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Post by Digsy's Dinner on Feb 28, 2011 9:05:41 GMT -5
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Post by BEng on Feb 28, 2011 10:46:32 GMT -5
That was a really good interview!
Love
"Just because the single goes in at Number 31 or whatever doesn’t mean that we’re a shit band. It’s just that the times have changed and we haven’t."
And I always wanted to ask the next question to Liam myself =)
Say it’s 2014 and someone approaches you with a huge suitcase of cash to reform Oasis for the 20th anniversary of ‘Definitely Maybe’, would you do it?
LG: I know that through my previous work with Oasis that I don’t need it just yet. I’m not going to say, 'Never', but at the moment no fucking chance. But it wouldn’t be for money, mate. I like to think that if we did get back together - which we fucking won’t - but if we did then it would be for the fans. It would be for the people and the music and not for fucking money. Fuck that shit!
Also a nice bit about baldness...
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Post by Didi on Feb 28, 2011 10:50:13 GMT -5
LG: I know that through my previous work with Oasis that I don’t need it just yet. I’m not going to say, 'Never', but at the moment no fucking chance. But it wouldn’t be for money, mate. I like to think that if we did get back together - which we fucking won’t - but if we did then it would be for the fans. It would be for the people and the music and not for fucking money. Fuck that shit! good answer  |
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Post by mezmerised on Feb 28, 2011 17:14:17 GMT -5
I like parts of it (especially the ones already posted in this thread) but for most of the interview Liam sounds really pissed off! Recently he has given so many great, insightful interviews about the break up and Oasis in general and here suddenly he is so super aggressive against Noel again...
I always wonder what could be responsible for these mood changes. It's strange but if they are really not talking to each other and since Noel isn't saying anything in the press atm it can only be something that other people tell them about each other. Not a good situation IMO.
I also don't get why Andy and Liam do an interview with the Quietus in the first place. They didn't have much respect for Oasis, praised the break-up and afterwards had an article firmly in favor of Noel (Noel was portrayed as being somewhat of underachiever in recent years but with great talent and much potential for a solo career. Liam was predicted to become an end of the peer- style singer for the rest of his life).
What they had to say about Noel there was actually quite interesting but is was totally marred by the fact that they didn't give Liam any credit whatsoever.
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Post by discworld on Feb 28, 2011 17:19:18 GMT -5
I like parts of it (especially the ones already posted in this thread) but for most of the interview Liam sounds really pissed off! Recently he has given so many great, insightful interviews about the break up and Oasis in general and here suddenly he is so super aggressive against Noel again... I always wonder what could be responsible for these mood changes. It's strange but if they are really not talking to each other and since Noel isn't saying anything in the press atm it can only be something that other people tell them about each other. Not a good situation IMO. I also don't get why Andy and Liam do an interview with the Quietus in the first place. They didn't have much respect for Oasis, praised the break-up and afterwards had an article firmly in favor of Noel (Noel was portrayed as being somewhat of underachiever in recent years but with great talent and much potential for a solo career. Liam was predicted to become an end of the peer- style singer for the rest of his life). What they had to say about Noel there was actually quite interesting but is was totally marred by the fact that they didn't give Liam any credit whatsoever. Gem wasn't around so Liam was free to say all the bad things he wanted. ;D |
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Post by bwilder on Feb 28, 2011 21:24:30 GMT -5
Wow. I have to digest that. Very interesting.
Especially the bit about people coming back to the dressing room drinking his beer after slagging him off. Little bits from what really happened that night keeping seeping up. Interesting...
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Post by ToneBender on Mar 1, 2011 7:58:12 GMT -5
I thought this was one of the more telling parts of the interview:
"Both of us hired people and if anyone sacked anybody then it was Noel Gallagher. He sacked [drummer Alan White] Whitey, he sacked Bonehead, he sacked Guigsy [bassist, Paul McGuigan] and whoever else it fucking was but the hiring came from both of us. Noel Gallagher hired everyone? Fuck off, mate!"
