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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 10:33:45 GMT -5
What a time to be 15/16/17 and discover music, in 1994/95/96. RIP Oasis (with Bonehead, Guigs & Whitey). Love BDI tho. good times. |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 10:37:11 GMT -5
unless those previews take a dramatic turn they're simply not better than the best songs on DOYS, i.e. 'TSOTL' and 'FD'., sorry tomlivesforever, i know you think you're a God amidst the Oasis sections of this forum but that's the simple truth. While tomlivesforever has constructed a good argument throughout this thread, I'm shocked he hasn't used this thread as a prime example of your pomposity. "That's the simple truth"? Really? Your opinion is not the simple truth, pal. As for the original topic, there's no way of knowing since I've heard one and not the other. I hope I prefer it, but how can I form an educated opinion having not heard one of the albums? and oh yeah, Mr. Big Star IS the best band of the 70's. |
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Feb 12, 2011 10:48:53 GMT -5
I love the first half of DOYS - up to and including FD, minus High Horse. But I think the second half is rubbish. Annoyingly, Record Machine and that other one (Come On It's Alright?!) might have saved that half. I also have an idea that I Believe In All would've added energy. It's all a bit plodding. 1.Bag It Up 2.The Turning 3.Waiting for the Rapture 4.The Shock of the Lightning 5.I'm Outta Time 6.(Get Off Your) High Horse Lady 7.Falling Down 8.I Believe in All 9.To Be Where There's Life (A Richard Fearless Production) 10.Boy with the Blues 11.Soldier On That is how i listen to it.... |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 11:51:02 GMT -5
While tomlivesforever has constructed a good argument throughout this thread, I'm shocked he hasn't used this thread as a prime example of your pomposity. "That's the simple truth"? Really? Your opinion is not the simple truth, pal. As for the original topic, there's no way of knowing since I've heard one and not the other. I hope I prefer it, but how can I form an educated opinion having not heard one of the albums? and oh yeah, Mr. Big Star IS the best band of the 70's. Yes, I do think they were. I don't think I came off as arrogant and all-knowing as you constantly do, though. Seriously, everything you say has a negative overtone to it. |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 12:01:53 GMT -5
and oh yeah, Mr. Big Star IS the best band of the 70's. Yes, I do think they were. I don't think I came off as arrogant and all-knowing as you constantly do, though. Seriously, everything you say has a negative overtone to it. If bands got well-known from writing great songs Big Star would be considered the greatest band of the '70s, as they were. |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 12:18:07 GMT -5
^ Yes, I think that they were. Perhaps I should have put "in my opinion" afterward, but surely you can see the difference between what I said (where I left it ambiguous as to whether I was being hard-nosed in my belief) and what you said (where you left nothing to the imagination, blatantly calling it "the simple truth").
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 12:23:13 GMT -5
^ Yes, I think that they were. Perhaps I should have put "in my opinion" afterward, but surely you can see the difference between what I said (where I left it ambiguous as to whether I was being hard-nosed in my belief) and what you said (where you left nothing to the imagination, blatantly calling it "the simple truth"). in my opinion i don't see any difference in the matter of fact opinions. |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 12:25:34 GMT -5
Okay, are we done now?
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Post by doco on Feb 12, 2011 12:42:48 GMT -5
DOYS is weak towards the end as previous posters have said and of that there's no doubt. I thought upto track 7 it was a pretty good album then practically collapsed. I seem to recall Noel wrote 6 out the first 7 songs which says it all really.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 12:46:23 GMT -5
i guess. that is until i give my unabashed opinion or you try to bullshit your way out of giving yours. |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 13:19:21 GMT -5
i guess. that is until i give my unabashed opinion or you try to bullshit your way out of giving yours. It may seem like I'm "bullshitting" to you, but really it's just trying to show some respect. It's the internet and I understand that, but I don't buy into the "oh, well, this guy will never see me in real life so I'll act however I want". |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 13:21:04 GMT -5
And for the record, when have I bullshitted my way out of giving my opinion? I didn't give my opinion on this particular subject because I haven't heard the album yet. But that makes perfect sense. I don't form an opinion on a movie based on a 2 minute trailer and various clips of the movie I saw on talk shows. I wait until watching the whole thing, in its entirety.
