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Post by Iliad ♣ on Aug 13, 2011 3:21:16 GMT -5
Its so easy and pointless just to sit back and say "All lies..." Either say what happened or say nothing at all. And no, I'm not picking sides. I got to agree with this. Andy says Noel is lying but doesn't tell us what actually happened...you can't win a discussion without proper arguments. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 13, 2011 3:40:00 GMT -5
Its so easy and pointless just to sit back and say "All lies..." Either say what happened or say nothing at all. And no, I'm not picking sides. I got to agree with this. Andy says Noel is lying but doesn't tell us what actually happened...you can't win a discussion without proper arguments. This aint 'a discussion he wants to win'.  This fight probably was about personal things. It's something between Noel and Liam. Who knows what it was about?! Maybe some really rude things have been said. Maybe about people close to the band, maybe about their wives, friens, management, ... It's obviously things they don't want other people than themselves to know 'cause both havn't got into detail about it. It's not up to Andy to say what exactly happened, he wasn't even part of the fight. |
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Aug 13, 2011 4:00:57 GMT -5
I got to agree with this. Andy says Noel is lying but doesn't tell us what actually happened...you can't win a discussion without proper arguments. This aint 'a discussion he wants to win'. This fight probably was about personal things. It's something between Noel and Liam. Who knows what it was about?! Maybe some really rude things have been said. Maybe about people close to the band, maybe about their wives, friens, management, ... It's obviously things they don't want other people than themselves to know 'cause both havn't got into detail about it. It's not up to Andy to say what exactly happened, he wasn't even part of the fight. If that was the case Andy should've abstained from comment. Now, he just says "Noel's lying" but doesn't explain what happened. He can expect Noel to comment again on this reaction, so it is becoming a fight/discussion/whatever if they continue like this. The bottom line is that Andy should've abstained from comment if he isn't part of the fight. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 13, 2011 4:25:53 GMT -5
This aint 'a discussion he wants to win'. This fight probably was about personal things. It's something between Noel and Liam. Who knows what it was about?! Maybe some really rude things have been said. Maybe about people close to the band, maybe about their wives, friens, management, ... It's obviously things they don't want other people than themselves to know 'cause both havn't got into detail about it. It's not up to Andy to say what exactly happened, he wasn't even part of the fight. If that was the case Andy should've abstained from comment. Now, he just says "Noel's lying" but doesn't explain what happened. He can expect Noel to comment again on this reaction, so it is becoming a fight/discussion/whatever if they continue like this. The bottom line is that Andy should've abstained from comment if he isn't part of the fight. Andy had every right to say something after Noel slated him regardless of whether that comes up to your standards of what he should or shouldn't say. Andy was only reacting to what Noel said about him, why do people on here assume he should explain every detail like they have some sort of right to know everything. Songbirdsally was pretty much spot on. |
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Aug 13, 2011 4:35:08 GMT -5
If that was the case Andy should've abstained from comment. Now, he just says "Noel's lying" but doesn't explain what happened. He can expect Noel to comment again on this reaction, so it is becoming a fight/discussion/whatever if they continue like this. The bottom line is that Andy should've abstained from comment if he isn't part of the fight. Andy had every right to say something after Noel slated him regardless of whether that comes up to your standards of what he should or shouldn't say. Andy was only reacting to what Noel said about him, why do people on here assume he should explain every detail like they have some sort of right to know everything. Songbirdsally was pretty much spot on. It's not about me ffs, it's that Andy shouldn't expect people to believe him if he doesn't say what exactly happened. And he obviously wants that, otherwise he wouldn't have responded to Noel, saying he's lying. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 13, 2011 5:08:12 GMT -5
Andy had every right to say something after Noel slated him regardless of whether that comes up to your standards of what he should or shouldn't say. Andy was only reacting to what Noel said about him, why do people on here assume he should explain every detail like they have some sort of right to know everything. Songbirdsally was pretty much spot on. It's not about me ffs, it's that Andy shouldn't expect people to believe him if he doesn't say what exactly happened. And he obviously wants that, otherwise he wouldn't have responded to Noel, saying he's lying. I don't think he expects people to believe him, I don't think he gives a shit whether people on internet forums think he is telling the truth or not. He responded to the question for him, in the best way he could for him. He reacted to what Noel had said. His answer was not made for the converting of the masses now was it. You have to look to Noel for those. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 13, 2011 5:09:32 GMT -5
It's not about me ffs, it's that Andy shouldn't expect people to believe him if he doesn't say what exactly happened. And he obviously wants that, otherwise he wouldn't have responded to Noel, saying he's lying. I don't think he expects people to believe him, I don't think he gives a shit whether people on internet forums think he is telling the truth or not. He responded to the question for him, in the best way he could for him. He reacted to what Noel had said. His answer was not made for the converting of the masses now was it. You have to look to Noel for those. Exactly. It was an interview for a Japanese magazine fgs! While Noel held a fucking press conference! |
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Post by LlAM on Aug 13, 2011 5:33:27 GMT -5
I don't think he expects people to believe him, I don't think he gives a shit whether people on internet forums think he is telling the truth or not. He responded to the question for him, in the best way he could for him. He reacted to what Noel had said. His answer was not made for the converting of the masses now was it. You have to look to Noel for those. Exactly. It was an interview for a Japanese magazine fgs! While Noel held a fucking press conference! Noel did the press conference so he doesn't have to do these pointless interviews. He was hardly trying to "convert the masses" whatever that means in this situatuon. |
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Post by songbird11 on Aug 13, 2011 11:40:55 GMT -5
andy aint part of the fight he's responding because noel said he was just sitting their,thing is we'll never know,we'll only wanna believe what we wanna believe.
