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Post by webm@ster on Apr 9, 2011 12:05:44 GMT -5
Hey everybody! I stayed clear of the whole Noel Set List debate until I saw this tweet by board member XTRMNTRSCREAM twitter: beetlebumbilljeowhu sourmashmusic @oasisnews personally i think someone from live4ever wanted to delegitimize him because they are irate about AASo here's the deal: since I represent Live4ever I can tell you that nobody FROM LIVE4EVER sent anything to Peter ( sourmash ) inorder to delegitimize him. Knowing XTRMNTRSCREAM's posting activity for many many years I assume he's trying to stirr up shit, he likes that. Peter has written articles for my Live4ever Ezine and has always been straight forward with me. I chose not to run the tracklist in my newsroom because I want to verify stuff from my own credible sources before I do so. I have my own sources as everyone knows. Peter is free to write whatever he wants on this board. The posts were made on the Fact and Fiction boards so there's nothing wrong with that. That's all I want to say right now. Hope everyone who's bent out of shape calms down a bit. Thanks everyone. |
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Post by shoes222 on Apr 9, 2011 12:26:13 GMT -5
Great to hear from you. I don't think anyone was that bothered by it...as soon as that track listing came out I think everyone ceased to take it seriously.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 9, 2011 12:51:10 GMT -5
No one who matters would ever believe you would be involved with something like that webbie or anyone that you trust
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Post by supernovadragon on Apr 9, 2011 16:06:35 GMT -5
No one who matters would ever believe you would be involved with something like that webbie or anyone that you trust Agree! Also, just to say, as soon as I saw the "tracklisting" I thought, there we go, its started. THe bolloxs that is |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Apr 9, 2011 16:47:14 GMT -5
I don't think anyone has paid much attention to XTRMNTRSCREAM since the Milwaukee thing anyway.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 9, 2011 17:42:29 GMT -5
You know whenever Webby inserts himself in a topic, you've done something wrong. But when he starts a thread that isn't in the RNRS? Woe betide.
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 9, 2011 22:48:41 GMT -5
Thanks Webby! Appreciate the thread, as a thanks I am going to put my neck on the line now and just let you guys do your own searching with what I give you....... this band - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hours_(band) once featured a member called Mike Moore, find out about him and dig up what he has been doing for the last year!! Find out more on him and it might bring you closer... To clarify my information on my Sand Band story too, as I know he doesn't play for them anymore so I can say this now. Bass player Peter Wilkinson who was once and now back with Cast, I know him! He WASN'T him who told me, but someone close to him that I got my information from. If any of you have The Sand Band album, check the credits! Plus David McDonnell himself has confirmed The Sand Band story now anyway. Also to clear this up, I don't know Alan McGee. He has messaged me a couple of times on FB, but I don't know him. He has NEVER given me any info, the news of him listening to a Noel Solo record is COMMON KNOWLEDGE as he has been quoted himself on it. |
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Apr 9, 2011 23:20:43 GMT -5
Hey everybody! I stayed clear of the whole Noel Set List debate until I saw this tweet by board member XTRMNTRSCREAM twitter: beetlebumbilljeowhu sourmashmusic @oasisnews personally i think someone from live4ever wanted to delegitimize him because they are irate about AASo here's the deal: since I represent Live4ever I can tell you that nobody FROM LIVE4EVER sent anything to Peter ( sourmash ) inorder to delegitimize him. Knowing XTRMNTRSCREAM's posting activity for many many years I assume he's trying to stirr up shit, he likes that. Peter has written articles for my Live4ever Ezine and has always been straight forward with me. I chose not to run the tracklist in my newsroom because I want to verify stuff from my own credible sources before I do so. I have my own sources as everyone knows. Peter is free to write whatever he wants on this board. The posts were made on the Fact and Fiction boards so there's nothing wrong with that. That's all I want to say right now. Hope everyone who's bent out of shape calms down a bit. Thanks everyone. so you know what all your users do? you are in the wrong business if that is the case. |
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Post by Rifles on Apr 9, 2011 23:23:33 GMT -5
sourmashmusic -- Thanks for finally coming clean a bit. You're still going to catch shit for posting in several threads instead of just this one. I get the impression you think you're more important than you really are.
