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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 21, 2011 9:40:36 GMT -5
From 8:10
Interviewer 'Is it true you havn't spoken in a year? I dont think so, cause last time you said that he loves the record and you're in touch somehow right?'. Liam 'No I havn't seen in, but I've seen enough of him man' Interviewer 'But is it true that your wives are still connected and they go shopping! Liam 'Oh yeah yeah, they're always out and about, having a coffee
Gems is smiling is kinda suspicious
Interviewer: 'Do they try to put you together?' Liam 'Yeah, they do, really hard' (everyone is kinda laughing) And then he goes on about the usual 'I love our kid' stuff, blablabla...
I BET THEY DID! Anyways, if not, it's not going to take long anymore..
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Post by oneeye on Mar 21, 2011 10:10:17 GMT -5
not sure if he said that tongue in cheek?
I've never seen pictures of those girls together, but you never know? You would think they will talk eventually, go out for a drink and have a laugh - it will happen eventually.
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 21, 2011 10:19:58 GMT -5
yeah I know, and you'd think if their wives went out together in public right now at least 'The Sun' would make a story of it But still, he didn't sound like he was joking around, normally you can tell if he is..
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Post by jilliam on Mar 21, 2011 10:25:22 GMT -5
Never have I ever seen a pic of Nic & Sara together. Going off a gut feeling but I don't think any of the wives ( liams, gems or andys) get on with Sara. Think Liam was being sarcastic and that's why Gem was cracking up.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 21, 2011 10:38:30 GMT -5
The ending to that video was pretty interesting.
Interviewer: Has Noel been working on anything? An album?
Liam: Yeah his attitude. He's working on his attitude. And his personality.
Andy stone face, Gem in the middle, and the two interviewers giving a half heart-ed laugh.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 21, 2011 11:21:45 GMT -5
I think Gem laughing because he's just a bit rueful that they couldn't get through an interview without Noel being mention and I think he is smiling with a bit of discomfort because he has probably sat through a few Liam tirades about interviewers obsessions with Noel.
I think he is just sitting and saying..."Don't say or do anything too crazy Liam." You can see Liam get wound up quite a bit by that question...getting up from the chair and all that. If I were in a band with Liam I'd be worried about his losing his temper.
As for no one liking Sara. I don't know why we would assume that. She doesn't seem to be a horrible person. Why does everyone assume she is? We don't really know anything about her...just as we don't know anything about Gem or Andy's wives. The only wife we do know anything about is Liam's wife because he married a pop star.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 21, 2011 11:35:47 GMT -5
Have to say, Liam is looking cool again.
I haven't watched all 3 clips yet but the banter while The Roller was being played was really nice to see(in part 3)
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 21, 2011 11:39:08 GMT -5
DJ: Is Noel working on something? Liam: yeah... his attitude.
lmao
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Post by spaneli on Mar 21, 2011 11:44:33 GMT -5
Have to say, Liam is looking cool again. I haven't watched all 3 clips yet but the banter while The Roller was being played was really nice to see(in part 3) I liked that also. It was good see how they interacted as a band. All of them were really loose. Part 3 is probably the best part to me. You can see how some of the band dynamics are.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 21, 2011 11:57:13 GMT -5
could anyone clear this up for me.... there is a part where they start talking about the festivals, What does Gem say to Liam about Coldplay and U2 ?
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Post by Rifles on Mar 21, 2011 12:08:32 GMT -5
I get the feeling from watching the other guys in several interviews that Andy probably harbors some negative emotions towards Noel leaving. I always get the sense that Gem is very much a peacemaker/happy go lucky kind of guy that doesn't want to make any enemies.
Anyone else get that feeling from Andy? Whenever Noel is mentioned he's very stoic whereas Gem you can kind of see gets a little uneasy because he probably doesn't like anything negative being said about anyone.
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Post by agnhi on Mar 21, 2011 12:36:37 GMT -5
I get the feeling from watching the other guys in several interviews that Andy probably harbors some negative emotions towards Noel leaving. I always get the sense that Gem is very much a peacemaker/happy go lucky kind of guy that doesn't want to make any enemies. Have you read that Q interview they did(the issue with Liam on cover). I had always thought Gem+Noel were alright but there was surprising comments from Gem giving me the impression he was more upset by it than I had thought he'd be.
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Post by agnhi on Mar 21, 2011 12:39:05 GMT -5
Never have I ever seen a pic of Nic & Sara together. Going off a gut feeling but I don't think any of the wives ( liams, gems or andys) get on with Sara. Think Liam was being sarcastic and that's why Gem was cracking up. ? (yeah that's them, there's a larger version of this I've seen but can't find it now)
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Post by oneeye on Mar 21, 2011 12:39:08 GMT -5
I get the feeling from watching the other guys in several interviews that Andy probably harbors some negative emotions towards Noel leaving. I always get the sense that Gem is very much a peacemaker/happy go lucky kind of guy that doesn't want to make any enemies. Anyone else get that feeling from Andy? Whenever Noel is mentioned he's very stoic whereas Gem you can kind of see gets a little uneasy because he probably doesn't like anything negative being said about anyone. yeh but remember the XFM interview where Liam suggested that Gem and Andy might appear on Noel's album somewhere?
