people were stating why they thought TR should have been released by Oasis, they kept stating that TR was better than the worst songs on DOYS. But I think the point that people were missing was that Noel didn't want TR to better than the worst stuff on a particular album. He wanted TR to be one of the best tracks on an album.

When Noel was talking about hearing most of the stuff on DGSS he made a point of saying that he thought that TR would/could have been a big song for Oasis, but they never could get it there. I think the reason that TR didn't make it onto an Oasis album was because Noel didn't just feel that TR could be better, but that it could be great. That it would make no sense to put as just an album track ON any album, when it clearly could be better, and if made better, be mega.

So when people say that TR is better than TNOR, AGN, or HHL, I don't think the intent was for TR to just be better than those songs, but rather for it to be just as good if not better than say TT or BIU (which I don't think it is). Noel wanted to make TR into a monster hit, not just a pretty good song. And I think TR would have stayed hidden if it didn't make it to point where Noel thought it had the potential to be.

Beady Eye released it because it was closes thing they had to an actual single other FLW. So they clearly couldn't afford to keep developing it until it became what Noel felt it could have become. The Roller was released by necessity. If Oasis had stayed together, we probably would have never heard TR. At least not until it developed into what it had the potential to become. And that's what I find kind of sad, because wasted (not saying that TR is a complete waste) potential is the worst thing to see/hear.

So it would have been nice if Oasis would have stayed together, or if Beady Eye would have had more of an opportunity to develop it into the song that it could have been.

I can't see how The Roller could be any better than it is.
I can't see how it has potential to be better than it is.
It already sounds fully developed.

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Record Machine should have been Oasis Aug 29, 2011 13:18:35 GMT -5

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Post by sidewindervj on Aug 29, 2011 13:18:35 GMT -5

All I can think about is how Oasis was failing at the end (2nd half of DOYS)
but they had all these songs in their arsenal that could have made another MG.
Love or hate the Roller, it's still a solid chart-making tune. Even a few from DG,SS.
That and RM, STC, IIHAF, EOTR, and TDOYAM could have made an amazing album.
I digress.
I'd kill to head Liam singing RM or STC. Hope it leaks.

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