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 9, 2011 23:27:50 GMT -5
No not at all, I don't claim to be anything other than an Oasis fan! Irony is, where I work, has meant I have met and spoken to Noel G more than most of you! NOT THAT I THINK I AM MORE IMPORTANT THAN I REALLY I AM, before you start again! lol Just saying that are sources are sources! Some are reliable, some aren't.
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Post by Rifles on Apr 9, 2011 23:32:57 GMT -5
You posted your same message in the last 5 threads about Noel's album, even ones that had nothing to do with you. You think your message is so important, everyone must read it. You are really terrible at this communication thing.
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 9, 2011 23:38:11 GMT -5
I post replies in threads that the information I talked about was mentioned in!!
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Post by Rifles on Apr 9, 2011 23:45:05 GMT -5
Fantastic! I look forward to this trend catching on. I hope everyone starts posting the same thing in every thread they're active in. It doesn't seem ridiculous and pretentious at all.
I know it seems like i'm just riding you, but come on man. This stuff is common sense. You seem like you don't have bad intentions but every time you do something you fuck up just enough to be annoying in some fashion.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 10, 2011 0:39:22 GMT -5
I post replies in threads that the information I talked about was mentioned in!! He only means that we all read this board already. Nobody just goes to selected threads in a section and ignores the rest when they are on the same topic. You don't need to post in multiple threads. Everyone will get it from one. Every tread isn't a separate conversation...the whole board is a big conversation and the thread are a loose weave way of separating subjects. I think it's great if you have real sources. But if you have access to real information through legitimate and verifiable channels...it baffles me that you would have chosen to ruin your credibility by teasing then posting a track-listing from an unverified source out of Brazil of all places. You have to admit you deserve some flack or that...after making a big deal about having inside knowledge for a day and a half. The fact is that now you will always have those that doubt and call bullshit on you know because you have proven yourself untrustworthy. Deal with it. It's an uphill battle now. Most gave you the benefit of the doubt until the bogus track list. And even those that didn't were respectful about it. But if you lie to people...they'll get annoyed. |
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Post by shoofee on Apr 11, 2011 10:59:50 GMT -5
Quit beating this like a damn drum, gdforever.
He ran with a tracklisting that he was given. He kneejerked by posting it as undoubtedly this sort of potential scoop is exciting. Its no different from a professional journalist (which he admits he isnt) not factchecking and having to issue a retraction later on. I dont think theres any question that the tracklisting he posted is bogus, but IMO it was sent to him to make him look bad. IMO sourmash is not a big Oasis fan at least in terms of knowing detail of things like some of us, and there is nothing wrong with that. Theres plenty of people who break news on acts that they're not wholly invested in.
Does it completely blow his other stuff out of the realm of possibility? No, it doesn't. He ran with something he clearly shouldn't have, but it was a mistake. The only thing it does is add doubt to his prior postings. Can anyone refute his prior postings? If your opinion is that he's not telling the truth, thats fine. I personally doubt some of it, but I don't have all the facts to say with absolute certainty that what hes told us isn't true, but some of it can be proven (The Sand Band, point in recording process, etc).
I personally dont care about the infighting thing, nor do I care about the 2 albums worth of material, or whatever. It doesn't affect me as a listener unless we can hear the material to compare in the future. We may never even have the whole story if the deal with management and Noel decamping to LA because of that is true.
The only things I care about is when the record is coming out and when Noel is touring. That's it. The chance of us seeing all of the material, should it be true, is slim to none. The rest of this is insignificant bullshit in that respect.
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Post by gdforever on Apr 11, 2011 14:04:31 GMT -5
I am not beating it like a drum. I AM attempting to explain to him why he is particularly attracted so much flack...he genuinely seems baffled.
