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Post by bwilder on Mar 15, 2011 19:03:45 GMT -5
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Post by jlzoasis on Mar 15, 2011 19:17:05 GMT -5
great interview! I had to laugh when the writer called Oasis "the 'Sis"... seriously never heard that one before!
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Post by BlueJay on Mar 15, 2011 19:21:44 GMT -5
Very good write up and Liam is funny - as usual. Kudos to you, this interview is fresh and different from most of the other Beady Eye press interviews doing the rounds.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Mar 15, 2011 21:46:30 GMT -5
WTF? lol @ the Sclub7 reference.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 16, 2011 0:14:04 GMT -5
It's a good interview...but not that beneficial a write-up of Beady Eye. There is nothing about the new music other than it being retro-inspired.
Why is it that Liam gives them those lead-in's to talk about Noel? Why does he make it so easy to ignore the music and concentrate on the rivalry.
It's just a bit sad that Liam is letting it be more about Noel than about himself. Why is he making such a point to tell the world how bad Noel is going to be in concert. Liam isn't competing with Noel for a fan-base...they share one. What does he have to gain by spending his press taking pot shots @ Noel? It only succeeds in putting me off...as I am sure it does most fans that prefer Noel. It makes it feel a bit US vs HIM.
He's obviously annoyed that the world seemed to think that he couldn't do it without Noel. But unfortunately that frustration is coming out as vitriole towards Noel...and I don't think Noel deserves that. He is just beginning to sound petulant. He's like a little kid annoyed that not everyone in the world likes him best. And should he be surprised when people don't think he was capable of doing it alone when he says in this article that when it came time to record he did it all over Noel's guide vocals? His only job when it came to recording in Oasis was to sing...and according to his own account he makes it sound like he was basically Noel's puppet.
It smacks of insecurity that the best way he can think to rise above Noel is to knock Noel down.
If Noel acts like Liam when he finally starts putting out press I will be very disappointed, but I don't think he will. I think he'll either be tactfully silent or complimentary.
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Post by cavie on Mar 16, 2011 6:35:22 GMT -5
He's just responding to questions about Noel. It would be better if he didn't take the bait but Liam doesn't seem like the sort of guy to hold his tongue.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 16, 2011 7:17:17 GMT -5
It's a good interview...but not that beneficial a write-up of Beady Eye. There is nothing about the new music other than it being retro-inspired. Why is it that Liam gives them those lead-in's to talk about Noel? Why does he make it so easy to ignore the music and concentrate on the rivalry. It's just a bit sad that Liam is letting it be more about Noel than about himself. Why is he making such a point to tell the world how bad Noel is going to be in concert. Liam isn't competing with Noel for a fan-base...they share one. What does he have to gain by spending his press taking pot shots @ Noel? It only succeeds in putting me off...as I am sure it does most fans that prefer Noel. It makes it feel a bit US vs HIM. He's obviously annoyed that the world seemed to think that he couldn't do it without Noel. But unfortunately that frustration is coming out as vitriole towards Noel...and I don't think Noel deserves that. He is just beginning to sound petulant. He's like a little kid annoyed that not everyone in the world likes him best. And should he be surprised when people don't think he was capable of doing it alone when he says in this article that when it came time to record he did it all over Noel's guide vocals? His only job when it came to recording in Oasis was to sing...and according to his own account he makes it sound like he was basically Noel's puppet. It smacks of insecurity that the best way he can think to rise above Noel is to knock Noel down. If Noel acts like Liam when he finally starts putting out press I will be very disappointed, but I don't think he will. I think he'll either be tactfully silent or complimentary. Noel has acted like that for the last 15 years. Slating his brother, albeit more eloquently. Liam is now having his go but I don't think Noel will care and I don't either. You and others only appear to have a problem with this because of your weird protective reflex whenever Liam say's something about him.
