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Post by aitealan on Jun 17, 2011 8:51:49 GMT -5
Hey all,
As you all know, Beady Eye are sucking at the charts. I know they have a huge following, as well. But I now like to think that their fans are true fans, and they have millions of them world-wide...Which is so much better. Not some random idiots who sit and listen to crap from the top 40.
But, I think Noel's stuff, for some reason, will do REALLY well in the charts and the devouted Oasis followers. It's just a gut feeling. Does anyone think this, too?
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jun 17, 2011 9:44:40 GMT -5
Never, without some proper promotion.
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Post by deadman on Jun 17, 2011 11:46:48 GMT -5
Ask yourself how many 40-something year old artists get into high positions in the UK singles charts these days (or any days, come to think of it). Unless there's a fundamental shift in buying habits and taste, then Oasis/Beady Eye/Noel Gallagher's era of consistent top 10's are well and truly over, and only the naive or deluded would think otherwise. The only way that could change in the short term, is if any of them made a suitable enough record to licence out to TV adverts or movies, similar to what Moby did a few years ago. Or, obviously, if they come out with an absolutely bona fide classic of the ages.
Even in the 2000's, the ONLY reason Oasis singles hit the top 10 is because fans brought the CD copies of the single to get the new b-sides. These days, anyone can buy the b-sides separately. All those chart eligible sales have just disappeared almost totally, and chart positions now are a more accurate reflection of the true popularity of that particular single.
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Post by bonkers on Jun 17, 2011 12:10:24 GMT -5
unless Noel does a video where he is grinding up against some whores whilst pretending to snort cocaine and singing about lady lumps and mens lollypops, i really cant see him having major (single) chart success
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 17, 2011 13:20:00 GMT -5
Whilst I imagine Noel will chart higher than Paul Weller / Ian Brown, I can't see him having any major impact in the grand scheme of things.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jun 17, 2011 14:07:46 GMT -5
^With all due respect to a great artist, I don't think comparing Noel to Ian Brown is fair. Oasis were a lot bigger than the Stone Roses and I'm sure Noel is a better songwriter.
On topic, the only "old" artists that get high into the charts are bands that have existed for a few years - U2, REM, Oasis before they split. BDI don't have the bonus of being an established rock act, their music isn't fashionable right now, and they have been lacking real hit singles so far - I don't expect them to chart better in the future tbh.
What Noel will do is a mystery. Who knows what songs he has up his sleeve...he could fare as well as other songwriters after their bands split up (Lennon, McCartney etc.) or he could manage to return to mainstream success....but I doubt that.
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Post by sunshheeeyine on Jun 17, 2011 15:09:07 GMT -5
Its weird, Liams on always about wanting to be in the biggest band in the world yet he claims to not care about the charts. Back when Oasis were at their peak all their tunes were in the top 3 in the charts. If he wishes to achive being the best he should think about making more of an effort (promotion, CD singles etc) . In a nutshell he should know by now that the way his bands percieved is shown in the charts.
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Post by rcknrollstar on Jun 17, 2011 15:58:54 GMT -5
Its weird, Liams on always about wanting to be in the biggest band in the world yet he claims to not care about the charts. Back when Oasis were at their peak all their tunes were in the top 3 in the charts. If he wishes to achive being the best he should think about making more of an effort (promotion, CD singles etc) . In a nutshell he should know by now that the way his bands percieved is shown in the charts. Liam claims to be in the best band in the world, not the biggest. There's a difference. Being good means you have good songs. You can be a big band, but it doesn't mean you have great songs. Also, charts no longer represent the best music. It's basically a list of the most popular music. Especially nowadays, with all the shite being in there. It's definitely not good music. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 17, 2011 17:19:17 GMT -5
Its weird, Liams on always about wanting to be in the biggest band in the world yet he claims to not care about the charts. Back when Oasis were at their peak all their tunes were in the top 3 in the charts. If he wishes to achive being the best he should think about making more of an effort (promotion, CD singles etc) . In a nutshell he should know by now that the way his bands percieved is shown in the charts. Liam claims to be in the best band in the world, not the biggest. There's a difference. Being good means you have good songs. You can be a big band, but it doesn't mean you have great songs. Also, charts no longer represent the best music. It's basically a list of the most popular music. Especially nowadays, with all the shite being in there. It's definitely not good music. This. Would you really call the likes of Ke$ha the biggest/best just because she charts with her bubble gum idiot pop? I don't think so. If Liam (or Noel, too, for that matter) ever caved in order to simply acquiesced their career to the charts, I would lose so much respect for them. That would be called selling out. As Liam once said, it's not about selling records, it's about being real. |
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Post by lastfanstanding on Jun 17, 2011 18:30:48 GMT -5
Beady Eye and the Barts would make a great second album title.