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Post by agnhi on Mar 21, 2011 12:42:30 GMT -5
yeh but remember the XFM interview where Liam suggested that Gem and Andy might appear on Noel's album somewhere? Wasn't it the same one where before that he said "I might be on it". I just understood it as in joking about Noel using old material on it. I remember Gem saying somewhere he did the post-split TCT gig because it had been arranged before the split. I'm not meaning I think Gem and Noel are really sour and not talking or anything, just meaning Gem seemed more affected and hurt than I had thought he was.
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 21, 2011 12:43:39 GMT -5
I'm not meaning I think Gem and Noel are really sour and not talking or anything, just meaning Gem seemed more affected and hurt than I had thought he was. I think this is defenitely true. You can tell that by what he said about Noels statement as well. + Gem has said himself in an interview he hasn't seen or heard Noel either since before Christmas. could anyone clear this up for me.... there is a part where they start talking about the festivals, What does Gem say to Liam about Coldplay and U2 ? I didn't get that either, it had something to do with Glastonbury no longer being the best festival in England, and a new festival The Big Chill.. But I couldn't hear what Gem was saying about it at the end.. Anyone?
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Post by The Morning Son on Mar 21, 2011 13:13:31 GMT -5
could anyone clear this up for me.... there is a part where they start talking about the festivals, What does Gem say to Liam about Coldplay and U2 ? He said nobody wants to see these bands when your 14/15 (his lads age).
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Post by Rifles on Mar 21, 2011 14:34:13 GMT -5
yeh but remember the XFM interview where Liam suggested that Gem and Andy might appear on Noel's album somewhere? I remember Gem saying somewhere he did the post-split TCT gig because it had been arranged before the split. I'm not meaning I think Gem and Noel are really sour and not talking or anything, just meaning Gem seemed more affected and hurt than I had thought he was. That's kind of interesting. I thought there was an earlier interview where Gem mentioned that he still texts Noel but hasn't seen him because they've been so busy with Beady Eye and Noel's doing his thing? I can't remember where I saw that, seems like it was one of the first full band radio or video interviews. Personally I just get the impression that Andy sort of keeps to himself more and would take issue with the split more than Gem. Even in this recent interview when Andy's not aswering a question he always looks bored and you rarely see him laugh. Seems a bit of a shy fella.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 21, 2011 15:20:23 GMT -5
Why should Andy be upset about the split? Of anyone he is the one that benefited from the split the most IMO. I think without a doubt he is the person whose influence and status has increased the most from Oasis to BDI.
Liam always got 3 songs on the album, Gem was Noel's right-hand man and was the one involved in demoing the majority of the albums (between Noel and Liam) and also seemed to be Noel's sounding board. Andy didn't have as defined a role. He didn't even play all the bass.
Noel said during the DOYS press that his views differed wildly from Andy's. I think Andy, of LAG, felt the MOST constrained by the format of Oasis. He is probably the one that would have taken on more responsiblilty in Oasis if Noel had let him...Gem and Liam seem like they were satisfied with the status quo...but Andy was the leader in 2 moderately successful bands before Oasis and I don't think he was really satisfied with being a back-bencher.
But he is a quiet person anyways and tactful...we may never get an answer for him of that.
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Post by The Morning Son on Mar 21, 2011 15:54:32 GMT -5
Noel said during the DOYS press that his views differed wildly from Andy's. I think that is the crucial part, Liam, Gem & Noel all sort of fit under the 50's, 60's and 70's influences and like The Beatles, The Stones & The Who etc. Andy despite liking these sort of influences too, also has some crazy broad influences that are quite different. I think being a dj he is slightly more partial to rap music (he's used some Jay-Z in his sets) and some dance music too. So as Noel was generally the guy in charge, then Oasis took on his influences which sat right with Gem & Liam but Andy probably felt he was not allowed to get all of his personality and influences out in the open but in Beady Eye he can and that can be seen in his songs compared to Liam & Gem's
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Post by Rifles on Mar 21, 2011 16:19:06 GMT -5
Why should Andy be upset about the split? Of anyone he is the one that benefited from the split the most IMO. I think without a doubt he is the person whose influence and status has increased the most from Oasis to BDI. Liam always got 3 songs on the album, Gem was Noel's right-hand man and was the one involved in demoing the majority of the albums (between Noel and Liam) and also seemed to be Noel's sounding board. Andy didn't have as defined a role. He didn't even play all the bass. Noel said during the DOYS press that his views differed wildly from Andy's. I think Andy, of LAG, felt the MOST constrained by the format of Oasis. He is probably the one that would have taken on more responsiblilty in Oasis if Noel had let him...Gem and Liam seem like they were satisfied with the status quo...but Andy was the leader in 2 moderately successful bands before Oasis and I don't think he was really satisfied with being a back-bencher. But he is a quiet person anyways and tactful...we may never get an answer for him of that. I agree, and that would help explain the vibe I get from him. He would be happier now, but he probably does hold some sort of grudge or resentment towards Noel for maybe holding him back all those years, intnetionally or not. It may not be a big thing, but he's probably not one to call Noel or offer much in the way of communication these days because of it...maybe?
