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Post by Rolo on Jan 22, 2011 8:44:28 GMT -5
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2011 8:55:58 GMT -5
When does that edition come out Rolo?
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Post by Rolo on Jan 22, 2011 9:02:16 GMT -5
It says it's the March edition but I'm sure we'll be able to get hold of it within the next few weeks.
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jan 22, 2011 9:46:23 GMT -5
Well I can't get a hooky PDF copy no. Not unless the usual outlets start providing it. NME and UNCUT, fine. Q and MOJO, no.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Jan 22, 2011 9:54:06 GMT -5
Lead review of the month by Keith Cameron with short interview with Liam and Gem. 3 stars out of 5. Says Bring The Light is the best thing on the album although The Beat Goes On is good too. Pretty good review i.e. reviewer is honest about Liam, Gem and Andy's songwriting ability compared to Noel. I ain't got a scanner though, sorry.
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Post by deasy on Jan 22, 2011 10:00:46 GMT -5
Lead review of the month by Keith Cameron with short interview with Liam and Gem. 3 stars out of 5. Says Bring The Light is the best thing on the album although The Beat Goes On is good too. Pretty good review i.e. reviewer is honest about Liam, Gem and Andy's songwriting ability compared to Noel. I ain't got a scanner though, sorry. Jesus
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Post by Bring It On Dan on Jan 22, 2011 10:05:36 GMT -5
LOL, really shows that they know nothing if they say that BTL is the best, when we've already heard FLW and know that it's miles better. Who cares about reviews, it's about what you personally think that matters.
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Post by bonkers on Jan 22, 2011 10:07:00 GMT -5
Lead review of the month by Keith Cameron with short interview with Liam and Gem. 3 stars out of 5. Says Bring The Light is the best thing on the album although The Beat Goes On is good too. Pretty good review i.e. reviewer is honest about Liam, Gem and Andy's songwriting ability compared to Noel. I ain't got a scanner though, sorry. Jesus short but sweet reply ;D
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Post by bonkers on Jan 22, 2011 10:08:30 GMT -5
i think there will be quite a few contrasting reviews, but people who have heard it are not (so far) slating it
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2011 10:14:03 GMT -5
Lead review of the month by Keith Cameron with short interview with Liam and Gem. 3 stars out of 5. Says Bring The Light is the best thing on the album although The Beat Goes On is good too. Pretty good review i.e. reviewer is honest about Liam, Gem and Andy's songwriting ability compared to Noel. I ain't got a scanner though, sorry. 3 or 4 stars you said in the other thread it was 4?
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Post by Casino Boogie on Jan 22, 2011 10:15:45 GMT -5
'Bring The Light has exactly the unselfconscious brio and contempt for the cool school rule-book that defined Oasis in their pomp.'
'But already, amid the righteous ramalama of Bring The Light, their genius move, the world's a brighter place for having a Beady Eye.'
Basically he's highlighting that the rest of the album is what you would expect i.e. very influenced by the Beatles and the Stones, most of it would fit on an Oasis album. Praises Liam's ability to make anything he sings sound good. This guy only gave DOYS 3 out of 5 because it didn't feature enough Noel songs (i.e. he slated the second half of the album) so it's a pretty positive review overall.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Jan 22, 2011 10:16:25 GMT -5
Lead review of the month by Keith Cameron with short interview with Liam and Gem. 3 stars out of 5. Says Bring The Light is the best thing on the album although The Beat Goes On is good too. Pretty good review i.e. reviewer is honest about Liam, Gem and Andy's songwriting ability compared to Noel. I ain't got a scanner though, sorry. 3 or 4 stars you said in the other thread it was 4? Q gave it four stars.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 22, 2011 10:18:53 GMT -5
Ahh 3 out of 5 from mojo right? Sorry misread that mate.
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Post by Casino Boogie on Jan 22, 2011 11:22:12 GMT -5
Ahh 3 out of 5 from mojo right? Sorry misread that mate. Yeah, no worries.
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Post by spaneli on Jan 22, 2011 11:55:54 GMT -5
You never know with reviews. The most interesting ones will be Billboard, SPIN, Rolling Stone, and Pitchfork imo. SPIN and Billboard gave DOYS, really really good reviews and both seem to have liked Oasis. And of course there's Rolling Stone and Pitchfork who killed Oasis the most.
Compare and contrast the 4 sets of reviews, and it will probably be somewhere in the middle.
Me personally I think the album will be a 3 out of 5 in the end. Not much better than an Oasis album with Noel, but not much worse. Which for BDI would be a great win.
Will be interested in how they're judging BDI. Like with Oasis almost every review compared them to their recent stuff. It would have a sentence like "well, compared to their their most recent work, this is def. an improvement." I wonder if they'll get judged on that scale. Like "well compared to what it could've been without Noel, this is pretty good."
It really doesnt matter in the end, as long as the songs are great. Its just something that interests me.
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Post by definitivt on Jan 22, 2011 16:45:34 GMT -5
You never know with reviews. The most interesting ones will be Billboard, SPIN, Rolling Stone, and Pitchfork imo. SPIN and Billboard gave DOYS, really really good reviews and both seem to have liked Oasis. And of course there's Rolling Stone and Pitchfork who killed Oasis the most. Compare and contrast the 4 sets of reviews, and it will probably be somewhere in the middle. Me personally I think the album will be a 3 out of 5 in the end. Not much better than an Oasis album with Noel, but not much worse. Which for BDI would be a great win. Will be interested in how they're judging BDI. Like with Oasis almost every review compared them to their recent stuff. It would have a sentence like "well, compared to their their most recent work, this is def. an improvement." I wonder if they'll get judged on that scale. Like "well compared to what it could've been without Noel, this is pretty good." It really doesnt matter in the end, as long as the songs are great. Its just something that interests me. Pitchfork hated Oasis. Really hated. Never seen a good review from them on any Oasis album, and they never missed a chance to slag them off (for example when they reviewed bands like The Soundtrack of Our Lives and Kasabian). If they get >5/10 it will be a massive surprise, imo.