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 13, 2011 13:28:30 GMT -5
As much as I don't like Andy, Nole shoundn't blame him, he is a grow up and could deal with his brother.
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Aug 15, 2011 4:28:24 GMT -5
Is this new?? Didn't want to start a new thread cuz I don't know. It's from some Dutch website.
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 15, 2011 4:58:55 GMT -5
Is this new?? Didn't want to start a new thread cuz I don't know. It's from some Dutch website. No, it's just little fragments from a longer interview put together. The interview is 2 parts, it's on the same YouTube channel and it's pretty good! |
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Aug 15, 2011 5:02:17 GMT -5
alright thanks!
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Post by LlAM on Aug 15, 2011 11:14:48 GMT -5
As much as I don't like Andy, Nole shoundn't blame him, he is a grow up and could deal with his brother. Good thing he didn't blame him then isn't it? Think about it. |
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Aug 18, 2011 17:37:55 GMT -5
Is anyone else sick to death of hearing "Andy/Liam hasn't told us what happened that night"? Its not about that one night, its about the whole 12 month tour.
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Post by Guigs on Aug 19, 2011 22:48:24 GMT -5
Good on Andy for speaking his mind. It has become a common theme with Noel to talk trash about former band mates, so hopefully he will be humbled a little with these words from Andy.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 20, 2011 0:52:20 GMT -5
Good on Andy for speaking his mind. It has become a common theme with Noel to talk trash about former band mates, so hopefully he will be humbled a little with these words from Andy. no chance. Noel's a genius and more importantly he knows it. he's earned being a bit arrogant. think about it. i tend to disagree with a lot of what you say because i'm a genius, too. and you're obviously stupid so.......... aloha! |
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Post by beadyeyeunofficial on Aug 25, 2011 14:20:30 GMT -5
Andy went to Oxford University to study Art, he's not exactly a thick fuck, is he? Whereas the likes of Noel Gallagher and LIB are missing a few slices of bread from the loaf, Andy is an intelligent, rational, honest man who frequently astounds me with his intelligence. Why would a smart man lie?
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Post by discworld on Aug 25, 2011 14:49:46 GMT -5
Andy went to Oxford University to study Art, he's not exactly a thick fuck, is he? Whereas the likes of Noel Gallagher and LIB are missing a few slices of bread from the loaf, Andy is an intelligent, rational, honest man who frequently astounds me with his intelligence. Why would a smart man lie? Because he's smart ! |
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Post by Guigs on Aug 25, 2011 23:24:38 GMT -5
Andy went to Oxford University to study Art, he's not exactly a thick fuck, is he? Whereas the likes of Noel Gallagher and LIB are missing a few slices of bread from the loaf, Andy is an intelligent, rational, honest man who frequently astounds me with his intelligence. Why would a smart man lie? Unfortunately in LIB's case, he's just got the end pieces of the loaf left. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 26, 2011 9:46:56 GMT -5
Andy went to Oxford University to study Art, he's not exactly a thick fuck, is he? Whereas the likes of Noel Gallagher and LIB are missing a few slices of bread from the loaf, Andy is an intelligent, rational, honest man who frequently astounds me with his intelligence. Why would a smart man lie? George W. Bush went to Yale. Does that change your opinion of him? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 26, 2011 10:04:03 GMT -5
Andy went to Oxford University to study Art, he's not exactly a thick fuck, is he? Whereas the likes of Noel Gallagher and LIB are missing a few slices of bread from the loaf, Andy is an intelligent, rational, honest man who frequently astounds me with his intelligence. Why would a smart man lie? George W. Bush went to Yale. Does that change your opinion of him? Yeah I don't think a degree in lego building counts. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2011 10:08:07 GMT -5
Degree's are nothing more than a sheet of paper with some signatures on it. They mean NOTHING! It's how you apply whatever knowledge you have that really matters. Either way, this threads has turned to shite! |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 26, 2011 10:12:12 GMT -5
And it just turned into more shite with you saying degree's are worth nothing. They are worth less than they used to and are certainly not the be all and end all but they most certainly don't mean nothing.
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Post by spaneli on Aug 26, 2011 20:37:35 GMT -5
Andy went to Oxford University to study Art, he's not exactly a thick fuck, is he? Whereas the likes of Noel Gallagher and LIB are missing a few slices of bread from the loaf, Andy is an intelligent, rational, honest man who frequently astounds me with his intelligence. Why would a smart man lie? George W. Bush went to Yale. Does that change your opinion of him? And Harvard. He's the only President to attend and graduate from both Harvard and Yale. He has a B.A. from Yale, and he earned an M.B.A. from Harvard. Also the only President to earn an M.B.A. |
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