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Post by mape on Aug 1, 2004 22:14:29 GMT -5
We look back not in anger, but with frank and utter incredulity. Oasis have a new album about to hit the shops and Noel Gallagher has already described it as more of the “same old pub-rock bollocks”. There’s no reason to doubt him. Over the years, the likeable Noel has been a pretty good judge of his band’s output and “same old pub-rock bollocks” is as acute a description of the Oasis oeuvre as you’re likely to get. Although Damon Albarn’s succinct and sneering “Quoasis” isn’t bad, either. What now seems incredible is that, ten years ago, we persuaded ourselves that they were the new Beatles, or close rivals to Blur, who are arguably the most interesting British band of the last 20 years, with or without Graham Coxon. Can you remember how big Oasis were, how all-conquering, back in 1994 and 1995? We were, as irritating young people from Manchester were apt to say at the time, “mad for it”. But mad for what, exactly? These days when you listen to Oasis albums, from three through to six, they seem so lumpen as to make even those dad-rock journeymen Ocean Colour Scene or the Stereophonics seem nuanced, subtle and innovative. And as for the witless mush of the second album, Noel with his bloody silly Wonderwall and all that deadly Manc whimsy and druggy dingbat philosophising . . . well, more of that later. Album No 2 — (What’s the Story) Morning Glory — was the release we got badly, very badly, wrong. ___________________________________________ this guy is peddling blur as the most interesting british band of the past 20 years? ok you know this guy is a hack - this is fish wrap quality. If you would like to have more of a laugh at this bs you can read the entire article at www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7948-1196650,00.html
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Post by jayg on Aug 2, 2004 6:13:54 GMT -5
A quote from that geezer from the times:
" and we got the appalling follow up, be here now
Ironically, having seen Oasis cast as the new Beatles, it was the hated rivals Blur who came up with the coolest Beatles pastiche of all, in the sublime beetlebum. Liam Gallagher gritted his teeth and pronounced it a brilliant single: the Oasis release at the time was the chuggingsub-Status Quo chantalong some might say. And such was the difference between the two bands...."
How can this vagina propose to write a damning review on oasis history when he cant even get his facts straight!!!!!
When blur did beetlebum oasis did DKWIM.
If it would have been some might say it would have smashed beetlebum apart. Eveyone loved some might say, even non-oasis fans. I hate it when people slag things off but they cant even get their facts straight.
I hate this person and would love to smash his testicals with a hammer!!!!!
This bloke just dont understand what oasis meant to people. I bet he fookin loved suede and radiohead and all that art crap when he was at uni. Now i bet he's into some indian/gospel/fuckin opera band who have lyrics sooo deep he's got to dig a 6 foot hole in the ground to understand them.
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Post by novascotialad on Aug 2, 2004 8:34:27 GMT -5
don't get worked up, and don't play the game... they're all haters. just don't read the shite. it ain't worth it.
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Aug 2, 2004 12:26:01 GMT -5
lol!!! i love this article
we know that this guy never listened to an oasis album but i seriously doubt that he ever listened to a blur album. the "sublime" beetlebum finds itself being featured on one of the wort albums (self-titled 'Blur') in british history (note that Song 2 is on it as well)
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Post by rob on Aug 2, 2004 14:31:30 GMT -5
its not even funny anymore..
a while i would get irate pathetic drivel (granted a couple of points are true) but now its just getting old.
i think that bitch from the sun has more idea that this guy
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Post by LIVERPUDLIAN on Aug 2, 2004 14:58:21 GMT -5
Papers like the guardian and the Times hate Oasis and what they stand for. They're staffed by and read by middle class people, mainly Southerners whereas Noel and Liam are working class Mancunians and write music designed to be enjoyed by people like them and its great stuff.
In the end, what does this mans opinion matter anyway, it won't stop any Oasis fan listening to the records...
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Post by Chris Gallagher on Aug 2, 2004 15:11:51 GMT -5
OH IT HAS WITH ME
I WENT OUT SET MY ALBUMS ON FIRE AND BOUGHT ALL THE BLUR ALBUMS AND HAD A WANK OVER DAMON ALBARN
OH YE BUT I FORGOT THAT DIDNT HAPPEN EVER
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Post by mape on Aug 2, 2004 23:08:48 GMT -5
Papers like the guardian and the Times hate Oasis and what they stand for... yeah i just read an article in the guardian praising some band called the Futureheads or something - probably moreso cos they bad mouth Oasis in it a bit... apparently they're from Sunderland....
