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Post by BagItUp11 on Apr 16, 2011 17:12:15 GMT -5
Throughout his entire career, as we all know, Noel has answered any and all questions, whether stupid, weird, tough, or sarcastic, with an honest response. Saying that, i still for some reason wonder... Will Noel be willing, as Liam certainly has been, to discuss in depth the Oasis Split and his feelings for his brother.
Some may bring up the SideWalk interview where he calls Liam an Idiot, and yes of course he's called Liam an idiot millions of times in interviews prior , but part of me believes Noel, with the his classy demeanor and all things starting anew, with an album/tour on it's way or already underway, will want to quickly change subjects and not start a war of words talking in length about the facts and fictions about the split, whose fault it was, and Liam specifically.
I would personally be disappointed with that approach being that nearly EVERY INTERVIEW will include MULTIPLE questions about the split and Liam.I could be way off here but let me know what you guys think!
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Post by deasy on Apr 16, 2011 17:19:25 GMT -5
I think Noel will get tired of it pretty quick and will go into that mode where he answers every question with the same answer. Like that video where he answers everything with 'Amazing'  ;D |
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Post by shoofee on Apr 16, 2011 17:25:12 GMT -5
Interesting question.
I think he will just come up with a blanket statement about it and re-word it occasionally.
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 16, 2011 17:32:36 GMT -5
Throughout his entire career, as we all know, Noel has answered any and all questions, whether stupid, weird, tough, or sarcastic, with an honest response.  Will Noel be willing, as Liam certainly has been, to discuss in depth the Oasis Split and his feelings for his brother. I don't think so. I think he will have this kind of standard answer as 'Look, we each have gone our way, and that's it", quickly changing subject. Apart from when he talks about his songs and arrangements, he rarely gave in depth interviews anyways. And he never expressed his feelings for Liam in the way Liam expressed his feelings for Noel, so I don't think he will to do so now either.. What I wonder is, what is he going to answer to the inevitable question "What do you think of the Beady Eye album?" |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 16, 2011 17:34:42 GMT -5
I think he'll say a lot of vague stuff about the split. I don't think we'll ever know the full extent of what went on though. I think he'll put it down to the fact that Oasis stopped being worth the effort that he put into it. I expect sly digs and dry sarcasm about not doing the work for multiple people and that if he is going to do all the work he shouldn't have to share the glory/money etc. He'll deflect with humor like he always does.
I think they'll be stock answers. It'll be like the vagueness that surrounded Noel leaving for those gigs in 2000. I don't know how we know about the Anais comment...but Noel, in the interviews I've read/seen, always refused to restate the comment that was the final straw...just to say that it was unforgiveable.
He'll play it off as the same sibling frictions they have been having for years...but I don't think he'll go into it in depth about it.
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Post by scottevil655 on Apr 16, 2011 17:39:09 GMT -5
hahahaha that video is straight comedy thru and thru deasy...amazing. As for noel ill have to agree. He is certainly not gonna want to talk about liam at every interview and will probably be pulling his usual hilarity in response. At the same time you are right that he will not be backing away from questions, as he is too much of a stubborn/honest genius to do so. Im not sure exactly how he will handle it but im sure it will be somewhere between classy and sarcastically funny.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 16, 2011 17:49:17 GMT -5
Noel won't discuss it. And to say Liam has discussed it honestly is a lie, too. The only time they will speak openly about it is when they are on both terms and can agree on the story.
I actually think not speaking openly right now is best. With the feud still continuing, it would only be a "His word vs My word" scenario, which would only fracture relations even further.
Whether Oasis reform or not, Noel and Liam will be on good terms again eventually. And only then will we get the true story, and only then would be the appropriate time.
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Post by BagItUp11 on Apr 16, 2011 17:57:29 GMT -5
What I wonder is, what is he going to answer to the inevitable question "What do you think of the Beady Eye album?" i think Noel will say he likes Beady Eye's work being that for years now he has said he thinks Liam is a good songwriter (which i personally find laughable but i digress), and he did allow the 3 of them to write around 60 percent of the last 3 albums so it wouldn't be probable that says they're rubbish, although i would love it if he did haha |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 16, 2011 18:04:00 GMT -5
You do have to give them both credit for wishing each other the best - especially Liam (Noel's been more silent on the matter). That speaks volumes. They'll make up in due time.
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 16, 2011 18:55:17 GMT -5
You do have to give them both credit for wishing each other the best - especially Liam ( Noel's been more silent on the matter). That speaks volumes. They'll make up in due time. Noel hasn't said anything at all as far as I know.. |
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Post by gaspanic23 on Apr 17, 2011 7:48:53 GMT -5
He'd want to be on headlines and get people's attention to his album. Of course he will.
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Post by matt on Apr 17, 2011 8:07:51 GMT -5
Noel probably heard most of Beady Eye's album when he was in Oasis. A lot of them were written around Oasis time I think.
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Post by putthisin ® on Apr 17, 2011 11:12:32 GMT -5
Noel probably heard most of Beady Eye's album when he was in Oasis. A lot of them were written around Oasis time I think. He probably has heard some kind of rough vocals with some acoustic guitar chords. And I think he will say he likes DGSS. I mean, he likes HC... And whatever he may say about the split I think the general public will tend to believe in him the most. It will be the bright one vs the wild one. |
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 17, 2011 11:49:47 GMT -5
Noel probably heard most of Beady Eye's album when he was in Oasis. A lot of them were written around Oasis time I think. He probably has heard some kind of rough vocals with some acoustic guitar chords. And I think he will say he likes DGSS. I mean, he likes HC... Hm I also think he will say he likes the album. But then he's going to get the inevitable question why he didn't put any of those tracks on an Oasis album. He'll probably wave that away with 'they didn't fit on the album we were trying to make' or something' though.. |
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Post by gdforever on Apr 17, 2011 11:53:05 GMT -5
Most of them may have been written during Oasis...doesn't means they were all submitted to Noel for consideration though.
