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Post by webm@ster on Sept 7, 2004 19:54:14 GMT -5
Alright , I can post it in this forum now too. Didn't wan't to get shit from other forums for starting a rumour. I had emails sent to me in the past weeks claiming there was a "buzz" regarding U2 and Oasis touring together with U2 being the headliner. Various other forums are reporting it now ( claiming to have reliable insider sources ) ....so go ahead discuss  |
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Post by belgallagher on Sept 7, 2004 20:03:34 GMT -5
really? mmm...dunno if i should beleive this...  |
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Post by Eggy on Sept 8, 2004 3:32:26 GMT -5
thats exactly the same rumour that was around 2 years ago. I even pre-ordered tickets for that gig that wouldve been in the Amsterdam ArenA (50.000).
Its probably bullshit
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Post by maketradefair on Sept 8, 2004 8:41:33 GMT -5
bring it on. i would love to see that!!
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Post by Eggy on Sept 8, 2004 8:56:52 GMT -5
yeah
bring it on DOWN
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Post by masterplan200 on Sept 9, 2004 1:50:35 GMT -5
Bring it on.. ;D
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Post by Columbia on Sept 9, 2004 6:23:04 GMT -5
bring it on. i would love to see that!! why, u2 are shit. It will also bring the prices right up because u2 are sell outs and have no problem whatsoever with ripping off their "fans" and charging £100 + for a gig. If oasis do this i will loose a lot of respect for them because the only possible reason i can think of doing it would be to get more exposure and money in the states. I dont think it would happen in britain because oasis dont need u2 here but for all you americans that think this will be good think again. u2 are so much bigger then oasis in the states and it will be a huge arena tour where id say probably 85% of the audience will be there to see u2, what a great atmosphere for the oasis gig that will be . fuck u2 and that knobhead bono  . |
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Post by maketradefair on Sept 9, 2004 8:23:49 GMT -5
bono is one of my idols man. hes a legend.
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Post by Eggy on Sept 9, 2004 9:35:30 GMT -5
did he change music? no. Was u2 an influencal band to other great bands? no.
Oasis was more influencal than they were
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Post by SuperStar on Sept 9, 2004 12:11:15 GMT -5
did he change music? no. Was u2 an influencal band to other great bands? no. Oasis was more influencal than they were bollocks man u2 are THE biggest band in the world at the moment. and the chief himself always confirms this... and they were influental and still are, and they did change music and bono is a legend, yeah!! otherwise i've noticed quite a few times that some oasis fans don't like u2. probably it's the generation difference as u2 are a bit older... they're just settled down and are takin it easy - except of those ticket prices, yes i agree on that one - but their music is still fuckin amazing and if u ask me it's the same as noel and liam will be in 10 years time - except of the tickets i hope! you'll see. |
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Post by devilinhelsinki on Sept 9, 2004 16:06:34 GMT -5
Not getting my hopes up for this one, sounds WAY too good to be true. That said, as much as I'm afraid to admit it (because he called U2 shite), I may have to agree with Columbia that the fans will probably be there to see U2. It kind of sucks when that happens, it happened to me on the Oasis/Black Crowes "Tour of Brotherly Love." It was pretty clear that 95% of the audience were there for the Black Crowes. I drove over 7 hours to see Oasis, and although they were great, you can't help but feel a little disappointed in how the crowd responded, especially after seeing concert footage from "Familiar To Millions," etc.
But then again, I've only seen U2 once and it would be a nice "bonus" if Oasis were there as well. But honestly, I don't know if Liam's ego would alllow him to put on decent shows on a tour where he wasn't the headliner.
If this turns out to be true, though? Hell, I'd fly all the way to England to check it out!
Oh, and Superstar's right, U2 are the best band in the world right now. I love Oasis, and own waaaay more Oasis stuff than U2's, but there is no other living band, still making GOOD music, that is more influential than U2.
Coldplay, Radiohead, Oasis, even Rage Against The Machine have all stated U2 as being an influence.
Plus Joshua Tree? Achtung Baby? Hello? Two of the greatest albums EVER! So, yeah, I'd say they changed the face of music.
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Post by maketradefair on Sept 9, 2004 16:57:02 GMT -5
of course u2 were influencail. dont be stupid man. they've been around since the late 70's and still going strong. i think they might have influenced 1 or 2 people maby!!  |
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Post by belgallagher on Sept 9, 2004 19:13:49 GMT -5
i totally agree with eggymanos. u2 wasnt influencial and they didnt change music, or had a special style, or have a cd you can call one of the best rock n roll ones. i still like sum of their songs, but only a few. i wouldnt like to pay for an oasis gig and have a peacehead guy singing over liam (dont missunderstand me, bono does great peace stuff  ), but no, an oasis-u2 tour, no  |
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Post by Eggy on Sept 10, 2004 5:46:01 GMT -5
give me a few bands than that were influenced by u2. Is u2 a milestone for a generation?
sure, theyre big, huge, i know. BUt thats imo just because theyre mainstream at its peak. The y dont have an orininal sound i think.
Feel free to convince me...
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Post by SuperStar on Sept 10, 2004 12:42:22 GMT -5
man... oasis we're influenced by u2! maybe not the music, but there are also other things that can influence you... for example noel or liam once said after seeing a u2 gig that it was the best show he had ever seen - and i am pretty sure they're trying to give their best on every gig they play. man if that's not influence then i don't know what it is...
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Post by Alan on Sept 12, 2004 5:42:06 GMT -5
columbia,
Which U2 show did you go to see that cost £100, I must have missed that one, because I was there at one of the Elevation tour shows and that was only £40, and previous tours before that were no where near £100. And to be quite honest £40 is amazing value for the kind of show U2 put together, as Liam said it's one of the best shows he's ever seen.
