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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jul 6, 2011 9:09:12 GMT -5
Noel Gallagher has announced details of not one, but two new albums. The first, Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds, will be released on October 17. The record will feature 10 new tracks including the long-gestating Stop The Clocks and (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine and was recorded in London and Los Angeles during 2010 and the first half of this year. A second as-yet-untitled LP has been recorded with Noel's psychedelic chums in The Amorphous Androgynous and is set to appear next summer. Speaking at a press conference in West London this morning, Noel - dressed in regulation black leather jacket and jeans - also detailed the events leading up to the break-up of Oasis two dates before the end of their last tour in August 2009. "It all started when he [Liam] started his clothing label [Pretty Green]. He demanded that he could advertise in the Oasis tour programme. I didn't think it was right that he was flogging his gear to our fans. It kind of went back and forth a bit, and then I said, 'Right then, how much?' He couldn't get his head 'round that. It slowly went down hill from there." Noel then went on to explain exactly what happened that fateful night before a gig in Paris. "The night in Paris... Liam didn't turn up for the V Festival. Because he had a hangover. He said he had laryngitis, but whatever. There was a lot of press around that and in his head I'm the puppet master of all the media in England. So we get to Paris and he's reeling off journalists names... and he was quite violent. There hadn't been any physical violence up until that point. "I'll never forget... I'm looking at Andy [Bell] and he's constantly counting how many shoes he's got on. And he didn't say anything. Liam stormed out of the dressing room and on the way out - and I'm glad it never ended like this - he picked up a plum. And threw it across the dressing room and it smashed against the wall. Now part of me wishes it kind of did end like that because that would have been a fucking great headline: 'Plum Throws Plum And Finishes Rock'n'Roll Band'. So then he leaves. For whatever reason he went back to his own dressing room, picked up a guitar and started wielding it like an axe. It was a real unnecessary violent act. So he's swinging this guitar around... he nearly took my face off, you know? It ended up on the floor and I put it out of its misery. "There were people in the band who were there and weren't saying anything. We were all involved in it and nobody was saying anything. So I said, 'Do you know what, I'm out of here'. And at that point, the tour manager comes in and goes, 'Five minutes'... I walked out and I've got to apologise to Chas Smash from Madness here because he came by and I might have told him to fuck off." On to the next chapter in the Noel Gallagher story and what we can expect from his new music: "The High Flying Birds record... people who are fans of what I do will hear echoes of Oasis. But there isn't a guitar solo on the record until the sixth track. It's not very Guitar Hero." High Flying Birds was recorded with his old studio mainstays Jeremy and Paul 'Strangeboy' Stacey, sometime Oasis keyboardist Mikey Rowe, Zutons' bassist Russell Pritchard and double bass, saw, wine glasses, washboard and 'electric kettle' specialist Mark Neary. "The other album... it's fucking far out man. It's got 18 tracks on it, some of it's vaudeville, some of it's actual space jazz, some of it's krautrock, some it's soul, some of it's funk. And that's just the first song. It's the farthest out I've ever been." Here's the full tracklisting for ...High Flying Birds: Everybody's On The Run Dream On If I Had A Gun... The Death Of You And Me (I Wanna Live In A Dream In My) Record Machine Aka... What A Life! Soldier Boys And Jesus Freaks Aka... Broken Arrow (Stranded On) The Wrong Beach Stop The Clocks Noel Gallagher will begin his next UK tour in Dublin on October 23. You'll be able to view the entire press conference via www.noelgallagher.com later today. And what of Liam's response to all this? Well, after last night's comment from the stage at Camden's Roundhouse ("Are you ready for the party political broadcast tomorrow? Are you? Well, we like rock 'n' roll") he sent out a one-word tweet this afternoon. It simply reads: 'SHITBAG'. |
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Post by novascotialad on Jul 6, 2011 9:14:33 GMT -5
yeah just watched the clip on youtube...i guess everyone that said noel and andy didn't get on were right.....
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Post by Rifles on Jul 6, 2011 9:28:05 GMT -5
Very interesting stuff from Noel in both clips that are up so far. Very honest take on being a front man and stuff. It's statements like those why I tend to believe him more. It's better to say "it remains to be seen whether i'm better off without him" as opposed to "yeah of course i'm better off without him, fuck him".
Can't wait to watch the whole thing.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jul 6, 2011 9:28:42 GMT -5
lost a lot of respect for andy bell as well.
