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Post by shoes222 on Jul 6, 2011 17:06:14 GMT -5
And Live Forever isn't even a hard song to sing other than the high part in the chorus.
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Post by spaneli on Jul 6, 2011 17:06:42 GMT -5
He couldn't even keep FA in the proper key. There is no way. Liam'd butcher it like he has been most 90's Oasis tunes since HC. i don't think here he butcher it ,don't you think? Yeah. I might. He didn't butcher it, but it didn't sound very good either. He sounds much better with the crowd singing with him. The crowd really helped him out. imo
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 6, 2011 17:08:12 GMT -5
[quote author=gdforever board=factsandfiction thread=67127 post=864748 time=1309989133 [/quote]
He couldn't even keep FA in the proper key. There is no way.
Liam'd butcher it like he has been most 90's Oasis tunes since HC.[/quote]
I agree he struggles big time with For Anyone, but that is a pretty hard song to sing or to sing it as well as he does on the record. Live Forever is an easier song to sing among other Oasis songs so I still disagree with you. The man deserves credit for his performances with Beady Eye. Much better live vocals and more consistent than the last two Oasis tours.
I know you love Noel [obvious] and he's IMO probably the best songwriter ever and I'm also looking forward to his album but I think you should stop kissing the man's arse.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 17:12:57 GMT -5
[quote author=gdforever board=factsandfiction thread=67127 post=864748 time=1309989133 He couldn't even keep FA in the proper key. There is no way. Liam'd butcher it like he has been most 90's Oasis tunes since HC.[/quote] I agree he struggles big time with For Anyone, but that is a pretty hard song to sing or to sing it as well as he does on the record. Live Forever is an easier song to sing among other Oasis songs so I still disagree with you. The man deserves credit for his performances with Beady Eye. Much better live vocals and more consistent than the last two Oasis tours. I know you love Noel [obvious] and he's IMO probably the best songwriter ever and I'm also looking forward to his album but I think you should stop kissing the man's arse. [/quote] I'm not kissing Noel ass. It has nothing to do with Noel. Liam has struggled with that song for years. Even if by miracle he could sing THAT one...he's been butchering so many others compared to his 90's self for so long. I don't believe he could put on a truly great Oasis performance. And if it ain't gonna be great. What's the point?
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Post by spaneli on Jul 6, 2011 17:14:08 GMT -5
[quote author=gdforever board=factsandfiction thread=67127 post=864748 time=1309989133 He couldn't even keep FA in the proper key. There is no way. Liam'd butcher it like he has been most 90's Oasis tunes since HC.[/quote] I agree he struggles big time with For Anyone, but that is a pretty hard song to sing or to sing it as well as he does on the record. Live Forever is an easier song to sing among other Oasis songs so I still disagree with you. The man deserves credit for his performances with Beady Eye. Much better live vocals and more consistent than the last two Oasis tours. I know you love Noel [obvious] and he's IMO probably the best songwriter ever and I'm also looking forward to his album but I think you should stop kissing the man's arse. [/quote] The fact remains that toward the end of Oasis, Liam still struggled with singing Live Forever, which is a pretty easy Oasis song to sing. Can you really see him singing Live Forever in a stadium? I'm not saying that it's not possible, but it's not likely either. Liam has done great with Beady Eye. It is true. His voice sounds much better. But the plain fact of the matter is that he's playing in smaller venues with songs that were purely built around his voice.
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Post by Fiennes on Jul 6, 2011 17:17:05 GMT -5
Noel simply fell out of love with Oasis and the prospect of a solo album was giving him a hard on. He could've put Oasis on hold to do just that. I find it difficult to judge on what really led Noel to leave. He had walked out of oasis before, they had had fights in the past but he never had the intention of leaving for good. That he felt tired lately it was clear, that he wanted to do a solo project etc, but perhaps putting Oasis on hold for a while was really what he had in mind if nothing had happened that night. But Liam going mental that night plus his lack of enthusiasm at the time may have changed his mind. Maybe that's also why he regrets leaving that way, if he is to be believed. Since I started listening to Liam in his BDI interviews he almost convinced me that Noel just needed a pretext to leave, but maybe that night was actually what changed a likely break from oasis into a permanent split. I change my mind often on this though
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 6, 2011 17:20:32 GMT -5
What the fuck are talking about spaneli? Small venues? If anything that should expose his voice more. The Roller, for example is as easy or as hard as Live Forever to sing. It probably is harder because there's more key changes and he has nailed The Roller quite a few times, so what would be the difference??