I don't think there's any doubt that Liam is happy to have Andy and Gem and Chris, but he was particularly close with Alan and Bonehead. I would imagine that Liam probably resented the businesslike manner that Noel managed the personnel around and within the band with. He's a deeply loyal individual; I'm sure that didn't play well with him.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Mar 1, 2011 8:14:50 GMT -5
I like parts of it (especially the ones already posted in this thread) but for most of the interview Liam sounds really pissed off! Recently he has given so many great, insightful interviews about the break up and Oasis in general and here suddenly he is so super aggressive against Noel again... I always wonder what could be responsible for these mood changes. It's strange but if they are really not talking to each other and since Noel isn't saying anything in the press atm it can only be something that other people tell them about each other. Not a good situation IMO. I also don't get why Andy and Liam do an interview with the Quietus in the first place. They didn't have much respect for Oasis, praised the break-up and afterwards had an article firmly in favor of Noel (Noel was portrayed as being somewhat of underachiever in recent years but with great talent and much potential for a solo career. Liam was predicted to become an end of the peer- style singer for the rest of his life). What they had to say about Noel there was actually quite interesting but is was totally marred by the fact that they didn't give Liam any credit whatsoever. Maybe Liam has a decent reason to feel aggressive towards Noel? |
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Post by mezmerised on Mar 1, 2011 13:44:33 GMT -5
Maybe Liam has a decent reason to feel aggressive towards Noel? Could be, but why these crazy mood changes? A couple of days ago he gave interviews were he basically said that they both made mistakes but that Noel is much more to blame for the break-up etc. And he was quite calm and level-headed when talking about Oasis. Now Noel is this major jerk again who is to blame for everything that ever happened. Where does his anger suddenly come from? It's almost as if he got a phone call just minutes before the interview started and somebody went 'You'll never believe what Noel just said about you...' I also find it weird when he says they don't sort it out because people around them don't make them. I get it that they have very different circles of friends and that they don't like each others friends but why have these friends any influence on whether or not Noel and Liam get on? |
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Post by discworld on Mar 1, 2011 13:55:58 GMT -5
I thought this was one of the more telling parts of the interview: "Both of us hired people and if anyone sacked anybody then it was Noel Gallagher. He sacked [drummer Alan White] Whitey, he sacked Bonehead, he sacked Guigsy [bassist, Paul McGuigan] and whoever else it fucking was but the hiring came from both of us. Noel Gallagher hired everyone? Fuck off, mate!" I don't think there's any doubt that Liam is happy to have Andy and Gem and Chris, but he was particularly close with Alan and Bonehead. I would imagine that Liam probably resented the businesslike manner that Noel managed the personnel around and within the band with. He's a deeply loyal individual; I'm sure that didn't play well with him. Liam claimed several times he sacked Alan. |
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Post by mezmerised on Mar 1, 2011 13:58:13 GMT -5
I thought this was one of the more telling parts of the interview: "Both of us hired people and if anyone sacked anybody then it was Noel Gallagher. He sacked [drummer Alan White] Whitey, he sacked Bonehead, he sacked Guigsy [bassist, Paul McGuigan] and whoever else it fucking was but the hiring came from both of us. Noel Gallagher hired everyone? Fuck off, mate!" I don't think there's any doubt that Liam is happy to have Andy and Gem and Chris, but he was particularly close with Alan and Bonehead. I would imagine that Liam probably resented the businesslike manner that Noel managed the personnel around and within the band with. He's a deeply loyal individual; I'm sure that didn't play well with him. But Noel didn't sack Bonehead. He left after an argument with Noel, because he felt Oasis in general wasn't that much fun anymore and because he wanted to spend more time with his family. That's what Bonehead said himself. Guigs also left on his own accord. Noel only ever said sacked Tony McCarroll and Whitey. And if Liam really didn't want Whitey to get fired then why didn't he say so back then? Yes, we all know that Noel was the main decision maker in Oasis but that doesn't mean he can make any decision alone as he sees fit. Especially when Liam strongly disagrees. And especially in the question of who shoud or should not be in the band. Personally I think for whatever reason Liam gave his OK when Noel wanted Alan gone. And I think it's a bit shit to blame it now all on Noel and act as if he never had any say at all in his own band. |
