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Post by SOULDIGGER on Jun 11, 2011 11:26:42 GMT -5
Playing Second Fiddle to Coldplay at heineken festival.
A Day Slot.
Poor clueless crowd reaction
Watching Coldplay (who I don't like) blow the crowd away like Oasis would've done and definitely closed the show.
I truely feel that this will be a low point for Beady Eye's Tour. The States aren't as mad for beady eye as Europe and the band isn't Headlining all the festivals. They really lack the anthems a stadium needs. Now the band could potentially go out and write an album with a few big tunes but realistically I believe that somewhere deep inside Liam Lastnight at the heineken festival he Must have been saying "Fuck I wish I was Singing Oasis tunes right Now and Closing this fuckin show not these fuckin coldplay lads". From the videos I've seen the crowd wasn't even reacting to "Beady Eye". If it was Oasis they wouldve been hands in the Air fuckin Mad ferret. Liam felt it yesterday. I don't care what anyone says and trust me....it bothered him at least a bit and maybe a lot.
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Post by BEng on Jun 11, 2011 11:40:12 GMT -5
Yeah watched some vids from that festival, and the reactions weren't that enthusiastic. But that's only because they're a new band and not a lot of people know their tunes yet. Like here on The Roller, the crowd seemed more pleased. The only reason that is, is because it probably received some radio airplay there And it has to be said, this video proves that when you're in the crowd, the band (and liam) are sounding really good!!
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Jun 11, 2011 12:05:50 GMT -5
Liam wants to be the best. This can only be achieved in Oasis. I don't mind BDI but it can't happen in that Band.
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Post by gdforever on Jun 11, 2011 12:24:10 GMT -5
It'll do him good. It'll do Noel good too to see what life is like for the other 99% of the music business that never reach the stratosphere that Oasis reached almost immediately. It'll do then some good to have to work for it.
Hopefully it'll give them an appreciation for they had in Oasis.
It is true that it'll give BDI a more realistic view of their place. The fans at the gigs have been super supportive from what they've said. As mad-for-it as Oasis fans are (they should be because they are Oasis fans) but that isn't the general attitude of the rest of the world. It's only realistic...and it'll give them the impetus to really put their all into the second album and not take their for off the gas. Not that I think they would've been lazy otherwise.
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Post by bonkers on Jun 11, 2011 12:53:01 GMT -5
if anything Beady Eye festival wise is going the same way as Oasis started, mid slots and the occasional under headliner slot. probably brings back memories for liam, he may even like it, he can go on stage and do his thing then come off get pissed and watch the other bands
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Post by gdforever on Jun 11, 2011 13:24:34 GMT -5
if anything Beady Eye festival wise is going the same way as Oasis started, mid slots and the occasional under headliner slot. probably brings back memories for liam, he may even like it, he can go on stage and do his thing then come off get pissed and watch the other bands They have the same kind of slots but I doubt the vibe around his own is nearly the same.
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jun 11, 2011 13:41:46 GMT -5
i'm sure Liam realized it's not the same at the beginning of the tour when his paychecks for shows were about a quarter of what they used to be.
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Post by Noel_ on Jun 11, 2011 14:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by Silence Dogood on Jun 11, 2011 14:18:07 GMT -5
at least he's sounding better on that video.... and for the record, i think Liam already knew it wasn't quite the same as Oasis.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2011 15:49:57 GMT -5
at least he's sounding better on that video.... and for the record, i think Liam already knew it wasn't quite the same as Oasis. Exactly, its not rocket science. There seems to be a weird belief on here that people have considered all sorts of thoughts and possibillities that Liam would to be much to thick to have ever entertained.
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Post by gdforever on Jun 11, 2011 16:05:22 GMT -5
at least he's sounding better on that video.... and for the record, i think Liam already knew it wasn't quite the same as Oasis. Exactly, its not rocket science. There seems to be a weird belief on here that people have considered all sorts of thoughts and possibillities that Liam would to be much to thick to have ever entertained. Oh I think he knew. But there is a difference between knowing this intellectually and seeing it practically. They've been playing to their own crowds thus far, Oasis crowds. Crowds invested in the band. They may be smaller gigs...but the crowds have seemed as up for it as many Oasis crowds. These will be the first gigs played to people who were necessarily big Oasis fans and may or may not know anything about BDI other than the fact that Liam fronts them. It's definitely not because I think he is thick.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jun 11, 2011 16:14:27 GMT -5
Exactly, its not rocket science. There seems to be a weird belief on here that people have considered all sorts of thoughts and possibillities that Liam would to be much to thick to have ever entertained. Oh I think he knew. But there is a difference between knowing this intellectually and seeing it practically. They've been playing to their own crowds thus far, Oasis crowds. Crowds invested in the band. They may be smaller gigs...but the crowds have seemed as up for it as many Oasis crowds. These will be the first gigs played to people who were necessarily big Oasis fans and may or may not know anything about BDI other than the fact that Liam fronts them. It's definitely not because I think he is thick. I wasn't aiming that at you, but there are people that seem to think they are coming up with stuff Liam and the band must never have thought of. I agree with your post too, but for the some of the others; Which bit of it have BDI not considered/understood when they signed up to do festivals?