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Post by sourmashmusic on Apr 11, 2011 19:40:51 GMT -5
Ah!!!! Now I dont seem baffled! I have had time to think about all this, to be honest, I know I should not have posted the tracklisting! I blame myself for it, but I do include Alisson of Oasisnews.br who when he emailed me about, seemed very excited by it! Based on his reaction in his email, I went with it! He seems to now go on like he knew it was fake! Like fuck he did! Anyway, thanks for the support, well kind of support, I have got! My sources (outside of the track listing fiasco) are solid! News of the Sand Band, came from one of the members! And Management story was blown out of proportion a little bit! I never once suggested he had fallen out with Marcus, he never would! Those guys are solid and get on so well, it's always great to see! All I was getting at was that they don't like the AA sessions much at all! Only Noel likes what he is doing with AA right now! But this could come to crunch time, as to what kind of album he will eventually release!
I just find it great that people still love what the brothers gallagher do! I am a much bigger fan than all you guys think! As to not spotting track names as being old demos, well I did know! But as you all know, each Oasis album that came out was full of old tracks that had been mentioned previously, thats the way they do things!
please, if you want more info, found out from Mike Moore of The Hours, he knows, as he has been n the studio with Noel last year! Dave Sardy too, But I know too well, he is a hard man to get hold of!
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Post by rupertg on Apr 11, 2011 20:06:08 GMT -5
When i saw The Red White & Blue on the tracklisting i knew it was fake. That song is about 16 years old.
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Post by shoofee on Apr 11, 2011 21:36:04 GMT -5
each Oasis album that came out was full of old tracks that had been mentioned previously, thats the way they do things! This is flat out wrong. There was maybe 1 or 2 tracks at best over the last 3-4 records that were like that where they were mentioned previously and "old". HC - SCYHO, Force of Nature DBTT - Let There Be Love DOYS - None There was no list of unreleased songs that the majority of tracks on these records came from. Noel even said himself that they went with their "freshest material" most of the time. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 11, 2011 21:44:00 GMT -5
each Oasis album that came out was full of old tracks that had been mentioned previously, thats the way they do things! This is flat out wrong. Is he really a massive Oasis fan? lol DOYS had Iot, DBTT had LTBL. You could kinda say that with DM, WTSMG, and BHN, but those were part of a stockpile of songs that had been written. After those 3 albums there really aren't that many examples. Rarely were there more than 1 one per album after the first 3. And to now think that on Noel's solo album every single track is going to be an old track? I'm sorry but that's just stupid. He keep trying to defend yourself, but by defending himself he keeps digging a deeper hole. He pretty much keeps proving that hedeserved to get played. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 11, 2011 21:45:41 GMT -5
each Oasis album that came out was full of old tracks that had been mentioned previously, thats the way they do things! DOYS - None IOT, but yeah really more than 1 or 2. (except for the first 3 albums of course) |
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Post by shoofee on Apr 11, 2011 22:18:17 GMT -5
IOT, but yeah really more than 1 or 2. (except for the first 3 albums of course) Liam song. I was looking purely at Noel. I also dont believe Liam when he says it took him 9 years to write it. |
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Post by spaneli on Apr 11, 2011 22:24:31 GMT -5
IOT, but yeah really more than 1 or 2. (except for the first 3 albums of course) Liam song. I was looking purely at Noel. I also dont believe Liam when he says it took him 9 years to write it. Yeah sourmash said "they" so I just thought that I would include a Liam song. But yeah, of course he was lying when he said 9 years. He was just joking, but it was an old song that had been on the back burner for a bit. |
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Post by shoofee on Apr 11, 2011 22:29:47 GMT -5
Not discounting that, but its besides the point. Mash stated "each Oasis album that came out was full of old tracks that had been mentioned previously, thats the way they do things!" which isn't true. All bands have a few old songs laying around that come up again for future records, but not the way mash presented that quote. It usually wasnt even a handful.
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Post by rupertg on Apr 11, 2011 23:04:00 GMT -5
The embryo of Lyla was demoed at the HC sessions titled Sing If The Songs Worth Singing. Also Little By Little was demoed in France 1999.
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