Nothin but Bart quotes sung over different variations of the theme song.
An a cappella added in for good measure.
Sure to bring the house down.
Make it happ'n gents.
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Post by spaneli on Jun 17, 2011 20:55:52 GMT -5
On topic, the only "old" artists that get high into the charts are bands that have existed for a few years - U2, REM, Oasis before they split. BDI don't have the bonus of being an established rock act, their music isn't fashionable right now, and they have been lacking real hit singles so far - I don't expect them to chart better in the future tbh. What Noel will do is a mystery. Who knows what songs he has up his sleeve...he could fare as well as other songwriters after their bands split up (Lennon, McCartney etc.) or he could manage to return to mainstream success....but I doubt that. Completely agree.  |
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Post by BlueJay on Jun 18, 2011 12:32:39 GMT -5
I stand by what the great John Squire once said - "Music is a young man's game", and Noel knows this all too well.
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Jun 18, 2011 13:47:51 GMT -5
All the people I know who are interested in music, but are no Oasis fans, think Noel was the only one with real talent in the band. According to them, Noel's the smart, funny one and Liam the dumb, annoying brother.
I'm not saying they're 100% correct, but I can guarantee you that Noel's album will sell at least 10 times as much as Beady Eye, since he is respected a whole lot more within the music community.
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Post by spaneli on Jun 18, 2011 13:53:43 GMT -5
All the people I know who are interested in music, but are no Oasis fans, think Noel was the only one with real talent in the band. According to them, Noel's the smart, funny one and Liam the dumb, annoying brother. I'm not saying they're 100% correct, but I can guarantee you that Noel's album will sell at least 10 times as much as Beady Eye, since he is respected a whole lot more within the music community. 10 times.  I think it may sell a bit more, but 10 times? On a side note: has anyone seen what wikipeida has for the total album sales for DGSS? They have it at 1.5 mill. world wide. Probably a lie of a number that has been inflated by Oasis fan boys, but could anyone verify this. |
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Post by Mad4it on Jun 18, 2011 20:46:36 GMT -5
All the people I know who are interested in music, but are no Oasis fans, think Noel was the only one with real talent in the band. According to them, Noel's the smart, funny one and Liam the dumb, annoying brother. I'm not saying they're 100% correct, but I can guarantee you that Noel's album will sell at least 10 times as much as Beady Eye, since he is respected a whole lot more within the music community. 10 times. I think it may sell a bit more, but 10 times? On a side note: has anyone seen what wikipeida has for the total album sales for DGSS? They have it at 1.5 mill. world wide. Probably a lie of a number that has been inflated by Oasis fan boys, but could anyone verify this. 1.5million is an utter joke.... it has barely done more than 300,000 WW rough sales in some countries 130k Uk 65k Japan 20k USA 20k Italy other countries like france, netherlands, spain, ireland together would no way be more than 50k combined . |
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Post by billslidesaway on Jun 19, 2011 0:10:05 GMT -5
Can't speak for anything but the U.S. charts, but if you're a Rock band, your days of charting singles in the U.S., have long been over. Its all dance music, hip-hop, and R&B. Rock-n-roll has been dead here for quite some time, at least in terms of charting and getting air play on pop radio.
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Post by space75gr on Jun 20, 2011 4:14:07 GMT -5
beady eye is still one of the most successfull rock bands of the year in the charts.
in the year that every rock/alternative band/artist released an album its hard to find anything by all these acts in the charts.
i d love to see DGSS selling more and stay in the top 40 but its so really hard for a rock album to make it.i hope summer gigs to make it come back in the charts.
btw, even the new coldplay single with all the promotion , the huge sales of their last album n singles, their huge pop fanbase didnt make it...i mean only top 10 and secon week at 22...
and not to forget...charts or no charts i m really happy for DGSS and all those beady eye songs and offers.n thats what really matters to me
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