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Post by wonderplan on Aug 10, 2011 7:19:47 GMT -5
I was wondering is TGR & other of Noel's b-sides self produced like Beady Eye or has Dave Sardy polished them up?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2011 7:52:38 GMT -5
Im guessing TGR is just the demo that's been knocking about for ages and never was re recorded. It's damn good though!  |
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Post by Rifles on Aug 10, 2011 8:30:26 GMT -5
I was wondering is TGR & other of Noel's b-sides self produced like Beady Eye or has Dave Sardy polished them up? It definitely sounds like he did it himself. I wouldn't be surprised. |
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Post by Norbert Gallhager on Aug 10, 2011 9:26:09 GMT -5
So you assume he played all the instruments?
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 10, 2011 10:18:40 GMT -5
Does The Good Rebel reallly sound like it's been properly produced? I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually a demo.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 10, 2011 12:41:02 GMT -5
A really well produced demo, but a demo nonetheless.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 10, 2011 13:01:31 GMT -5
I think it might have been something lying around recorded in the HC era. He might have had to go back that far to find something Gem wasn't on the recording of. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a demo recording just dusted off. Something that he had lying around like TSBH...but better.
Maybe between the 2 albums he didn't want or didn't have time to do a full studio recording particularly since this wasn't actually suppose to be a single originally. We have no idea when they decided to change that. It could have been before shooting the video or after shooting the video.
I hope the next b-side is a bit fresher.
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Post by rupertg on Aug 10, 2011 16:12:27 GMT -5
That's definitely not Noel playing the drums. Unless Noel came a long from the SOTSOG demos.
Maybe it was recorded in Wellers studio where he did the original demos.
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Post by wonderplan on Aug 10, 2011 17:49:38 GMT -5
That's definitely not Noel playing the drums. Unless Noel came a long from the SOTSOG demos. Maybe it was recorded in Wellers studio where he did the original demos. I always assumed Alan White drummed on the sotsog demos |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Aug 10, 2011 17:58:02 GMT -5
who cares really, TGR is awesome, end of.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 10, 2011 18:29:41 GMT -5
That's definitely not Noel playing the drums. Unless Noel came a long from the SOTSOG demos. Maybe it was recorded in Wellers studio where he did the original demos. I always assumed Alan White drummed on the sotsog demos Nope, that's Noel. |
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 10, 2011 20:57:20 GMT -5
Actually Alan White and Noel weren't on the best of terms around SOTSOG, because Noel was using more and more drum loops in his songs.
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Post by MSprague01 on Aug 10, 2011 21:04:31 GMT -5
I like the production on TGR. Especially the guitar sound.
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Post by andymorris on Aug 11, 2011 2:09:03 GMT -5
Too produced to be a demo. Maybe self produced but not a demo.
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Post by gdforever on Aug 11, 2011 10:36:23 GMT -5
I was thinking more like an adaptation of a demo. Like TIOBI was.
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 11, 2011 11:32:29 GMT -5
I was thinking more like an adaptation of a demo. Like TIOBI was. TIOBI was an adaptation of a demo? That's the first time I'm hearing that... |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 11, 2011 13:16:43 GMT -5
Wasn't it? I remember hearing something about it being something that they couldn't replicate when they tried to redo it with Sardy. They just fiddled a bit with the demo because they couldn't make it sound eny better than what they had originally been captured on the demo.
Am I confusing it with another song? I am almost postive it was TIOBI.
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Post by LlAM on Aug 11, 2011 13:25:47 GMT -5
Wasn't it? I remember hearing something about it being something that they couldn't replicate when they tried to redo it with Sardy. They just fiddled a bit with the demo because they couldn't make it sound eny better than what they had originally been captured on the demo. Am I confusing it with another song? I am almost postive it was TIOBI. I've heard the demo and the answer is no. |
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Post by Rifles on Aug 11, 2011 13:26:44 GMT -5
No, gd is right. Noel has said in a few intereview that TIOBI is essentially the demo version.
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Post by LlAM on Aug 11, 2011 13:29:21 GMT -5
No, gd is right. Noel has said in a few intereview that TIOBI is essentially the demo version. ...as in it didn't change much from the demo version. It's clearly not the same session as the demo. |
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Post by gdforever on Aug 11, 2011 14:07:27 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to find the interview. He's goes through the songs and where they came from. I think the question was something about which songs had made it from the Death in Vegas sessions and he said that they tried to rerecord TIOBI during the session and it didn't sound as good so they tweaked and added to the demo. As in it's modified but Noel said it was a version they made on their own in Wheelers End.
He specifically said that it was one that the band did on their own with no outside help and it was special to him for that reason and they didn't redo it with Sardy.
Anyone remember which interview that one was?
He may have been lying. But he has said it.
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Post by Bampot on Aug 11, 2011 14:15:52 GMT -5
It is almost certain that the TIOBI acoustic demo released on the DVD was recorded after the fact (see Mr. Monobrow's demo information page.)
The album version was recorded in Noel's studio prior to the LA sessions with Sardy for DBTT. It wasn't re-recorded in LA, so it is essentially the real "demo" that made it onto the album (with only minor overdubs and re-mixing by Sardy in LA).
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Post by Bampot on Aug 11, 2011 14:18:34 GMT -5
I'm too lazy to find the interview. He's goes through the songs and where they came from. I think the question was something about which songs had made it from the Death in Vegas interview and he said that they tried to rerecord TIOBI during the session and it didn't sound as good so they tweaked and added to the demo. As in it's modified but Noel said it was a version they made on their own in Wheelers End. He specifically said that it was one that the band did on their own with no outside help and it was special to him for that reason and they didn't redo it with Sardy. Anyone remember which interview that one was? He may have been lying. But he has said it. I'm pretty sure it is either on the DBTT "The Ear Has No Memory" DVD or the "Stop The Clocks" DVD. |
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Post by shoes222 on Aug 11, 2011 14:39:00 GMT -5
I find it interesting if TIOBI really was from a demo, considering that's the best sounding song from DBTT. Interesting if that has no Sardy influence when I've been giving him credit for it this entire time.
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Post by thuperthonic on Aug 11, 2011 15:11:45 GMT -5
Yeah, Oasis did that one without Sardy.
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