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Post by OasisFan199 on Mar 1, 2011 8:46:49 GMT -5
The Free Single of the week certainly is helping. Its funny reading all the reviews of the single...NO ONE seems to know who they are...like they are a new band. Which for the US, is likely a positive...Oasis has a negative perception with the average american.
GO BEADY EYE!!!!!
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Post by deasy on Mar 1, 2011 9:11:45 GMT -5
#8 now. And since iTunes has a 24 hour rolling chart, it will keep improving until midnight
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Post by pixarito on Mar 1, 2011 9:42:26 GMT -5
Yeah, not a lot of people like The Beat Goes On. the reviews are interesting.
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Post by deasy on Mar 1, 2011 10:14:16 GMT -5
Album #3 Canada iTunes
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Post by ETrilk on Mar 1, 2011 10:18:12 GMT -5
That's awesome! Still at #8. Thinking about buying it twice just to help the lads out.
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Post by music89 on Mar 1, 2011 10:19:26 GMT -5
just checked, up to #7 now on the US iTunes, not bad, lets see if they can crack the Billboard top 200, that would really be great.
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Post by deasy on Mar 1, 2011 10:21:11 GMT -5
just checked, up to #7 now on the US iTunes, not bad, lets see if they can crack the Billboard top 200, that would really be great. I think it can potentially go top 20
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Post by deasy on Mar 1, 2011 10:25:28 GMT -5
Update: #6 US iTunes
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2011 10:41:29 GMT -5
This is still not enough. It prob will not go Top 20. BDI are not going to be able to do enough in the physical sales to make it. Time Flies held a top 5 US ITUNES spot for a couple of days, but charted outside the the Top 100 on the Billboard 200.
Don't expect anything more than a Top 50. It won't make it to Top 20, especially because it will probably tail off in the 24-48 hours. Thyey won't have the physical sales to get to top 20.
In the end Itunes is only a fraction of overall sales. A good chunk of that fraction yes, but only a fraction.
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Post by wonderplan on Mar 1, 2011 10:58:05 GMT -5
I would venture to say physical sales aren't what they use to be as time goes on more & more are buying digital. the itunes chart is a good indication how well it is currently selling. will it keep that momentum? probably not since they aren't doing much promoting here currently states side. when they come in june things just might pick up.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2011 11:05:08 GMT -5
I would venture to say physical sales aren't what they use to be as time goes on more & more are buying digital. the itunes chart is a good indication how well it is currently selling. will it keep that momentum? probably not since they aren't doing much promoting here currently states side. when they come in june things just might pick up. No, the ITUNES really arent. Lets put it this way, Oasis also had a #1 spot on Itunes and were littered across the top 20 (cause of multiple formats of DOYS), and barely charted in the Top 5. Its not. You have to sell a good chunk in physical sales. Physical sales are not as strong as they once were, but that does not mean that they do not still make up a large chunk of album sales. Physical sales still do make up at least 30% of album sales. If don't sell anything in that 30-40% range (physical sales), then you take a major hit in the overall position. ITUNES are not the greatest indicator. Its a great indicator with major artists, but with small middle of the road artists like BDI. You can chart high in ITUNES, but not make that Top 20. Its happened a lot, before.
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Post by jlzoasis on Mar 1, 2011 11:21:16 GMT -5
I just wanted to point out that I was at Barnes & Noble this morning just to get the American copy and I asked if they had it and the girl was like "Oh yea! We had ONE copy and I sold it early this morning...I was flabbergasted...ONE??! I am not sure what the physical sales will be with ONE cd to each store... Anyways the person who brought that ONE Beady Eye album at the Barnes & Noble in Lake Grove, NY I salute you...
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Post by oasisfanboy on Mar 1, 2011 11:52:14 GMT -5
^ I salute them also, just as I salute the person who asked for it in Rebel Rebel in Greenwich Village right in front of me!
So what do we think will be a result here in the US. Top 20?
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Post by wonderplan on Mar 1, 2011 12:44:47 GMT -5
I would venture to say physical sales aren't what they use to be as time goes on more & more are buying digital. the itunes chart is a good indication how well it is currently selling. will it keep that momentum? probably not since they aren't doing much promoting here currently states side. when they come in june things just might pick up. No, the ITUNES really arent. Lets put it this way, Oasis also had a #1 spot on Itunes and were littered across the top 20 (cause of multiple formats of DOYS), and barely charted in the Top 5. Its not. You have to sell a good chunk in physical sales. Physical sales are not as strong as they once were, but that does not mean that they do not still make up a large chunk of album sales. Physical sales still do make up at least 30% of album sales. If don't sell anything in that 30-40% range (physical sales), then you take a major hit in the overall position. ITUNES are not the greatest indicator. Its a great indicator with major artists, but with small middle of the road artists like BDI. You can chart high in ITUNES, but not make that Top 20. Its happened a lot, before. that was a few years ago under a different band name. the times have changed. you throw alot of percentages out there but i'd love to know where you are actually getting this data? the album was #1 on the international chart last week with only selling 28,572 copies. doys made #5 here in the us i'm not too worried for beady eye tbh. the glass is also half full as opposed to only looking at it half empty.