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Post by Rifles on Mar 16, 2011 10:38:43 GMT -5
It smacks of insecurity that the best way he can think to rise above Noel is to knock Noel down. If Noel acts like Liam when he finally starts putting out press I will be very disappointed, but I don't think he will. I think he'll either be tactfully silent or complimentary. Both brothers have always been extremely insecure when it comes to the other. Liam always feeling like the inadequate one next to his songwriter genius brother, and Noel hating the fact that Liam got so much attention despite only being the singer. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence and both brothers are egotistical so they want what the other has. This should come as no surprise. As tom above me said, Liam is now getting his chance to fire at Noel and he's taking the opportunity. Now that Noel no longer has to deal with Liam or rely on him in any way, I have a feeling he will be much more subdued in his comments when the time comes. He was always complimentary of Liam's songwriting, but took every opportunity to make Liam seem dumb and childish (Liam didn't do much to help himself here tho). I have a feeling he'll only wish Beady Eye well in the press and also claim there will never be an Oasis reunion. gdforever, i get your point. You lean more towards Noel's side, and you would like to appreciate Liam more, but he makes it difficult when he takes shots at your guy. At this point you've got to just ignore the banter and enjoy the music. It's going to be years before the possibility of an Oasis reunion happens, because the egos are too big and bruised right now.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 16, 2011 10:52:24 GMT -5
I suppose you guys are right to an extent.
I don't mind the personal shots. Really I don't. I think those are generally pretty funny. It's when Liam goes after Noel musically that I get a bit annoyed.
Noel has been taking potshots personally for years...so fair enough that Liam gets a bit of his own back. But Noel never even mentioned the deterioration of Liam's voice to my recollection...even when it was @ it worst. He never took potshots at the thing that was important...which was Liams ability to put on a show or make good music.
So I don't think it's all just because I like Noel better that I think it's out of order.
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 16, 2011 11:19:43 GMT -5
But Noel never even mentioned the deterioration of Liam's voice to my recollection...even when it was @ it worst. He never took potshots at the thing that was important...which was Liams ability to put on a show or make good music. . Offcourse not. Imagine Noel slating the voice of the main singer of his band. It's like a taxi driver saying he's the best taxi driver but his taxi is going to explode, but you should still come with him cause he is the best taxi driver. (He can do it now though, now that Oasis doesn't exist anymore.. Pretty curious about what he will have to say when he comes out with something and press is firing away.. Hope he will be the smart one and just ignore the Liam/Oasis related questions though..)
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Post by gdforever on Mar 16, 2011 12:10:33 GMT -5
Oh I don't disagree. But just excusing away Liam questionable comments based of Noel's past comments doesn't cut it for me. And the fact that he is insulting his music is why.
I hope Noel takes the high road.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 16, 2011 12:48:35 GMT -5
I simply don't see anything wrong with what Liam is saying.
GDForever, you're trying to make a comparison that doesn't exist. You say that Noel never once publicly said "Liam voice is horrible now", and you're right. But there's no equivilant here. It's not like Liam is saying "Noel is incapable of writing another Live Forever. His talent is gone."
No. Instead, all Liam is saying is that Noel is interested in a different sound of music these days. Which seems true, how can any of us deny that based on the evidence of Falling Down, his sound checks, etc.
Liam isn't attacking Noel here. Sure, they both are insecure when it comes to discussing one another, I agree with that. Maybe Liam is showing his insecurity here, or he just may be frustrated who knows. But he certainly is not attacking his brother.
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Post by songbirdsally on Mar 16, 2011 13:11:48 GMT -5
^ True
Also, he has said many times he thinks/hopes Noels solo album is gonna be great, and that Noel is a great songwriter.. Just check the 'News of The World' interview (which was a really good interview imo!), and you'll notice!
The only 'negative' thing he has ever said about Noel musically, is that it's gonna bore people and make people fall a sleep, which is just referring to the change of direction Noel is taking, while he and Beady Eye are still and even more rock 'n' roll than Oasis. Nothing wrong with that..
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Post by gdforever on Mar 16, 2011 13:21:11 GMT -5
I think there is something wrong with that. It's alright if you then fine. But I don't like it. He could just leave it at he is going to make a good record...but he feels the need to say that it is going to be boring. If ANYONE other than Liam said that you guys would be right there with me. If it were the dude from Bloc Party or someone in Keane tell me you wouldn't have a few choice words to say.