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Post by bonkers on Jul 6, 2011 9:31:40 GMT -5
be intresting to see if Andy responds to this
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Post by idledreamer on Jul 6, 2011 9:33:01 GMT -5
"The High Flying Birds record... people who are fans of what I do will hear echoes of Oasis. But there isn't a guitar solo on the record until the sixth track.
so no guitar solo on 'record machine' then.
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Post by novascotialad on Jul 6, 2011 9:34:44 GMT -5
andy will respond in the same fashion he responds to everything...by looking down at the floor then turning to gem...
i'm not bothered, never really cared for andy anyway... i don't mean that in a bad way or anything, he was always just a bit...invisable
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 9:35:33 GMT -5
He was pretty well considered...more than he usually is. I understand his statement more now...I think we all do.
It's actually shocking to see him so subdued...he's obviously been thinking about this for a long time...about what he shoudl say. And he used lots of qualifiers, "how I remember it" etc. Which is also weird from Noel.
Noel's smashed guitar was obviously not part of the arguement...instead just vengence by Liam after Noel left.
I wonder if the press conference was partially so he could tell the story once for all the british press especially. Tell it properly and then hope that the promo wouldn't be swallowed by Oasis' demise
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 9:41:45 GMT -5
lost a lot of respect for andy bell as well. For once I agree. I wonder where Gem was. He wasn't mentioned. If Gem was there why was Andy's lack of action more menaingful than Gems? As Noel told the story he actually still seemed angry with Andy. Not exactly angry at Liam...more shaken than angry. |
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Post by Rifles on Jul 6, 2011 9:52:31 GMT -5
Hard to say why he would single out Andy in his story. Maybe Andy had spoken to Noel privately about Liam at some point so Noel expected more from him in that situation? We know Gem is everyone's friend so I doubt anyone would expect him to jump into a controversy like that. There must have been something between Andy and Noel for him to be singled out. I don't know why else Noel would look to Andy for action in that scenario...especially since Andy is notorious for doing absolutely nothing.
The interesting tidbit to me after hearing of the crazy Liam outburst....it now probably sheds quite a bit of light on Liam's recent admission to laying off the booze since January. I wouldn't be surprised if management has forced him to stop drinking for the tour to avoid any potential issues. Noel always said throughout the years that Liam was pretty cool sober, but once he had a beer he was a lunatic.
Noel was fairly somber throughout his explanation. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to avoid the topic in future interviews. We'll see. It's going to be really interesting to see Liam's next interview and all the back and forth that's bound to happen between the 2.
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Post by novascotialad on Jul 6, 2011 9:56:51 GMT -5
i just hope it doesn't turn into a shitslinging affair via the press and twitter ffs.... i like both liam and noel... if liam get into a war of words with his brother he's gonna come out looking like a real knuckle dragger lmao
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:00:24 GMT -5
Its always difficult stepping between brothers, impossible in some cases and unless your saving someone from a hospital visit its best not to get involved. Liam and Noel shouldn't really expect anyone to be become entangled in there problems.
And while we know Liam has thrown some punches down the years lets not forget that Noel hit him with a cricket bat. They are brothers they do fight, and from my experience of brothers it doesn't matter whether they are 5 years old or 45 years.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:05:25 GMT -5
Its always difficult stepping between brothers, impossible in some cases and unless your saving someone from a hospital visit its best not to get involved. Liam and Noel shouldn't really expect anyone to be become entangled in there problems. And while we know Liam has thrown some punches down the years lets not forget that Noel hit him with a cricket bat. They are brothers they do fight, and from my experience of brothers it doesn't matter whether they are 5 years old or 45 years. Those weren't brother issues. Those were band issues. PG, V-festival, bad press. It was the lead singer and the lead guitarist. You don't get to sit out 'cause it's easier. It's not like they TRIED and couldn't. They sat and did nothing. The cricket bat thing was years ago when they were on drugs...and Liam bring back drunks could be qualified and a sibling disturbance. 2000 - the insult about Anais...also a sibling thing. This one was a band thing apparently. If they didn't step in for that then Oasis wasn't a band anyways. They joined Oasis...it may not have been comfortable but you don't get to sit out band turmoil about band issues |
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jul 6, 2011 10:06:18 GMT -5
After watching the video where Noel explains the reason for Oasis spliting up I can't believe at some point I was so dumb to believe Liam's version of the story... I really bought that shit but now I think it's clear we have Liam's version and then the truth which is narrated by Noel..
Most of the people here thought Noel's statement on oasisinet was bullshit, I thought it also, but now I think it wasn't at all...
I've lost lot of respect for Andy even I didn't had much actually but you can't forget Gem was also in the band and he neither did nothing.