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Post by gdforever on Jun 11, 2011 16:16:02 GMT -5
Oh I think he knew. But there is a difference between knowing this intellectually and seeing it practically. They've been playing to their own crowds thus far, Oasis crowds. Crowds invested in the band. They may be smaller gigs...but the crowds have seemed as up for it as many Oasis crowds. These will be the first gigs played to people who were necessarily big Oasis fans and may or may not know anything about BDI other than the fact that Liam fronts them. It's definitely not because I think he is thick. I wasn't aiming that at you, but there are people that seem to think they are coming up with stuff Liam and the band must never have thought of. I agree with your post too, but for the some of the others; Which bit of it have BDI not considered/understood when they signed up to do festivals? Then we are in accord. Naive to think they thought they would have not understood what their reception would be at the festivals
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Post by thomas09 on Jun 11, 2011 20:33:49 GMT -5
to be fair to liam, i cant imagine noel getting too many headline slots at festivals either... and lets face it, although noel wrote some of the best festival/stadium songs ever, it was usually liam who sang them. with the exception of a few (DLBIA, TIOBI) liam sang them all
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Post by gdforever on Jun 11, 2011 20:58:58 GMT -5
to be fair to liam, i cant imagine noel getting too many headline slots at festivals either... and lets face it, although noel wrote some of the best festival/stadium songs ever, it was usually liam who sang them. with the exception of a few (DLBIA, TIOBI) liam sang them all No one in pretending Noel will headline festivals. It's not a slight against BDI that they are 2nd or 3rd on the bill. That is the right level for a new band with only a debut album to play.
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Post by Leezy on Jun 11, 2011 21:36:28 GMT -5
God sake Liam, get a fuckin HAIRCUT!
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Post by spaneli on Jun 11, 2011 21:37:42 GMT -5
to be fair to liam, i cant imagine noel getting too many headline slots at festivals either... and lets face it, although noel wrote some of the best festival/stadium songs ever, it was usually liam who sang them. with the exception of a few (DLBIA, TIOBI) liam sang them all No one in pretending Noel will headline festivals. It's not a slight against BDI that they are 2nd or 3rd on the bill. That is the right level for a new band with only a debut album to play. Noel will also see this too. Which makes me wonder how many festivals Noel will really play.
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Post by gdforever on Jun 11, 2011 21:43:43 GMT -5
No one in pretending Noel will headline festivals. It's not a slight against BDI that they are 2nd or 3rd on the bill. That is the right level for a new band with only a debut album to play. Noel will also see this too. Which makes me wonder how many festivals Noel will really play. I think it depends on what kind of album he wants to put out and more importantly how much effort he really wants to put into touring. He has said that his favorite spot is actually the one before the headliner where the sun sets during your set.
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Post by spaneli on Jun 11, 2011 21:48:32 GMT -5
Noel will also see this too. Which makes me wonder how many festivals Noel will really play. I think it depends on what kind of album he wants to put out and more importantly how much effort he really wants to put into touring. He has said that his favorite spot is actually the one before the headliner where the sun sets during your set. Will be interesting to see how much he really puts into touring. Especially in the US. I hope he doesn't do a Beady Eye and just do a couple of shows on the east coast, one in the midwest, and maybe a few on the west coast. Like to see him put just a bit more time into it than that.
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Post by thomas09 on Jun 12, 2011 6:20:21 GMT -5
if he releases his album at the end of the summer, would it be safe to say that he will of stopped touring by the time festival season begins next year? if his album isnt made for festival gigs this could be the reason his album is "apparently" (using the brackets cos its only speculation) finished and we're not hearing any information? cos he wants to avoid all the festival gigs?
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jun 12, 2011 6:46:07 GMT -5
He has said that his favorite spot is actually the one before the headliner where the sun sets during your set. you know way too much concerning Oasis-related mini subjects. is your knowledge as detailed in other areas? p.s. you should really consider writing an Oasis biography, or an Oasis catalog or something. think about it.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Jun 12, 2011 7:06:12 GMT -5
It works both ways.
The upside is that Beady Eye were given immediate exposure because of the Gallagher name, history and past contacts.
The downside of course is that Liam Gallagher is (perhaps rightfully) seen as a spent force. This is their level now, they aren't going to attract many more new fans regardless.
There isn't much he can do about it, but as I say, there is an upside. I didn't expect the Beady Eye tour to sell out so quickly, for example.
They're obviously enthusiastic, but the real test will be album number 2 or 3 when the enthusiasm wears off. Especially if he's on good terms with Noel by then.
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jun 12, 2011 11:28:43 GMT -5
I could not give the slightest fuck about how they're received in america.
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Post by gdforever on Jun 12, 2011 13:11:04 GMT -5
I could not give the slightest fuck about how they're received in america. ...this thread isn't about BDI in America?
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jun 12, 2011 14:29:32 GMT -5
I was responding to the point in the op.
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