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Post by mrsupernova on Mar 16, 2011 13:56:32 GMT -5
When I read all I thought of was Liam saying that it wasn't going to be straightforward rock n roll that Liam is accustomed to and even us as fans. You can see it even at the end with Dig Out Your Soul. High Horse, Those Swollen Hand Blues, Falling Down where all pretty abstract compared to what Liam wanted to be doing which were songs like Bring the Light. Even the Noel songs we've heard like Stop the Clocks, Record Machine, and his sound check songs, although great, have been more laid back compared to Liam's more forward approach.
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Post by gdforever on Mar 16, 2011 14:02:41 GMT -5
But that isn't what he says...he says that Noel is going to put people to sleep with his show and his album is going to be boring old man music (in another interview)
You can point out some nice things that he says but that doesn't change the fact that he is constantly swinging back ad forth between insulting what Noel is going to do musically and saying it's gonna be good.
While the direction Noel seems to be going is a bit more experimental and not as frantic as what BDI have done...I don't think it fair to call Falling Down old man music. TSHB is a left over b-side from DBTT so that isn't recent. HHL...I don't even wanna talk about it. I don't think even Noel really likes that tune...it was filler from whatever happened during the DOYS recording sessions.
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Post by bwilder on Mar 16, 2011 14:36:52 GMT -5
Wow. Didn't think me posting this would generate this kind of discussion. Good reading, though!
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Post by Rifles on Mar 16, 2011 16:23:52 GMT -5
I've already given my 2 cents on this whole thing, but I don't think Liam should be making any comments about rock 'n roll and putting people to sleep when over half of his new album is made up of ballads. Not to mention most of his pre-Beady Eye songs were ballads as well.
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Post by manualex on Mar 16, 2011 19:02:13 GMT -5
I've already given my 2 cents on this whole thing, but I don't think Liam should be making any comments about rock 'n roll and putting people to sleep when over half of his new album is made up of ballads. Not to mention most of his pre-Beady Eye songs were ballads as well. And the rockers werent that good
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Post by gdforever on Mar 16, 2011 20:12:27 GMT -5
I've already given my 2 cents on this whole thing, but I don't think Liam should be making any comments about rock 'n roll and putting people to sleep when over half of his new album is made up of ballads. Not to mention most of his pre-Beady Eye songs were ballads as well. Ohhh...SNAP!
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Post by bwilder on Mar 16, 2011 20:22:37 GMT -5
I've already given my 2 cents on this whole thing, but I don't think Liam should be making any comments about rock 'n roll and putting people to sleep when over half of his new album is made up of ballads. Not to mention most of his pre-Beady Eye songs were ballads as well. Ohhh...SNAP! TRUE DAT!
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Post by lainie on Mar 17, 2011 6:25:27 GMT -5
LOL i found it funny
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 17, 2011 11:20:56 GMT -5
I've already given my 2 cents on this whole thing, but I don't think Liam should be making any comments about rock 'n roll and putting people to sleep when over half of his new album is made up of ballads. Not to mention most of his pre-Beady Eye songs were ballads as well. Ohhh...SNAP! Not really. Ballads don't have to be boring, and sleep inducing. Look at the likes of DLBIA - there's a lot of energy and passion in that song. I'm not going to skim through the 3 page article again, but I don't recall Liam ever mentioning "Ballad" and "Noel" in the same sentence. I think someone on here took the liberty of trying to equate slow songs with ballads, which is an unfair conclusion. Everybody On the Run sounds boring as hell to me. I think that's what Liam was trying to get at. He was not making a generalization about ballads. CRACKLE AND POP!
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Post by Rifles on Mar 17, 2011 14:45:48 GMT -5
I could care less if a slow song is considered a ballad or not. That's not the issue. It's Liam's warped perception of himself and his corny comments that's getting old.
I think Liam's only base for his comments in this case is the ongoing notion that Noel is an old man and instead of "havin it" all the time like Liam apparently does...he'll go off with his guitar and write boring songs. It's the hypocrisy that gets me when Liam goes on and on about rock n roll and going balls to the wall 24/7 then a majority of his songs are soft and girly.
Who was the one that wrote the good rockers on the last album? The boring old man.
Liam's obviously still got it on stage, as his latest vocals confirm, but he needs a reality check when it comes to his own music. Beady Eye are rock n roll lite.
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