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I'm with you on this. I think one of the biggest reasons why Oasis/Beady Eye gets slagged is more because there is no longer this "head over heels" love affair that fans have with the band(s) as opposed to the songwriting. I, for one, think that Noel has written some songs in the last several years that are just as good as anything on DM, WTSMG, and BHN. Some better, some just as good, some not as good. It's just hard to compete with that rush that we all endured from 1994-1997. You just gotta grow with the music, that's all.

I'm not expecting a classic, i've been impressed by the reviews so far (Sure they were going to slate it), but i'll wait to make up my own mind, the 30 sec preview clips sound great but again i want to hear the full thing.

A decent album i'll be happy with, i'm not expecting a classic to stand the test of time. 13 new songs to listen to is great plus a tour as well. That'll do me.

I am starting to get the idea that there is too much over-analyzation with regards to Beady Eye. No one ever matches the hype, not even Oasis (see Be Here Now).

Let's just enjoy what we have in DGSS.

Agreed. It's NEVER going to be the early days of Oasis when Noel Gallagher farted all time classics for breakfast. Nor are we ever going to have the anticipation of going to the CD shop on release day and buying Morning Glory or Be Here Now, and hearing it for the first time.

But then, I'm very much enjoying everything about BDI thus far. No, we've not yet heard any major (TIOBI, SCYHO) nor minor (GLIO, TT, BIU, Songbird) classics. Nor, for that matter, any pieces of trash (ICSAL, PYMWYMI, FON, TNOR, most of the later b-sides).

It's all been consistently good (BTL, BAS) to very good (TR, FLW, SOTS, WOMR). The best of BDI so far, to my ears, would sit at the toppish end of latter day Oasis.

Even better, it seems like they're all totally into the project, they're enthusiastic, and we're gonna get some superb live shows. Not like Oasis where it was obvious that Noel was on a different page (see the arguments over Record Machine, etc).

And all reports suggest we haven't yet heard the diamonds on the BDI album - Wigwam and The Beat Goes On!

I'm enjoying the Beady Eye tracks released so far and the thirty second clips sound pretty good. But then that's no surprise- I'm in the 'staple target BE demographic' as are a great many on this board- I'm a huge Oasis fan and a fan of The Beatles, early Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Faces and that era of music in general. DGSS seems (from what I've heard) well produced, well played by deft musicians and well sung by a singer, who, whilst he will never recapture his glory days, is singing with greater power, clarity and determination than in recent years. And yes, they all look cool as fuck and wear their 'rock n' roll' hearts proudly on their sleeves. That's what I want, that's what I love and I'll be happy cranking the record.

However, there is SIMPLY NO DENYING (whether you see it as a negative or a positive) that the tracks are highly derivative of an era their creators love. People on this board will argue until the cows come home about whether this fact 'invalidates' the band or makes them great. But it is undeniably true. It doesn't incense me like it does some others. I see no point in picking the songs to pieces and saying this riff sounds like My Generation or that one like Instant Karma or another like All You Need is Love etc. etc. It's a big and obvious melting pot of direct influences.

My main concern is that, despite several reasonable reviews so far, the wider music world that desserted Oasis entirely post 1997 will heap scorn on DGSS. Certainly outside of the UK, Japan and parts of Europe where Oasis worship still exists, the record will go largely ignored. In Australia this is a certainty and in the U.S, probably also (outside of certain parts of that country where some radio stations still champion the Gallaghers' work). Beady Eye have certainly embraced their influences much more directly and obviously than Oasis ever did (Oasis' earliest and most vital work didn't sound overly like the Beatles anyway in my opinion). Have they taken it too far? Only time will tell... There is a really fine line between 'homage' and 'parody'. Noel at his best embraced the 'homage' and added his own unique touches (TIOBI, CandA, Hello and numerous others) and at times he treaded the slippery slope of parody ("Who Feels Love", "Let There Be Love", "Part of the Queue"). I hope Beady Eye aren't mauled critically for mining this somewhat "difficult" genre. Other "retro bands" in recent years have done it to positive receptions- Tame Impala, JET, Wolfmother and to a lesser extent, Kasabian. But they didn't have a gobby Gallagher in their ranks, ripe for a critical kicking. We all know cock knockers like Pitchfork will get the boot right in (Beatles and Stones will be like shooting fish in a barrel for them).

I will probably enjoy the record regardless and for those that don't (and there will be many), there's always a swathe of 'cutting edge' ,'vital' and 'forward thinking' records from a whole host of indie bands with spiky guitar riffs and throbbing bass lines. Then there's the introspective lyrics written by earnest, tight trousered, tortured young souls with the arse hanging out of their jeans and their stiff, brill cream parted coiffures matched by equally absurd, garishly coloured, eighties throwback hoodies. "It beats me mama, I just wana rock and roll"...

If you like good singing, good playing, good harmonies and cleart production, then it's a good record.