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Post by ETrilk on Mar 1, 2011 12:48:06 GMT -5
^ I salute them also, just as I salute the person who asked for it in Rebel Rebel in Greenwich Village right in front of me! So what do we think will be a result here in the US. Top 20? I think that that is certainly realistic.
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2011 12:51:11 GMT -5
No, the ITUNES really arent. Lets put it this way, Oasis also had a #1 spot on Itunes and were littered across the top 20 (cause of multiple formats of DOYS), and barely charted in the Top 5. Its not. You have to sell a good chunk in physical sales. Physical sales are not as strong as they once were, but that does not mean that they do not still make up a large chunk of album sales. Physical sales still do make up at least 30% of album sales. If don't sell anything in that 30-40% range (physical sales), then you take a major hit in the overall position. ITUNES are not the greatest indicator. Its a great indicator with major artists, but with small middle of the road artists like BDI. You can chart high in ITUNES, but not make that Top 20. Its happened a lot, before. that was a few years ago under a different band name. the times have changed. you throw alot of percentages out there but i'd love to know where you are actually getting this data? the album was #1 on the international chart last week with only selling 28,572 copies. doys made #5 here in the us i'm not too worried for beady eye tbh. the glass is also half full as opposed to only looking at it half empty. They havent changed that much . Time will tell, but if you wanna look at a recent example, look at Time Flies. Look at its Itunes numbers and then compare it to where it charted. You still need to sell physical copies to chart high. They'll chart just outside the top 20. It doesnt take a large percentage to knock an album down some spots on a major chart. The only way it wouldn't is if ITUNES made up about 90% of the charts. But it doesn't. Album sales overall in 2010 were 362.2 million in the US, of that 240 million were physical and digital only made up about 86.3 million. Yes physical sales are going down, but not to a point where they don't matter. www.digitalmusicnews.com/stories/010511yearendstats
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Post by oneeye on Mar 1, 2011 13:16:14 GMT -5
it would be a success if they got top 10 in the US
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Post by mkoasis on Mar 1, 2011 14:02:08 GMT -5
Those iTunes chart positions are certainly higher than I woudl have thought. I think the really cheap price for the bundle certainly was a factor.
I jus went out to buy my copy this morning and the special edition version is $16.79, whereas on the iTunes its $7.99.
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Post by wonderplan on Mar 1, 2011 14:10:00 GMT -5
just picked up the single disc album at best buy marked $14 but rang up for 8 something. time flies was a greatest hits/singles collection most of which most of the fans already had & i don't remember much of any promotion for that stateside.
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Post by wonderplan on Mar 1, 2011 14:16:15 GMT -5
2010 "Digital Track Sales: 1.172 billion" says it all there really no ones really buying albums anymore
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Post by spaneli on Mar 1, 2011 14:40:49 GMT -5
2010 "Digital Track Sales: 1.172 billion" says it all there really no ones really buying albums anymore Too bad tracks don't actually count for album sales. Doesn't really matter what stat you pull out. The plain fact of the matter is that you have to sell some physical copies of an album. not certain tracks to chart on the album chart. If it were about certain tracks then it wouldn't matter. But its not, whether this charts high isn't dependent on track sales, its dependent on album sales. Physical and digital, and digital in terms of album sales does make up a large enough piece of the pie to alone catapult an artist to the top 20 in album sales. Do people buy albums in droves anymore, no. But that really wasnt why this conversation started. In terms of album sales in the US, ITUNES alone is not enough.
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Post by wonderplan on Mar 1, 2011 15:06:45 GMT -5
2010 "Digital Track Sales: 1.172 billion" says it all there really no ones really buying albums anymore Too bad tracks don't actually count for album sales. Doesn't really matter what stat you pull out. The plain fact of the matter is that you have to sell some physical copies of an album. not certain tracks to chart on the album chart. If it were about certain tracks then it wouldn't matter. But its not, whether this charts high isn't dependent on track sales, its dependent on album sales. Physical and digital, and digital in terms of album sales does make up a large enough piece of the pie to alone catapult an artist to the top 20 in album sales. Do people buy albums in droves anymore, no. But that really wasnt why this conversation started. In terms of album sales in the US, ITUNES alone is not enough. i was commenting on what you posted & making conversation not debating with you. i found it surprising the very high number of digital single track sales. it would appear that's where most of the money is in this era. relax spaneli we all heard you the first time
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Post by deasy on Mar 1, 2011 18:45:18 GMT -5
#2 in Canada now. Still #6 in US but it's the 5th highest album
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 1, 2011 18:54:19 GMT -5
Why are there more reviews on the US iTunes page than the UK one? The UK should be bigger for BDI, AND they've had it released a day earlier, too....Weird.
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Post by putthisin ® on Mar 1, 2011 19:08:29 GMT -5
Why are there more reviews on the US iTunes page than the UK one? The UK should be bigger for BDI, AND they've had it released a day earlier, too....Weird. Maybe because TBGO was released as an itunes free track over there
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