ciangiff
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Post by ciangiff on May 21, 2011 6:32:12 GMT -5
Liam's interview with MTV at the opening of the second PG store:
Apparently they'll start recording the second BE album in February, and we'll have it next summer. Thoughts?
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Post by songbirdsally on May 21, 2011 7:21:54 GMT -5
thanks for the link! He basicly says the same in the XFM interview: they've been in the studio already, will start recording in february and album out in summer 2012. I'm happy with that!  |
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Post by BEng on May 21, 2011 7:23:49 GMT -5
Wall of sound & big anthems: oh my =)
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Post by The Morning Son on May 21, 2011 7:50:56 GMT -5
Yeah summer seems a very realistic target if they follow the same model as they did with DGSS. Probably be out around July maybe August.
I'm more intrigued about the sound, Beady Eye are yet to find their sound. The first record had about 4 or 5 different vibes going on and like Andy Bell said it's a free pass to show off influences.
This second album will be songs written specifically for Beady Eye and with a sound and target audience in mind. Bring It On!
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on May 21, 2011 8:01:34 GMT -5
Good to hear they're not rushing into a second album this year. Seems like they already got some album songs written ("big anthems", "epic tunes"  ...if they take their time to write some more originals instead of filling the album with old material, I believe it's gonna be great. |
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Post by ETrilk on May 21, 2011 9:48:39 GMT -5
This would be fantastic if it actually happens!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 21, 2011 10:03:08 GMT -5
As much as I love Noel, I just wish he had the energy that Liam has. If he did, I think Oasis would still be going on.....
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ciangiff
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Post by ciangiff on May 21, 2011 10:28:29 GMT -5
As much as I love Noel, I just wish he had the energy that Liam has. If he did, I think Oasis would still be going on..... I agree. It's his laid back and (dare I say it) lazy attitude that lets him down. He is perhaps too comfortable in the knowledge that he is an iconic songwriter/musician, and wants the world to come to him rather than go and meet the world head on by himself. I still love the guy though. |
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Post by MacaRonic on May 21, 2011 10:44:51 GMT -5
As much as I love Noel, I just wish he had the energy that Liam has. If he did, I think Oasis would still be going on..... I agree. It's his laid back and (dare I say it) lazy attitude that lets him down. He is perhaps too comfortable in the knowledge that he is an iconic songwriter/musician, and wants the world to come to him rather than go and meet the world head on by himself. I still love the guy though. Agreed |
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Post by gdforever on May 21, 2011 11:04:55 GMT -5
But on the other hand, when Noel starts working on his projects he works way harder than Liam.
I think you can see it on DGSS
Liam really is a quantity over quality man. Just look @ DGSS. 13 tracks...but no amazing tunes. All slightly above average. Mostly average but helped immeasurably by Lillywhite.
Noel may put out 11 tracks instead of 13. He may spend 1 year instead of 4-5 months. But when it comes out it'll have some great tunes (knock on wood)
Short-term I appreciate having the constant out-stream of music, but long-term I'd rather have several amazing tunes than several average albums.
And I also think that is how you build a reputation. People build reputation off quality...not quantity.
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Post by tomlivesforever on May 21, 2011 11:56:29 GMT -5
You have absolutely no idea how much hard work and effort Liam put into those tracks whether you like the songs or not. To say that he is quantity over quality is absurd.
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Post by spaneli on May 21, 2011 13:16:39 GMT -5
You have absolutely no idea how much hard work and effort Liam put into those tracks whether you like the songs or not. To say that he is quantity over quality is absurd. I would agree that none of us have the right to question how hard Noel and Liam work and how much effort that they put into their projects. None of us are in the studio with them. The result does not automatically represent the effort. Anyone who has ever made anything artistic knows that. I can't say whether Liam is quantity over quality either. I do wish that he spent more time on his albums. But him not spending more time on an album does not mean that he cares more about quantity than quality. In the end, time doesn't automatically mean effort. And spending more time on something doesn't always mean that you care more about quality. You could just be slow. Effort goes a long way when it comes to making an album, but there's no way to measure effort if you're not there. And there's way to tell which Liam cares more about, quality or quantity, if you're not in the studio with him. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 21, 2011 13:21:49 GMT -5
i just hope, and know it's been discussed on here, that BDI take their time on the next album. however long that takes. i have other interests and hobbies, i'll remain entertained in the meantime.
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Post by spaneli on May 21, 2011 13:29:52 GMT -5
i just hope, and know it's been discussed on here, that BDI take their time on the next album. however long that takes. i have other interests and hobbies, i'll remain entertained in the meantime. I agree. I do hope that he takes more time to do this album. Not because I think that more time will automatically make better songs. Its becuase I think that they need time to find their own sound. They need to find something that represents them. And that does take time. |
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Post by gdforever on May 21, 2011 14:18:44 GMT -5
You have absolutely no idea how much hard work and effort Liam put into those tracks whether you like the songs or not. To say that he is quantity over quality is absurd. Maybe you're right. I think the songs come have been better with more effort and a more critical eye in particular to the relentless needless repetition. I am making assumptions to a certain extent. But so do we all. I just think they could have done better Everyone here make assumptions though. For instance the statement that Noel didn't get cracking immediately because he was lazy. There are several other reasons for him to have waited to record. 1) he and his girlfriend had a baby, 2) he was involved in the release of TF. We know he did all those interviews for YouTube and all the commentaries. Despite the fact that he had left Oasis, he wasn't free from all it's obligations until after TF was released, 3) BDI started working on their album almost immediately. As many have said neither brother was going to allow themselves to be easily pitted against eachother. When Liam started working on an album while Noel undoubtably knew another Oasis release would be in the works. Why would he have even considered starting to work on his own album when he knew that the Oasis one would have to come first, then the BDI one, then his. He apparently started working on his album at around the time TF was finishing it's promo. Giving him the whole the BDI promo to record And rumors have it probably dropping in fall...which is probably the soonest we would've expected after DGSS. Even if he'd gone in the studio earlier he still wouldn't have released any earlier. |
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Post by spaneli on May 21, 2011 14:28:36 GMT -5
^^also agree that people who think the reason that Noel is taking so long om his solo project, because he's lazy, are also just as wrong as those who assume that Liam doesn't put enough effort into the BDI project.