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:07:32 GMT -5
Where was Gem? Why isn't Noel mad at him?
Maybe Gem stepped in @ other times but Andy never did? Maybe Gem was out of the room?
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:08:03 GMT -5
You would be foolish to buy completely into either version of events.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:10:20 GMT -5
Its always difficult stepping between brothers, impossible in some cases and unless your saving someone from a hospital visit its best not to get involved. Liam and Noel shouldn't really expect anyone to be become entangled in there problems. And while we know Liam has thrown some punches down the years lets not forget that Noel hit him with a cricket bat. They are brothers they do fight, and from my experience of brothers it doesn't matter whether they are 5 years old or 45 years. Those weren't brother issues. Those were band issues. PG, V-festival, bad press. It was the lead singer and the lead guitarist. You don't get to sit out 'cause it's easier. It's not like they TRIED and couldn't. They sat and did nothing. The cricket bat thing was years ago when they were on drugs...and Liam bring back drunks could be qualified and a sibling disturbance. 2000 - the insult about Anais...also a sibling thing. This one was a band thing apparently. If they didn't step in for that then Oasis wasn't a band anyways. They joined Oasis...it may not have been comfortable but you don't get to sit out band turmoil about band issues They are always brother issues ffs. By virtue of being brothers it can add spice to the smallest arguments so to dismiss that is foolish indeed. Oh Noel was on drugs, thats ok then. |
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Post by LlAM on Jul 6, 2011 10:14:32 GMT -5
Milly Vanilly......  |
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Post by novascotialad on Jul 6, 2011 10:15:36 GMT -5
i think you're right tom
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Post by bonkers on Jul 6, 2011 10:17:17 GMT -5
well andy did jump into lake como with liam straight after the split so he was clearly liam's bumchum
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:17:26 GMT -5
The thing is...the key point is mutually exclusive. They both agree there was yelling and broken guitars. Liam says is wasn't that bad. Noel seems shaken even talking about it...which leads me to think this was different. Maybe Noel was more freaked out by that behavior than he used to be...maybe it was worse than in recent times (since they've been clean)
Do you think Noel left because he desired Oasis to be over and longed for a solo career? Or did he leave because he was miserable in the band personally?
The question is...were the events of that night and that tour enough to make Noel want to leave Oasis? IMO, yes.
I believe that he didn't want a whole solo career that badly. I think he liked having a band to come back to.
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Post by icebreath on Jul 6, 2011 10:20:17 GMT -5
You would be foolish to buy completely into either version of events. +100000 |
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Post by kimallenbewick on Jul 6, 2011 10:21:26 GMT -5
The thing is...the key points are mutually exclusive Do you think Noel left because he desired Oasis to be over and longed for a solo career? Or did he leave because he was miserable in the band personally? The question is...were the events of that night and that tour enough to make Noel want to leave Oasis? IMO, yes. I believe that he didn't want a whole solo career that badly. I think he liked having a band to come back to. Sure. That thing Liam said about Noel creating an excuse to start a solo career is shit. Liam's the one creating excuses to hide what happened that night actually and the other two, who know the truth, say nothing... It's sad. |
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Post by gdforever on Jul 6, 2011 10:23:28 GMT -5
Those weren't brother issues. Those were band issues. PG, V-festival, bad press. It was the lead singer and the lead guitarist. You don't get to sit out 'cause it's easier. It's not like they TRIED and couldn't. They sat and did nothing. The cricket bat thing was years ago when they were on drugs...and Liam bring back drunks could be qualified and a sibling disturbance. 2000 - the insult about Anais...also a sibling thing. This one was a band thing apparently. If they didn't step in for that then Oasis wasn't a band anyways. They joined Oasis...it may not have been comfortable but you don't get to sit out band turmoil about band issues They are always brother issues ffs. By virtue of being brothers it can add spice to the smallest arguments so to dismiss that is foolish indeed. Oh Noel was on drugs, thats ok then. THEY were young. THEY were on drugs. They are 36/41 year old men now. Swinging a guitar at someones head when you are in your mid 30's? Give me a break? What world do you live in. The cricket bat was funny because they both reached for it. Do you think Noel was going for a guitar to do the same to Liam @ the time? No. How were PG, V-festival, and bad press a brotherly problem? And what is a band problem? Andy and Gem should never have had an opinion on anything? |
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Post by bonkers on Jul 6, 2011 10:23:28 GMT -5
to be honest i think being a frontman kinda scares Noel, as he said he could stand there with his guitar and let liam get on with that, i think he really wanted Oasiz to carry on but he did want to do his own thing
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