The reason bands like Oasis can keep ticket prices down is nothing to do with not wanting to rip fans off etc. It's more to do with that they don't do anything special with the stage design etc, therefore they don't need to recoup as much money to make a profit.
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Post by Columbia on Sept 12, 2004 13:58:30 GMT -5
which u2 show did i see?, ha ha ha ha, me!, id never go, id rather die.
One of my colleagues at work went and she said they charged £80 for a standard ticket and £110 for a ticket to the "special area" at the front of the stage. I have no idea were the gig was.
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Post by mybigmouth on Sept 12, 2004 16:45:49 GMT -5
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Post by SuperStar on Sept 13, 2004 11:28:53 GMT -5
damn... i always knew this was about to be big!!! that's why it's taking so fucking long!
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Post by devilinhelsinki on Sept 13, 2004 13:54:49 GMT -5
Q Magazine July 1995
Noel Gallagher:
“One of the best gigs I've seen was the anti-Sellafield gig at the G-Mex with U2, Kraftwerk and Public Enemy. I'd never seen U2 before, but that night convinced me that they were probably the greatest band in the world…They [fans] slag them off because they're big, but surely you start a band off to be big. If you're going to slag U2 off for being big, then shouldn't everybody hate The Beatles?”<br>
The Simon Magazine, Jan 1, 2000
Tim Grierson on Rage Against The Machine:
You're not a genius by guessing that they tip their hat to U2 and especially Public Enemy, specifically those band's groundbreaking '80s protest period. Highly commendable influences indeed…<br>
USA Today 2/13/2003
Chris Martin of Coldplay:
The musicians he most admires — Bono, Bob Marley, Johnny Cash — approach their craft with passion and integrity. "They don't sell out, and they don't sell themselves short," Martin says. "We want to carry on that uncompromising tradition. We've learned from U2."
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Post by belgallagher on Sept 13, 2004 15:14:10 GMT -5
Q Magazine July 1995 Noel Gallagher: “One of the best gigs I've seen was the anti-Sellafield gig at the G-Mex with U2, Kraftwerk and Public Enemy. I'd never seen U2 before, but that night convinced me that they were probably the greatest band in the world…They [fans] slag them off because they're big, but surely you start a band off to be big. If you're going to slag U2 off for being big, then shouldn't everybody hate The Beatles?”<br> The Simon Magazine, Jan 1, 2000 Tim Grierson on Rage Against The Machine: You're not a genius by guessing that they tip their hat to U2 and especially Public Enemy, specifically those band's groundbreaking '80s protest period. Highly commendable influences indeed…<br> USA Today 2/13/2003 Chris Martin of Coldplay: The musicians he most admires — Bono, Bob Marley, Johnny Cash — approach their craft with passion and integrity. "They don't sell out, and they don't sell themselves short," Martin says. "We want to carry on that uncompromising tradition. We've learned from U2." you are really original, you think what others think?? I luv noel, and he luvs u2, ok, and i dont, so what?? its my problem!! |
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Post by SuperStar on Sept 13, 2004 16:35:50 GMT -5
you are really original, you think what others think?? I luv noel, and he luvs u2, ok, and i dont, so what?? its my problem!! you don't have to be original to see that u2 is a great band. and it's the biggest one at the moment. and that they influenced a lot of bands. this is a fucking fact. it's the same as with beatles! we're not saying oasis didn't influence anyone and so, we're not slagging off oasis... i also hope they will be what they were! and they were the biggest band once... times change though |
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Post by Eggy on Sept 14, 2004 3:11:31 GMT -5
they influenced a lot of bands. this is a fucking fact. it's the same as with beatles! did you guys read that? once again: Needles to say that you go way over the edge here man... |
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Post by belgallagher on Sept 14, 2004 16:39:03 GMT -5
and it's the biggest one at the moment. and that they influenced a lot of bands. this is a fucking fact. it's the same as with beatles! we're not saying oasis didn't influence anyone and so, we're not slagging off oasis... i also hope they will be what they were! and they were the biggest band once... times change though i dont get influenced by what other people like, and i dont need smb to tell me which band is a fact is big, and lets dont compare u2 with the beatles please. and another thing, i dunno if i got what u said right, you hope oasis is as big as u2 one day? what are u talkin about?? oh! and the biggest band in the moment? where?! |
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Post by devilinhelsinki on Sept 16, 2004 13:38:43 GMT -5
Okay, so I seem to have gotten involved in some sort of fight here. I normally wouldn't respond to insults and what have you, but I think that the flak I've been taking is undeserved. First of all, my posting of the quotes from those articles was not to show that they are a good band, but that they were INFLUENTIAL. Read the quotes about Coldplay and Rage. They don't say "U2 are the greatest band ever." They just talk about influence on other bands. Honestly, I justed posted them because eggymanos asked for examples of bands they have influenced. Second, I don't like U2 because Noel does. I've liked U2 before Oasis even existed. When I first heard Rattle and Hum, I was blown away and that was in 1988! And they are tons of musicians that Noel likes that I just can't get into, like Paul Weller for example (and I've never even heard of the Cheeky Girls). You guys don't like U2 and that's fine, I'm not trying to persuade you into liking them. I didn't think that anybody would read my post and go, "Oh, well you know what, after reading that, maybe I DO like U2." You can't MAKE anyone like anything. You could put a gun to my head and I still wouldn't like 99% of that shit that passes for music on the radio these days. I just posted those quotes to show that other very successful bands were influenced by them. So, no hard feelings I hope. Keep hating U2 and I'll keep liking them, no matter what Noel says. "If you could see what I could see Maybe we could all get along " |
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