I always feel that Noel really plays up being lazy. I don't think he's as lazy as he likes to appear. I think he just uses as an excuse or as a way of getting out of answering certain questions. I do think that some on the forum get a bit lazy in assuming that Noel is taking so long becuase he's lazy.
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Post by The Morning Son on May 21, 2011 14:29:30 GMT -5
I like that Liam wants to put records out fast, thats how it should be 18-24months max.
I'm in agreement that from the outside it seems that Noel puts more effort in but we'll have to see what that produces. After all to me he's only produced 4 or 5 classics in the last 10 years so time may play no factor on the quality of the tunes.
Only time will tell, but at least now we could have had 2 Beady Eye records and a Noel record in 18 months, that's about 40-50 new tunes. This Oasis split aint such a bad thing....
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Post by songbirdsally on May 21, 2011 14:59:18 GMT -5
I like that Liam wants to put records out fast, thats how it should be 18-24months max. I'm in agreement that from the outside it seems that Noel puts more effort in but we'll have to see what that produces. After all to me he's only produced 4 or 5 classics in the last 10 years so time may play no factor on the quality of the tunes. Only time will tell, but at least now we could have had 2 Beady Eye records and a Noel record in 18 months, that's about 40-50 new tunes. This Oasis split aint such a bad thing.... Exactly! Also, I do not get the people who say 'oh I hope they will take longer time to write the album and get better tunes'.. Since when does longer time to write tunes equal a better album? They will write the album they want to write and that's it. They want to write it fast, so be it. I am happy! And after all, I never head anyone complaining about the Beatles releasing so much albums in so little time! |
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 21, 2011 15:04:15 GMT -5
I like that Liam wants to put records out fast, thats how it should be 18-24months max. I'm in agreement that from the outside it seems that Noel puts more effort in but we'll have to see what that produces. After all to me he's only produced 4 or 5 classics in the last 10 years so time may play no factor on the quality of the tunes. Only time will tell, but at least now we could have had 2 Beady Eye records and a Noel record in 18 months, that's about 40-50 new tunes. This Oasis split aint such a bad thing.... Exactly! Also, I do not get the people who say 'oh I hope they will take longer time to write the album and get better tunes'.. Since when does longer time to write tunes equal a better album? They will write the album they want to write and that's it. They want to write it fast, so be it. I am happy! And after all, I never head anyone complaining about the Beatles releasing so much albums in so little time! yeah, that's all great and all but BDI's first album was mediocre at best. i can't wait to hear the next 'rushed' mediocre second album. what is this, amateur hour? |
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Post by songbirdsally on May 21, 2011 15:09:06 GMT -5
Exactly! Also, I do not get the people who say 'oh I hope they will take longer time to write the album and get better tunes'.. Since when does longer time to write tunes equal a better album? They will write the album they want to write and that's it. They want to write it fast, so be it. I am happy! And after all, I never head anyone complaining about the Beatles releasing so much albums in so little time! yeah, that's all great and all but BDI's first album was mediocre at best. i can't wait to hear the next 'rushed' mediocre second album. what is this, amateur hour? What you think of DGSS is your opinion, but I like the album enough to want to hear a second album of them. And it doesn't have to take longer then summer 2012 for me. |
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Post by MacaRonic on May 21, 2011 15:13:58 GMT -5
DGSS is not an average album.
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 21, 2011 15:14:47 GMT -5
yeah, that's all great and all but BDI's first album was mediocre at best. i can't wait to hear the next 'rushed' mediocre second album. what is this, amateur hour? What you think of DGSS is your opinion, but I like the album enough to want to hear a second album of them. And it doesn't have to take longer then summer 2012 for me. i like THE verse of 'beatles and stones' and the chorus of 'standing on the edge.......', and 'three ring circus', the rest is forgettable. on a grade scale: comparatively speaking, to new music - 6/10 on it's own - 4/10 BDI, take a vacation! write great songs! |
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Post by spaneli on May 21, 2011 15:15:22 GMT -5
DGSS is not an average album. Its a slighly above average album. 7/10, 7.5/10, depending on the day. and thats on its own, not comparing them to Oasis. comparative to Oasis, a 6/10. Can't say it's better than that. imo |
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Post by songbirdsally on May 21, 2011 15:18:32 GMT -5
What you think of DGSS is your opinion, but I like the album enough to want to hear a second album of them. And it doesn't have to take longer then summer 2012 for me. on it's own - 4/10  If this is what you think, then Beady Eye isn't the band for you.. So don't even botter waiting for the second one.. The album isn't a stroke of genious, but it's average at its very best the least. |
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Post by Let It🩸 on May 21, 2011 15:46:22 GMT -5
If this is what you think, then Beady Eye isn't the band for you.. So don't even botter waiting for the second one.. The album isn't a stroke of genious, but it's average at its very best the least. i'll always be interested in BDI just because of their Oasis connection, at least. their first album didn't do much for me, maybe their second will. maybe taking some time will help them, maybe not. maybe they won't need time. what if c-a-t spelled 'dog'? |
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...if they take their time to write some more originals instead of filling the album with old material, I believe it's gonna be great.
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