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Post by sultrysummer on Jan 23, 2011 2:56:21 GMT -5
Mojo's 3 stars was a positive surprise, TBH I was expecting **.
Just for fun:-) I checked the number of stars in the new album review section of a recent Mojo edition and the statistical distribution went like this
*: 1 **: 4 ***: 21 ****: 23
As for the Q review, I wouldn't put much emphasis on it. The magazine is financially in REALLY dire straits (Mojo's situation is not good either, but since it basically is an "oldies" magazine with an "old" readership base it is more stable, whereas Q must try to attract also new & young readers) and the writers&editors at Q most probably are in a situation where they must be positive about any "new music" in order to save their jobs.
BTW, Mojo and Q are published by the same company (Bauer).
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Post by Wolf on Jan 23, 2011 10:45:08 GMT -5
You never know with reviews. The most interesting ones will be Billboard, SPIN, Rolling Stone, and Pitchfork imo. SPIN and Billboard gave DOYS, really really good reviews and both seem to have liked Oasis. And of course there's Rolling Stone and Pitchfork who killed Oasis the most. Compare and contrast the 4 sets of reviews, and it will probably be somewhere in the middle. Me personally I think the album will be a 3 out of 5 in the end. Not much better than an Oasis album with Noel, but not much worse. Which for BDI would be a great win. Will be interested in how they're judging BDI. Like with Oasis almost every review compared them to their recent stuff. It would have a sentence like "well, compared to their their most recent work, this is def. an improvement." I wonder if they'll get judged on that scale. Like "well compared to what it could've been without Noel, this is pretty good." It really doesnt matter in the end, as long as the songs are great. Its just something that interests me. Pitchfork hated Oasis. Really hated. Never seen a good review from them on any Oasis album, and they never missed a chance to slag them off (for example when they reviewed bands like The Soundtrack of Our Lives and Kasabian). If they get >5/10 it will be a massive surprise, imo. I don't think Pitchfork will even bother reviewing it. Their site has not had one article on Beady Eye since their formation. Good thing their not reviewing it anyway, they are shit. They need to stick to their Vampire Weekend and all the other pompous Indie bands that they find talented and exciting.
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Post by putthisin ® on Jan 23, 2011 13:37:17 GMT -5
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Post by Headmaster on Jan 23, 2011 13:51:09 GMT -5
3.7 for The Masterplan.
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Post by definitivt on Jan 23, 2011 14:00:25 GMT -5
3.7 for The Masterplan. Yes, it's ridiculous. I know that everyone here thinks that HC are shite, but 1.2/10 is just to provoke. I think it's a 6-7/10 but I would understand people who would rate it 3-4/10. But 1.2...
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Post by caats19 on Jan 23, 2011 14:13:42 GMT -5
3.7 for The Masterplan. Yes, it's ridiculous. I know that everyone here thinks that HC are shite, but 1.2/10 is just to provoke. I think it's a 6-7/10 but I would understand people who would rate it 3-4/10. But 1.2... i joke that the .2 is generous. awful album. AWFUL ALBUM. songbird is the only good song. i don't think i've ever heard "probably all in the mind" all the way through. i just can't get through it.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Jan 23, 2011 14:56:47 GMT -5
Still, 1.2 is an insult. And 3.7 for TM is ridiculous too, guess all of their readers are Blur fans.
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Post by manualex on Jan 23, 2011 17:40:57 GMT -5
They have a Be Here Now review on their old site it is 8.1 or something like that...
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Post by BEng on Jan 23, 2011 18:30:52 GMT -5
Oasis Be Here Now [Epic] Rating: 7.9 Other day, I was dragging my sand-filled shoes through the desert wasteland known as commercial alternative rock, the sun beating on me like a sadist with a whip, my brow the only moist thing in sight. I spotted in the distance some really pompous British guys with guitars who wouldn't give me the time of day, let alone water from their canteens. Some fucking oasis.
These were the rudest folks I'd met in my entire life, and somehow when they turned up the amplifiers, I couldn't resist their instantly memorable rock music. Realizing I'd heard this stuff somewhere before (whether it be from their last two albums or old Beatles records), I started to feel guilty. Then I decided. Fuck it.
Oasis' third record, Be Here Now is, predictably, a lot like Definitely Maybe and even more like What's The Story, Morning Glory, but with a lot more pomp. What were formally unforgettable three- to- four minute pop slices are now six- to- ten minute long epics. It's like "Champagne Supernova" altered the course of their journey toward Edgar Winters' part of the universe.
Regardless of whether or not it's "cool" to like them (they're certainly not as safe- to- like as some of my other pleasures, Yo La Tengo or Nick Drake), "D'You Know What I Mean," Be Here Now's first single, is the catchiest song of the year. So take your holier- than- thou, elitist musical tastes and sod off -- Oasis are cool in my book.
-Ryan "Defensive Man" Schreiber
Now that's more like it!! He explains my feelings of BHN perfectly: A lot like DM and WTSMG, but everything is longer, louder and more epic. Most people say: the tunes are there, but the production is to loud and messy and it's too long. I say: the tunes are there, and the production and the length take it to another level! I love Be Here Now. I listened the whole album once through my surround system with "loudness" on. Suddenly I heard the base on DYKWIM. (Didn't even know it was there ) It is one of the few albums (and the last Oasis album) that can really literally blow your head of... Thing is though, you need to be in the right mood. Sometimes the things I mentioned in the above can indeed bother me. But even then, the tunes are still there...
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