I think Noel generally submitted his dogs first and they all submitted the songs that they thought would fit with that.
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Post by drummert5 on Apr 17, 2011 12:01:20 GMT -5
There was definitely an interview around DOYS where Noel said he heard a whole list of Andy's tunes, and then picked TNOR for the album... from one of Andy's comments recently we know that collection of songs also included Millionaire, and if anyone could explain how TNOR appeared on an album over Millionaire I'd be interested to hear it.
I don't think it was sabotage or anything like that but it was a really odd decision on Noel's part.
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 17, 2011 12:03:54 GMT -5
There was definitely an interview around DOYS where Noel said he heard a whole list of Andy's tunes, and then picked TNOR for the album... from one of Andy's comments recently we know that collection of songs also included Millionaire, and if anyone could explain how TNOR appeared on an album over Millionaire I'd be interested to hear it. I don't think it was sabotage or anything like that but it was a really odd decision on Noel's part. Yep Andy said once (even before Beady Eye I think) that he gave 4 songs to Noel and Noel picked TNOR, which he found was the worst song of the 4. Guess Noel is just known for his odd decisions |
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Post by MacaRonic on Apr 17, 2011 12:09:06 GMT -5
^^ He is known for odd dicisions even dating back to DM. The man is a genius musician, but even I'm better than him when it comes to choosing a tracklist.
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Post by Teotihuacan on Apr 17, 2011 12:55:42 GMT -5
if anyone could explain how TNOR appeared on an album over Millionaire I'd be interested to hear it. TNOR is a ragged, intense riff rocker which complemented the riff-based songs (Bag it Up, Turning, WFTR) rather than classic-pop chord based songs Noel had decided to make the meat of the album. Lyrically, TNOR also coincided with religious questioning (the rapture, end of the world, tried to talk to God) that Noel expressed in his lyrics and which Gem picked up on in TBWTL. With DOYS, it seemed Noel was less interested in picing the 11 best tunes and more creating a consistently heavy and continuous mood through the record. |
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Post by bwilder on Apr 17, 2011 12:59:50 GMT -5
Tough question. I tend to think he'll answer in ambiguities like he usually does. He won't get as emotional as Liam unless he's pushed by the interviewer. I also agree that we'll never know the whole story. Although Liam does keep bringing up "comedians" and other people drinking "his beers" in the dressing room. (Obviously not Russell drinking the beers but other celebs that were hanging around.)
Bottom line is Noel will try to deflect the question as best he can without giving personal details.
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Post by mkoasis on Apr 17, 2011 13:00:07 GMT -5
^^It does make sense, choosing TNOR over Millionaire, even though Millionaire is the better song.
That was originally revealed in the DOYS DVD interview.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 17, 2011 13:18:34 GMT -5
I think Millionaire would have sounded weird and out of place on DOYS. He was obviously picking songs that fit the record rather than the best tunes. He said it himself and that Andy and Gem had better tunes than that but they didn't fit the record.
I think the problem is that if Andy and Gem didn't have any quality tunes that fit the feel of the record Noel should have not put an Andy/Gem tune on.
But he had this stupid quota system going where he had half the album, Liam had 3-4, and 1-2 from Andy and Gem. I think he probably felt he HAD to put an Andy and a Gem tune on.
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Post by songbirdsally on Apr 17, 2011 13:55:43 GMT -5
I think Millionaire would have sounded weird and out of place on DOYS. He was obviously picking songs that fit the record rather than the best tunes. He said it himself and that Andy and Gem had better tunes than that but they didn't fit the record. I think the problem is that if Andy and Gem didn't have any quality tunes that fit the feel of the record Noel should have not put an Andy/Gem tune on. But he had this stupid quota system going where he had half the album, Liam had 3-4, and 1-2 from Andy and Gem. I think he probably felt he HAD to put an Andy and a Gem tune on. It might have helped if he would have told Andy Gem and Liam in which direction he wanted to go with the album. Then maybe they could have written tunes in that direction.. In stead of him just picking the 'best fitting' tune out of a bunch of random songs.. |
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Post by discworld on Apr 17, 2011 14:36:29 GMT -5
If I remember well, Noel planned a Kinks inspired album and it's only after a discussion with Sardy that he changed his mind.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 17, 2011 16:17:26 GMT -5
If I remember well, Noel planned a Kinks inspired album and it's only after a discussion with Sardy that he changed his mind. Yeah...but I think they picked Andy and Gem's tunes to include after they had changed the direction. If it had stayed Kinksy Millionaire would have fit right in. Doesn't seem to me that LAG really write to order so I don't think that them knowing the plan for the album would have helped that much. Otherwise DGSS would be more cohesive. It's a bit all over the place IMO Noel shouldn't have been directing the album in a way that the other songwriters couldn't follow or weren't writing and then tried to MAKE their songs fit. He started doing his own thing and dragged everyone one behind him. That is a big reaso why I think he realized he needed to do his own project. |
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