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Post by wonderplan on Aug 10, 2011 7:46:39 GMT -5
Who do you think is the best Gallagher related producer?
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Post by galli86 on Aug 10, 2011 7:52:45 GMT -5
good question. in my book its owen morris. does anyone know why noel quit working with him? the be here now disaster (as noel sees it) would be a pretty lame reason.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 7:54:04 GMT -5
Lillywhite imo
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Post by Bampot on Aug 10, 2011 8:04:14 GMT -5
Mark Stent by miles.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Aug 10, 2011 8:25:20 GMT -5
sardy.
it can't be stent because he put those fake choirs on too many songs and ruined them.
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Post by wonderplan on Aug 10, 2011 8:53:24 GMT -5
sardy. it can't be stent because he put those fake choirs on too many songs and ruined them. well part of it was him & part of it was the fact that it was only a 3 piece band then. |
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Post by LlAM on Aug 10, 2011 9:00:17 GMT -5
Mark Stent. Hands down. Thread over.
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Post by Bampot on Aug 10, 2011 10:13:20 GMT -5
sardy. it can't be stent because he put those fake choirs on too many songs and ruined them. His production on 'Gas Panic', 'Roll It Over', 'Let's All Make Believe' and 'Cigarettes In Hell' makes up for the fake choir on SMC and LJ. By far the best produced era of Oasis music. |
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 10, 2011 10:39:40 GMT -5
Mike Spike Stent of course, his work on GP, GLIO, FITB, RIO are genious, and WFL has a lot of found sounds to be discovered.
Dave Sardy is getting better on every release, Owen Morris was ok, and Lillywhite his production was a little flat on DGSS.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 11:15:25 GMT -5
Lilywhite should be knighted for his work with BDI. He took LAG's drivel and made a respectable album out of it. Far more impressive than anyone else who had at least a few decent Noel tunes to complete an album.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 13:14:47 GMT -5
Stent, based purely on Who Feels Love?  |
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Post by manualex on Aug 10, 2011 13:18:42 GMT -5
Stent, based purely on Who Feels Love? This a million times, you have to hear it with headphones to get a full motion of whatever is going on, and Liam is singing for his life in that one. The only flaw i saw was that he never talked about the liar/fire line and replacing Put your money with something else(or chop it down a bit) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 13:30:51 GMT -5
Stent, based purely on Who Feels Love? This a million times, you have to hear it with headphones to get a full motion of whatever is going on, and Liam is singing for his life in that one. The only flaw i saw was that he never talked about the liar/fire line and replacing Put your money with something else(or chop it down a bit) totally agree, even to this day listening to that song with headphones i notice little things ive never picked up on such an under-rated tune |
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Post by Lennon2217 on Aug 10, 2011 13:40:04 GMT -5
I think Noel stopped working with Owen because he basically became like the 6th member of the band and indulged himself into the rockstar life. Too much booze, Too much cocaine and probably too many groupies. The blinders went on for Owen the same for Noel and everyone else. Oasis needed an honest, outsiders opinion after Be Here Now. Was Owen even a true producer? I know his skill is mixing. Having all that been said I still think his era of producing duties was the best. All those tunes from 94-96 are timeless.
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Post by 0as1s on Aug 10, 2011 14:16:42 GMT -5
This a million times, you have to hear it with headphones to get a full motion of whatever is going on, and Liam is singing for his life in that one. The only flaw i saw was that he never talked about the liar/fire line and replacing Put your money with something else(or chop it down a bit) totally agree, even to this day listening to that song with headphones i notice little things ive never picked up on such an under-rated tune Agreed. I can see why Noel doesn't play it anymore as it's not the type of tune to get a great reaction from a live audience but on record its fantastic. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 14:38:16 GMT -5
Oasis IS the Owen Morris era.
For me anyway.
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Post by shoofee on Aug 11, 2011 0:55:35 GMT -5
Its Sardy. His work with the band the last two records was a foundation to work off of. I think there is a definite pick up in quality from DBTT to DOYS.
I cant say Stent. The choirs + encouraging drivel like PYMWYMI and ICSAL. Its also arguable that the songs that have been pointed out were all there before him. None of the SOTSOG Demos which are entirely the work of Noel sound completely different from the final version. The songs were already there for the most part. In fact, Stent is probably arguable for the most useless of producers as its IMO that Noel is responsible for the majority of the work considering arrangement and such on that record.
Morris defines a specific era. I would rank him 2nd.
Sardy's work can't be denied though. He was getting them to expand on things. Liam clearly benefited from the presence of Dave Sardy.
And I agree with the comments about Lillywhite. I cant stand the record, but its technically sound.
Now though? I want Noel to work with anyone BUT Dave Sardy the next time. I cannot wait for the AA stuff.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 11, 2011 1:57:38 GMT -5
I originally thought it said 'Best produce?' and was excited.
Ah well.
(For the record, I'd have gone for kale or avocados.)
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Post by Teotihuacan on Aug 11, 2011 3:54:19 GMT -5
in my book its owen morris. does anyone know why noel quit working with him? No one knows for sure because nobody involved has said but even before the release of MG, Noel was talking about how the first 3 Oasis albums were of a piece - they were loud, anthemic rock songs recorded very live made for crowds to sing. He thought he would run out of those type of songs or get bored of writing them, so it's likely Noel wanted to work with someone else who could give him new opportunities for change. I'd say the most important was Owen Morris. He's portrayed in most accounts (e.g. the DM DVD interviews) as the person who really pulled it out of the bag when Noel and the other mixers were having a lot of trouble finishing DM. His work in the 95-97 period speaks for itself, not technically perfect, but he was the right man for the times and he knew what the songs needed. In 2nd place, I'd say Stent. Noel made brilliant SOTSOG demos, but I think there's a unique feel to SOTSOG which Stent deserves for mixing it and putting his own stamp on the new sound they were creating. |
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Post by wonderplan on Aug 11, 2011 7:11:30 GMT -5
I'm amazed how highly praised Stent is by the community. I'll agree SOTSOG is an underrated & unique sounding record how much of that is attributed to Stent i don't know. It was a self reflecting period for Noel & they were a 3 piece band where alot of it was recorded in a chateau so i'm sure alot of these things played a part in the end sound.
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Post by caats19 on Aug 11, 2011 12:18:04 GMT -5
heh who voted noel
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Post by rmillis on Aug 11, 2011 12:35:09 GMT -5
Mark Stent. Hands down. Thread over. I hate shit head comments like this. Sorry thread isn't over. Anyway, I believe Sardy is the best producer Oasis has had. Listen to DOYS and you'll know what I mean. And if I hear another person say loudness war I will hunt you down! |
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 11, 2011 12:38:49 GMT -5
Owen Morris' style of producing was perfect for the '90s...obviously that wouldn't fly today.
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Post by davidjay on Aug 11, 2011 12:52:27 GMT -5
I think each producer has brought something great to the band's sound, making it difficult to choose one over the others. I really like Owen Morris' mixes (Columbia and Wonderwall being two of my favourites of his), but I think at times (most of BHN) they got too dense. And the mastering of the CDs didn't help, IMO. In the end I voted for Dave Sardy. I think he did a great job on DOYS in particular.
I still think that Supersonic is one of the best sounding Oasis records, which is funny when you consider Noel's account of how quickly and cheaply it was recorded. It just sounds like a clean, dynamic recording of the band playing in a room together. I think on DM it has the most powerful drum sound too. So credit should go to Mark Coyle for mixing that one.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Aug 11, 2011 13:17:56 GMT -5
Sardy's stepped his game up so much that I have to pick him. DOYS sounded great and TDOYAM is perfection.
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