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Post by jakob61907 on Aug 12, 2011 2:08:13 GMT -5
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Post by andymorris on Aug 12, 2011 2:16:24 GMT -5
Yeah but Andy also said in many many interwiews that BDI songs were new and fresh bar a couple, but we know that's a BIG lie. I think both camps are lying personally.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Aug 12, 2011 2:18:15 GMT -5
well at least Andy appears to have a set of balls....
i like him but it's obvious Noel and Andy didn't get along too well to begin with, and at times Andy seems a little 'stuffy'.
i again refer to the LDSMD dvd, in one scene Andy is asked why he joined a band, 'for sex, drugs and rock n roll?' to which he gave the pretentious, 'cooler than you' answer but then of course Liam says 'i joined a band for the sex, drugs and rock n roll.', classic.
aloha!
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 12, 2011 2:29:26 GMT -5
Yeah but Andy also said in many many interwiews that BDI songs were new and fresh bar a couple, but we know that's a BIG lie. I think both camps are lying personally. I don't think he said they were all new, we've known for ages some of them were from the Oasis years. He just reinforces what I think about Noel already, a very talented, clever, manipulative man.
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Post by discworld on Aug 12, 2011 2:50:33 GMT -5
After Liam "I'm a NG's victim" Gallagher, you can buy the new puppet Andy "I'm a NG's victim" Bell. Available only at BE webstore.
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Post by thepicturesgeneration on Aug 12, 2011 3:03:50 GMT -5
andy finally says his side of the story after noel puts the spotlight on him. surprising.
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Post by jakob61907 on Aug 12, 2011 4:26:27 GMT -5
Interesting what he said bout Noel and the press and the other members not having a say
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Post by revol on Aug 12, 2011 5:02:55 GMT -5
Dandy Smell can actually speak up for himself. What a surprise.
Better go and make a mix called "Bell should stay mute" containing 35 minutes of silence.
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 12, 2011 5:31:05 GMT -5
Why the Andy Bell hate? He just gives his opinion on it, he has every right to do so, just like Liam did and Noel did.
It was an interesting read too! Nothing surprising. Noel manipulates press to suit him (wow! what a surprise!) and he and the other bandmates get along a lot better than they ever did with Noel (again what a surprise! even Noel says so in his last inteview..). And in the end he's supportive towards Noel, wishing him to be happy in what he does.
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Post by ponydigger9 on Aug 12, 2011 5:37:58 GMT -5
I don't think it should come a surprise that Noel was able to/most likely did spin the press a lot. He was the person in Oasis the press went to for everything. And Noel being Noel, of course he's gonna make himself seem better at least a little bit. Obviously we'll never know EXACTLY what was true and what wasn't, but I'm sure there is an element of truth about Noel spinning the press to take note of what he says over others.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 12, 2011 6:01:15 GMT -5
After Liam "I'm a NG's victim" Gallagher, you can buy the new puppet Andy "I'm a NG's victim" Bell. Available only at BE webstore. Your name wouldn't happen to be Sara would it?
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Post by revol on Aug 12, 2011 6:04:27 GMT -5
It just keeps some of us entertained while we're waiting for some bigger news. And by the way I must say that it's kind of touching when they all say how well they get along nowadays...Literally in every interview. They should dress up in matching uniforms, like the bloody Osmonds, and call the next album "Smile".
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Post by mossy on Aug 12, 2011 6:26:08 GMT -5
When Andy accuses Noel of lying here I think he has misunderstood what Noel said at the press conference.
The Pretty Green / Programme argument was clearly at the start of the tour not on the night of the split- Liam wouldn't be asking to get his ads in the tour programme at one of the last gigs.
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Post by songbirdsally on Aug 12, 2011 6:36:59 GMT -5
When Andy accuses Noel of lying here I think he has misunderstood what Noel said at the press conference. The Pretty Green / Programme argument was clearly at the start of the tour not on the night of the split- Liam wouldn't be asking to get his ads in the tour programme at one of the last gigs. Yeah, but the video's on YouTube are called 'Oasis split up over Pretty Green' as were the headlines in press. If you read AND think you know that was in the beginning of the tour and not the final argument, but may people seem to forget about the 2nd part and only read the headlines. So that's just why Andy is saying that isn't the reason Oasis split up.
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Aug 12, 2011 6:58:38 GMT -5
So true... Andy's my favorite member of former Oasis so I don't really get this whole fascination for Noel here. He's human, or at least have become one after SOTSOG.
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Post by martinpaul on Aug 12, 2011 8:22:47 GMT -5
I love the fact that on this forum Noel's opinion is treated as 100% gospel while Andy's, Liam's or Tony McCarroll's for that matter in his book are all 100% lies.