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 13:26:33 GMT -5
It's the internet and I understand that, but I don't buy into the "oh, well, this guy will never see me in real life so I'll act however I want". i don't know where all that came from. i wasn't talking or quoting you about your opinion of the BDI album. it was about your Big Star statement. |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 13:33:40 GMT -5
why isn't the damn smite option working?
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Feb 12, 2011 13:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 13:39:03 GMT -5
It's the internet and I understand that, but I don't buy into the "oh, well, this guy will never see me in real life so I'll act however I want". i don't know where all that came from. i wasn't talking or quoting you about your opinion of the BDI album. it was about your Big Star statement. Every time I see a post of yours it's negative. I'm assuming it's an internet persona, but perhaps you're just like that in real life. In case that's true, here's some karma! Have a good day, man! ;D |
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Post by eva Fawkes on Feb 12, 2011 13:40:32 GMT -5
i don't know where all that came from. i wasn't talking or quoting you about your opinion of the BDI album. it was about your Big Star statement. Every time I see a post of yours it's negative. I'm assuming it's an internet persona, but perhaps you're just like that in real life. In case that's true, here's some karma! Have a good day, man! ;D in real life i'm much more annoying, you have no idea. i tone it way down here. |
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Post by manualex on Feb 12, 2011 13:42:31 GMT -5
Where were you yesterday? we needed ya then ;D |
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 12, 2011 13:42:56 GMT -5
LOL well...I'll hold on to my belief that you're just a big ol' softy on the inside. Good day, sir.
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Post by deasy on Feb 12, 2011 13:55:54 GMT -5
Calm down Dave
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Post by wonderplan on Feb 12, 2011 16:53:57 GMT -5
just judging by the previews, i feel DGSS will flow consistently better than DOYS did. Liam sounds more energetic & youthful & charismatic on DGSS than he does on the majority of the DOYS tracks. but as other users have pointed out replacing some of the lesser tracks with I Believe In All & Boy With The Blues would have really made DOYS stronger. It was a good album but not a great album. I also agree with an earlier poster stating the melodies will be stronger on DGSS. Just listening to them puts a bounce into my steps
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Post by qwerty123 on Feb 12, 2011 17:17:21 GMT -5
The problem with DOYS was Liam, Gem and Andy.
The problem with DGSS is the same.
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Post by BlueJay on Feb 12, 2011 18:18:32 GMT -5
It makes you think how if Liam, Gem and Andy had put a bit more quality control on the album it had the potential to be a classic.
For instance, if Wind-Up Dream, Standing On the Edge of the Noise and Beatles & Stones were omitted it would be 10 very class tracks in my opinion.
While Noel did go a bit far in quality control, leaving atrociously brilliant songs off LPs (Acquiesce, Listen Up, The Masterplan, Stay Young, Lets All Make Believe, Record Machine), he did have a sense of making sure that an album consisted of the very best tracks he'd written in a period to a limit of 10-11 songs. This made sure that that there were never many fillers on an album (especially never in the 90s).
Beady Eye however seems to have just gone all out and put every song they've written lately on the album (with the exception of World Outside My Room), rather than fine-tuning it to only consist of their highest-quality tracks. This shows a lack of maturity in my opinion - although it could be that the others understandably didn't want to challenge Liam on this topic.
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Post by The Morning Son on Feb 12, 2011 18:40:13 GMT -5
Noel did have a sense of making sure that an album consisted of the very best tracks he'd written in a period to a limit of 10-11 songs Really? I'd say that apart from the first 2 albums, every Oasis album has had at least 2 weak tracks on it and in most cases there has been much better b-sides from the same era. For me Beady Eye maybe doing the same or maybe they just didnt have enough songs to have the luxury of leaving the likes of SOTEOTN & WUD off. These songs may even be good songs, we haven't heard the album yet. |
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Post by Level 03 on Feb 12, 2011 18:49:10 GMT -5
No way...
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