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Post by definitleymaybe on Aug 3, 2004 8:28:33 GMT -5
This bloke just dont understand what oasis meant to people. I bet he fookin loved suede and radiohead and all that art crap when he was at uni. Now i bet he's into some indian/gospel/fuckin opera band who have lyrics sooo deep he's got to dig a 6 foot hole in the ground to understand them. no, i highly doubt he will ever understand what oasis meant, and still do mean to people. but hey, i happen to like radiohead...for different reasons than why i like oasis but still. that times article is seriously extremist!! when the hell did blur ever become a contender for the 'best band in the past 20 years'? fuckin never, its just one guys single opinion which i'd prefer (but cant stop) he didnt have to publish and try to impose (unsuccessfully) onto us all. i mean at least with oasis, even if there is opposition, there would be more people likely to back up that sort of title.
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Post by jayg on Aug 3, 2004 9:09:54 GMT -5
but hey, i happen to like radiohead...for different reasons than why i like oasis but still. . Fair enough. to be honest i really used to like radiohead and still think theyre MUSIC is ok, but im becoming more and more critical if these so called intellectual musicians who mix music and politics and think that fame is a platform to express there strong political beliefs. Dont get me wrong, i dont mind celebrities who express there views for charity relief but i am becoming more and more suspisious of celebrities who use their position to express there political agenda. IMO
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Post by Tomo on Aug 3, 2004 12:49:55 GMT -5
I think of it this way:
Oasis: Good time rock n roll band. You can listen to this with your mates and get pissed and basically have a good time. Lifes shit so we may aswell enjoy it.
Radiohead: Political indie band. Listen to them moaning about things I couldn't give two fucks about. Such as Thom Yorke moaning about the Iraq war. listen Thom, no matter how much you hate the war.....Its gonna happen and it has happened. Deal with it you sad twat.
The worlds a fucked up place so I listen to Oasis so I can forget about all the shit and plus its brilliant music.
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Post by rob on Aug 3, 2004 13:33:57 GMT -5
"Blur, who are arguably the most interesting British band of the last 20 years, with or without Graham Coxon"
without graham coxan they produced that pile of shit of an album "thinktank". Its coxan who now carries on the old blur sound on his suprisingly good latest solo album.
Albarn should have stayed put in his cartoon band.
"gorillaz" wasnt it?
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Post by nicklennon on Aug 4, 2004 5:41:21 GMT -5
Most Interesting Band in Last 20 years MY ARSE
What the fook about The Smiths and The Roses
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 4, 2004 10:48:31 GMT -5
guys, don't all gang up on radiohead. after all, they came out with 'ok computer,' one of the strongest albums of the 1990s. just because they use their fame for their political view doesn't make their music bad. except hail to the thief.
reminds me of u2. great band, great music. they used their fame for political points and views. bono was in africa last year helping out.
does anybody remember boomtown rats singer/pink floyd the wall star (one of my fave movies EVER) bob geldof? he raised public awareness to the needy in africa and because of it he organized live aid. the dvd is coming out very soon, but no zep.
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Post by Tomo on Aug 4, 2004 11:03:44 GMT -5
Geldof is the only one who seems to have done anything practical i.e. live aid. Thom Yorke just fuckin moans in interviews, he doesn't actually do anything to try and stop these things hes on about.
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Post by rob on Aug 4, 2004 11:28:42 GMT -5
lol, fucking miserable ginger dwarf
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Post by mybigmouth on Aug 6, 2004 5:05:37 GMT -5
agree with Tomo. Best band in the last 20 years? They have got to be havin a laugh. Graham Coxton? balls to him and everythin.
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Post by webm@ster on Aug 8, 2004 17:56:40 GMT -5
" Wonderwall and all that deadly Manc whimsy and druggy dingbat philosophising " I have to make that my new sig in the time's twats memory
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Post by webm@ster on Aug 8, 2004 18:05:19 GMT -5
another great line from the same article :
Have you heard the new Wilco album? It’s awful, truly awful. But the praise of the critics still adheres.
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Post by holdonecho on Aug 10, 2004 4:41:33 GMT -5
I'm from Canada so I don't know about the blue collar north vs white collar south stuff...but this is what i do know...
that radiohead has made one great album (the bends) and that although ok computer sounds amazing i am unable to get through it all in one sitting.
that damon the gorilla'z shining moment was when he basked in the glory that was his ex'z Justine's first album with Elastica.
that John Lennon's worst album was his most overtly political (Sometime in NYC)
that if you want political albums you should try Randy Newman's Good Old Boys or Sly's There's A Riot Going On
that in this politically correct day and age with Thommy and Mr Paltrow whinning about free trade and stopping the war it is refreshing to hear Noel and Liam spouting out whatever comes to mind
that whenever i burn a mixed cd for the car i tend to put five or six oasis songs on it and then normally skip past the others to listen to them.
Why should we follow the political advice of rock stars? Should I phone up my mayor and ask him to recommend a movie? Perhaps I'll visit my doctor and have him take a look under the hood of my car.
Coming soon to a record store near you... Saddams in Dat Hole by George W and the HairyBush
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