You couldn't make it up, there are some proper delusional posters on here if you can't admit that Noel is at least partly culpable for the rows and split.
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Post by revol on Aug 12, 2011 8:37:52 GMT -5
You couldn't make it up, there are some proper delusional posters on here if you can't admit that Noel is at least partly culpable for the rows and split. Come on, of course he is. But at least he's the funny and witty one. I wouldn't stand listening to Bell for 20 minutes straight even if he revealed the missing tapes from Watergate or the evidence for UFO existence. He'd make it sound boring. But of course it doesn't make him wrong in the Noel vs. Beady Eye argument.
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 12, 2011 8:39:40 GMT -5
I love the fact that on this forum Noel's opinion is treated as 100% gospel while Andy's, Liam's or Tony McCarroll's for that matter in his book are all 100% lies. You couldn't make it up, there are some proper delusional posters on here if you can't admit that Noel is at least partly culpable for the rows and split. Noel Gallagher is GOD
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Post by Rifles on Aug 12, 2011 9:07:46 GMT -5
He doesn't really say anything new here, unfortunately. The interesting point for me is the only thing Liam/Andy have denied is the Pretty Green argument. They haven't refuted the violence of the final fight or any of that. And if they'd actually read or listened to all of what Noel said, they would realize he claims the big fight was over Liam missing the VFest gig, not PG ads.
It doesn't help your case much when you only defend part of it, and not even the most important part.
Not saying Noel is 100% correct or whatever. When he tells a story we only hear his side and we haven't actually heard a descriptive account from the other side yet so no one really knows. It's odd to me that Andy wouldn't stand up for himself and defend his own actions during "the fight" though. He had an opportunity to clear things up and he wimped out. Giving your account of a situation and qualifying it with "This is how I saw it..." is not adding fuel to the fire, it's just being honest. BUT, if he is trying to avoid any and all press back-and-forth, then I can understand why he did that.
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Post by lainie on Aug 12, 2011 9:11:39 GMT -5
I'm sure every single one of them is lying ;D
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Post by tomlivesforever on Aug 12, 2011 9:24:49 GMT -5
He doesn't really say anything new here, unfortunately. The interesting point for me is the only thing Liam/Andy have denied is the Pretty Green argument. They haven't refuted the violence of the final fight or any of that. And if they'd actually read or listened to all of what Noel said, they would realize he claims the big fight was over Liam missing the VFest gig, not PG ads. It doesn't help your case much when you only defend part of it, and not even the most important part. Not saying Noel is 100% correct or whatever. When he tells a story we only hear his side and we haven't actually heard a descriptive account from the other side yet so no one really knows. It's odd to me that Andy wouldn't stand up for himself and defend his own actions during "the fight" though. He had an opportunity to clear things up and he wimped out. Giving your account of a situation and qualifying it with "This is how I saw it..." is not adding fuel to the fire, it's just being honest. BUT, if he is trying to avoid any and all press back-and-forth, then I can understand why he did that. Andy said he saw the conference and then.... "He lied about a lot of things. The argument about Pretty Green was lies, what he said about V Festival and the fake laryngitis was lies ..." So he did address that. And yeah I think he can't really be bothered with the mud slinging and I wouldn't blame him.
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Post by Shockmaster on Aug 12, 2011 10:21:50 GMT -5
I love the fact that on this forum Noel's opinion is treated as 100% gospel while Andy's, Liam's or Tony McCarroll's for that matter in his book are all 100% lies. I don't agree with all the Andy and Liam hate... But apparantly that McCarrol is a right wanker. Someone who I was talking to on Facebook saw him in a pub and went and asked him to sign his book and he just simple told him to fuck off... I mean, the guy should be more appreciative that some people still know who he is after almost 20 years of being on 1 album and then leaving... It's not even like he was with them when they peaked in popularity...
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Post by revol on Aug 12, 2011 10:34:45 GMT -5
There's a brilliant movie by Akira Kurosawa called "Rashomon". A situation recalled from differing perspectives. Noel is just like Tajômaru
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Post by Rifles on Aug 12, 2011 10:37:48 GMT -5
Andy said he saw the conference and then.... "He lied about a lot of things. The argument about Pretty Green was lies, what he said about V Festival and the fake laryngitis was lies ..." So he did address that. And yeah I think he can't really be bothered with the mud slinging and I wouldn't blame him. He addressed those couple things, but the only thing he said about the fight was that it wasn't about PG, which Noel never said anyway. We'll clearly never know for sure what happened as Liam and co. are short on details, unfortunately.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 12, 2011 10:47:42 GMT -5
Someone who I was talking to on Facebook saw him in a pub and went and asked him to sign his book and he just simple told him to fuck off... A story like that's gotta be true.
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