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Post by gdforever on Mar 21, 2011 17:07:52 GMT -5
Why should Andy be upset about the split? Of anyone he is the one that benefited from the split the most IMO. I think without a doubt he is the person whose influence and status has increased the most from Oasis to BDI. Liam always got 3 songs on the album, Gem was Noel's right-hand man and was the one involved in demoing the majority of the albums (between Noel and Liam) and also seemed to be Noel's sounding board. Andy didn't have as defined a role. He didn't even play all the bass. Noel said during the DOYS press that his views differed wildly from Andy's. I think Andy, of LAG, felt the MOST constrained by the format of Oasis. He is probably the one that would have taken on more responsiblilty in Oasis if Noel had let him...Gem and Liam seem like they were satisfied with the status quo...but Andy was the leader in 2 moderately successful bands before Oasis and I don't think he was really satisfied with being a back-bencher. But he is a quiet person anyways and tactful...we may never get an answer for him of that. I agree, and that would help explain the vibe I get from him. He would be happier now, but he probably does hold some sort of grudge or resentment towards Noel for maybe holding him back all those years, intnetionally or not. It may not be a big thing, but he's probably not one to call Noel or offer much in the way of communication these days because of it...maybe? But I don't think he particularly resents Noel for leaving them though...although I would guess he may resent the lack of support statement. I think Gem and Liam do resent Noel for breaking up Oasis. I think that band did give each of them exactly what they wanted. Gem likes playing guitar...Liam likes sings. I think Andy would have preferred a role more like Noel's...but Noel didn't leave any room for Andy to lead. You may have a point that Andy resented Noel a bit for holing him back in Oasis. But it could also just be that he is the most insulted that people thought he couldn't make a band work without Noel. I mean, you can see why people would question Liam (who has never been without Noel) and Gem (who's band wasn't that good)...but I wonder if Andy isn't just a tad more insulted with the rest. He founded Ride...he had made very good music before joining Oasis. I never got the impression that Noel and Andy were very close...but I think that might be nothing more complex than that they didn't have much in common. And now that hey aren't in the same band they have even less in common. So them not talking now doesn't surprise me. Gem was the only one Noel saw between albums. He said he never saw Liam or Andy. We know why about Liam...but we can only assume that the reason he didn't see Andy was because they weren't particularly good friends.
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Post by Rifles on Mar 21, 2011 17:49:56 GMT -5
Always a source of good insight and explanation, gdforever.
I think you're probably accurate with the Noel and Andy stuff. They probably just don't have much in common. I don't think there's any real animosity there - Andy seems like a pretty chill dude. I guess my point was Andy seems the type that would just leave things alone and move on, whereas I see Gem as someone who would actively try to repair a relationship after something like the split happens. I'm sure he was hurt in a way, but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see or hear of Noel and Gem working together or hanging out in the not-too-distant future.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 21, 2011 18:01:47 GMT -5
i think more than anything it's about Noel leaving Oasis(splitting up the band) i remember Andy(in particular) saying he had joined this band because it was Oasis, he hadn't joined to be in just any band. or something along those lines. i mean, if i was andy, or Liam or Gem for that matter, i'd be pretty fucking pissed off too. one minute you're in one of the biggest most successful bands(of all time) with such a high profile, and the next you have to sort of start over.
i don't know that Andy holds any sort of grudge towards Noel for any other reason but i guess what you guys are implying could have some truth to it, who knows.
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Post by agnhi on Mar 21, 2011 19:54:14 GMT -5
i mean, if i was andy, or Liam or Gem for that matter, i'd be pretty fucking pissed off too. one minute you're in one of the biggest most successful bands(of all time) with such a high profile, and the next you have to sort of start over. I can't swear this is true but I've odd memory of reading them saying (can't recall was it pre or post split) that they always were aware the band might not exist next day. That this was the risk you knew when you were in Oasis. I dunno. Just watching their interviews, them playing live etc, I just get this feeling that they're pissed off anymore(if ever been) by the fact that they gotta build something new and start all over. It seems like it's actually good fun and exciting to them.
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