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Post by oasisfanboy on Jul 6, 2011 17:24:04 GMT -5
I'm not kissing Noel ass. It has nothing to do with Noel. Ha! Come on gdf - please don't deny that your posts on the board are not informed by your need to kiss Noel's ass. You spend all day (and we really mean ALLLL day) defending him!
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Post by spaneli on Jul 6, 2011 17:25:36 GMT -5
What the fuck are talking about spaneli? Small venues? If anything that should expose his voice more. The Roller, for example is as easy or as hard as Live Forever to sing. It probably is harder because there's more key changes and he has nailed The Roller quite a few times, so what would be the difference?? No. Playing in a small venue would not expose him more. How is him playing in smaller venue where he doesn't have to strain to project his voice suppose to expose him? You proved my point by saying he has succeeded with the Roller. He has succeeded in a smaller venue. Could he play the Roller in a stadium? Could he be able to project in a larger venue? I don't know. Which is why I said in a smaller venue he might be able to pull off Live Forever. Don't see what's so hard with that .
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 6, 2011 17:37:14 GMT -5
What the fuck are talking about spaneli? Small venues? If anything that should expose his voice more. The Roller, for example is as easy or as hard as Live Forever to sing. It probably is harder because there's more key changes and he has nailed The Roller quite a few times, so what would be the difference?? No. Playing in a small venue would not expose him more. How is him playing in smaller venue where he doesn't have to strain to project his voice suppose to expose him? You proved my point by saying he has succeeded with the Roller. He has succeeded in a smaller venue. Could he play the Roller in a stadium? Could he be able to project in a larger venue? I don't know. Which is why I said in a smaller venue he might be able to pull off Live Forever. Don't see what's so hard with that . I still disagree and it's a myth about having to 'shout' in a stadium. Whilst the vocalist can hear himself he should be okay. Just turn him up, they seemed to be afraid to do that in recent years with Oasis, probably because his voice had deteriorated or maybe it was down to Noel's guitar being too loud? Who the fuck knows? But without doubt he has improved, and improved enough to give stellar performance in a stadium, singing Oasis tunes.
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Post by MacaRonic on Jul 6, 2011 17:38:58 GMT -5
I'm not kissing Noel ass. It has nothing to do with Noel. Ha! Come on gdf - please don't deny that your posts on the board are not informed by your need to kiss Noel's ass. You spend all day (and we really mean ALLLL day) defending him! Thank you GlastoEls.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 6, 2011 17:50:01 GMT -5
i don't think here he butcher it ,don't you think? Yeah. I might. He didn't butcher it, but it didn't sound very good either. He sounds much better with the crowd singing with him. The crowd really helped him out. imo That was also 6 years ago.
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Post by GIMH on Jul 7, 2011 6:30:00 GMT -5
Liam sounds better when you're at the gig than he does on bootlegs, I reckon. And that's all that matters.
Of course I'd love to see them one last time, and I'd know it would be the last time and could savour every last second of it. I wouldn't even care if Liam just rapped all the songs just to get that opportunity one more time.
They are the band I have loved for well over half my life and I'll always miss them, however much I enjoy their other projects.
But I probably agree with the OP - done.
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Post by start at the end on Jul 7, 2011 10:24:08 GMT -5
Yeah, sounds better cuz 90% of the crowd are a dozen barley pops deep.
Like the bootlegs (or pro recordings for that matter) are inherently biased, lol.
Yet another thread where a scant few end up defending Liam's atrocity of a voice that's occasionally serviceable.
Enjoy your BDI.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 7, 2011 12:02:28 GMT -5
what in god's name has happened to the format of this thread?
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jul 7, 2011 18:02:51 GMT -5
I think Oasis is almost done. It's done with releasing new stuff, I mean, it won't be a new Oasis' album for sure. Anyway I still think they will be doing gigs together someday. Maybe in 2 years, maybe in 8... who knows.
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