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Post by ToneBender on Mar 1, 2011 19:18:06 GMT -5
I thought this was one of the more telling parts of the interview: "Both of us hired people and if anyone sacked anybody then it was Noel Gallagher. He sacked [drummer Alan White] Whitey, he sacked Bonehead, he sacked Guigsy [bassist, Paul McGuigan] and whoever else it fucking was but the hiring came from both of us. Noel Gallagher hired everyone? Fuck off, mate!" I don't think there's any doubt that Liam is happy to have Andy and Gem and Chris, but he was particularly close with Alan and Bonehead. I would imagine that Liam probably resented the businesslike manner that Noel managed the personnel around and within the band with. He's a deeply loyal individual; I'm sure that didn't play well with him. But Noel didn't sack Bonehead. He left after an argument with Noel, because he felt Oasis in general wasn't that much fun anymore and because he wanted to spend more time with his family. That's what Bonehead said himself. Guigs also left on his own accord. Noel only ever said sacked Tony McCarroll and Whitey. And if Liam really didn't want Whitey to get fired then why didn't he say so back then? Yes, we all know that Noel was the main decision maker in Oasis but that doesn't mean he can make any decision alone as he sees fit. Especially when Liam strongly disagrees. And especially in the question of who shoud or should not be in the band. Personally I think for whatever reason Liam gave his OK when Noel wanted Alan gone. And I think it's a bit shit to blame it now all on Noel and act as if he never had any say at all in his own band. Bonehead left because Noel busted in his room and poured a bottle of wine over his head after Bonehead did it to Spike Stent. Guigs left after witnessing this. Noel ran the ship. Perhaps Liam did say something about Whitey? Every interview that Liam AND the rest of the band have given sees to back Liam up. Gem has made more than a few statements backing up Liam as had Andy. Chris joined them as well. Zak's band is opening for them on a few gigs. We've seen a few public exchanges between Liam and Bonehead to indicate that they're on good terms. If all of these people have shown their allegiance to Liam rather than Noel, perhaps that should say something about Noel's managerial style. |
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Post by mezmerised on Mar 1, 2011 21:29:03 GMT -5
Bonehead left because Noel busted in his room and poured a bottle of wine over his head after Bonehead did it to Spike Stent. Guigs left after witnessing this. Noel ran the ship. Perhaps Liam did say something about Whitey? Every interview that Liam AND the rest of the band have given sees to back Liam up. Gem has made more than a few statements backing up Liam as had Andy. Chris joined them as well. Zak's band is opening for them on a few gigs. We've seen a few public exchanges between Liam and Bonehead to indicate that they're on good terms. If all of these people have shown their allegiance to Liam rather than Noel, perhaps that should say something about Noel's managerial style. I know the wine bottle story, not sure if that's also the reason why Guigs left (since he never really said why) but my point was that Noel did not sack them and obviously we agree on that. If Liam really had such a problem with Whitey's sacking then he should have put his foot down back then. He could have refused to sing on any songs with a new drummer on them. That would have put Noel in a bit of a predicament. The least he could have done would have been to publicly speak up for Alan or to openly call Noel out for firing him. I thought Liam was all about being real and speaking his mind... I've never heard Bonehead say a bad word about Noel (or Noel about Bonehead for that matter). The same goes for Gem! I agree that Noel seems to have had a bit of a falling out with Andy, Whitey and obviously Tony Mc but I think it would be unfair to put the blame solely on Noel. Zak always says he liked everyone in Oasis. It's also a bit misleading to judge their relationships on who is seen with who in public. Liam has always been more of a people person and likes/needs to have people around him all the time. Noel likes to do stuff on his own. That's just a personality thing. You also never see Paul G and Noel together in public, but you often see him with Liam and now he even works for him. I don't think that means that Paul only likes Liam and can't stand Noel. I have no problem with Liam, I think he is great! I just think it's sad that he's still so angry about everything. I actually thought he has become more at peace with the situation in the last couple of months... And obviously Noel has made mistakes during his time in Oasis. But I think it's ridiculous for Liam to be pissed about Noel firing people now, when it's a fact that he never did anything about it back when it counted. |
