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Andy on Noel: "He lied about a lot of things" Aug 26, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5

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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5

Aug 26, 2011 20:37:35 GMT -5 spaneli said:

Aug 26, 2011 9:46:56 GMT -5 Beady’s Here Now said:

George W. Bush went to Yale. Does that change your opinion of him?

And Harvard.

He's the only President to attend and graduate from both Harvard and Yale.

He has a B.A. from Yale, and he earned an M.B.A. from Harvard. Also the only President to earn an M.B.A.

I'm not just saying this b/c of his degrees: You can dislike him as a President, and sure, his constant misspeaking at public events didn't help (N.B. public speaking is a skill, and not a measure of intellect), but GWB was not stupid. The whole media perception that he was/is an idiot is flat out wrong.

Also, as a side note, intellect doesn't dictate a good president. Look at Jimmy Carter. Look at Barack Obama. Now Look at Ronald Reagan.......

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Andy on Noel: "He lied about a lot of things" Aug 26, 2011 22:44:56 GMT -5

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Post by spaneli on Aug 26, 2011 22:44:56 GMT -5

Aug 26, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5 Beady’s Here Now said:

Aug 26, 2011 20:37:35 GMT -5 spaneli said:

And Harvard.

He's the only President to attend and graduate from both Harvard and Yale.

He has a B.A. from Yale, and he earned an M.B.A. from Harvard. Also the only President to earn an M.B.A.

I think Obama still has bit of time before we call him a bad President. As of the moment, I'd call him a middle of the road President. He'd rank right in the middle. Nothing guarantees a good President. I'd include Woodrow Wilson and JFK among highly educated Presidents. And they were pretty good.

And I wasn't insinuating that Bush is dumb. I think that got overplayed a bit.

"Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes."

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Andy on Noel: "He lied about a lot of things" Aug 26, 2011 23:30:02 GMT -5

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Post by spaneli on Aug 26, 2011 23:30:02 GMT -5

Aug 26, 2011 23:23:34 GMT -5 Guigs said:

Where the feck did this politics talk come from?

Aug 26, 2011 9:46:56 GMT -5 Beady’s Here Now said:

George W. Bush went to Yale. Does that change your opinion of him?

oh yeah I should have guessed ::)

Because someone made the point that Andy attended Oxford, and was an intellectual and therefore has no reason to lie.

NL4E countered with G.W. Bush, because he wanted to know if him having a degree from Yale (and Harvard), would change his opinion.

There in saying that degree doesn't count toward you being liar, or innocent, or smart, dumb, or infallible.

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Andy on Noel: "He lied about a lot of things" Aug 26, 2011 23:43:50 GMT -5

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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2011 23:43:50 GMT -5

Aug 26, 2011 23:30:02 GMT -5 spaneli said:

Aug 26, 2011 23:23:34 GMT -5 Guigs said:

Where the feck did this politics talk come from?

oh yeah I should have guessed ::)

Being a supporter of Bush, and thinking college degrees do matter, yes. But it was a rhetorical response knowing that most don't rate Bush, so I wanted to show BEU was being silly and hypocritical (should he support the notion that Bush is stupid) by pointing out that Andy went to Oxford. Essentially: BEU is checkmated if he calls Andy smart for the lone reason of him attending Oxford, but at the same time labeling Bush as stupid despite going to Yale. You can't have it both ways.

Maybe Guigs should think more about the context before he jumps in to criticize. My post actually made a salient rhetorical point.

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Andy on Noel: "He lied about a lot of things" (Read 3,930 times)

Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5

Post by spaneli on Aug 26, 2011 22:44:56 GMT -5

Post by Guigs on Aug 26, 2011 23:23:34 GMT -5

Post by spaneli on Aug 26, 2011 23:30:02 GMT -5

Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2011 23:43:50 GMT -5

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