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Post by ToneBender on Mar 2, 2011 8:15:28 GMT -5
Bonehead left because Noel busted in his room and poured a bottle of wine over his head after Bonehead did it to Spike Stent. Guigs left after witnessing this. Noel ran the ship. Perhaps Liam did say something about Whitey? Every interview that Liam AND the rest of the band have given sees to back Liam up. Gem has made more than a few statements backing up Liam as had Andy. Chris joined them as well. Zak's band is opening for them on a few gigs. We've seen a few public exchanges between Liam and Bonehead to indicate that they're on good terms. If all of these people have shown their allegiance to Liam rather than Noel, perhaps that should say something about Noel's managerial style. I know the wine bottle story, not sure if that's also the reason why Guigs left (since he never really said why) but my point was that Noel did not sack them and obviously we agree on that. If Liam really had such a problem with Whitey's sacking then he should have put his foot down back then. He could have refused to sing on any songs with a new drummer on them. That would have put Noel in a bit of a predicament. The least he could have done would have been to publicly speak up for Alan or to openly call Noel out for firing him. I thought Liam was all about being real and speaking his mind... I've never heard Bonehead say a bad word about Noel (or Noel about Bonehead for that matter). The same goes for Gem! I agree that Noel seems to have had a bit of a falling out with Andy, Whitey and obviously Tony Mc but I think it would be unfair to put the blame solely on Noel. Zak always says he liked everyone in Oasis. It's also a bit misleading to judge their relationships on who is seen with who in public. Liam has always been more of a people person and likes/needs to have people around him all the time. Noel likes to do stuff on his own. That's just a personality thing. You also never see Paul G and Noel together in public, but you often see him with Liam and now he even works for him. I don't think that means that Paul only likes Liam and can't stand Noel. I have no problem with Liam, I think he is great! I just think it's sad that he's still so angry about everything. I actually thought he has become more at peace with the situation in the last couple of months... And obviously Noel has made mistakes during his time in Oasis. But I think it's ridiculous for Liam to be pissed about Noel firing people now, when it's a fact that he never did anything about it back when it counted. There were a few recent interviews where Gem stated that Noel's statement on the website was outrageous, that Noel "isn't intimidated by anyone" (basically calling his statement BS) and that he and Noel have barely spoken in a year+ after stating that Noel was a "very big part of his life". He seems a bit burned to me, no? I'm not suggesting that Liam was perfect throughout the years but I recall more than a few derogatory statements that Noel made about Liam when they were sorting out the band after Guigsy and Bonehead left. I'll paraphrase here, "He stared freaking out and all that like 'oh what are we going to do?' and I said 'Calm down, stop whining, I'll sort it out, I shall devise a plan and it shall be better than any plan before it.'", or something to that effect. Am I also recalling correctly that Liam was the one that pushed for Death In Vegas only to see Noel scrap that? Noel ran the ship; Liam is allowed to vent. I'd imagine that after 18 years, any normal person would have a little bit of aggression, especially when they haven't spoken and gotten any closure on it in 1 1/2 years. |
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Post by discworld on Mar 2, 2011 9:14:55 GMT -5
Liam claimed he sacked Alan (LG thought that Alan lacked of motivation)
Gem played with Noel at the TCT 2011 ans said he still considered NG as a friend. Liam stated that every member of the band had good relations with NG except him.
For the Death in Vegas, both Liam and Noel said they didn't have the songs when they started to work with them.
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