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Post by rmillis on Jan 7, 2011 23:24:14 GMT -5
The way some you guys(i mean haters) layout your 2 cents, seems like you don't realize that you can pretty much take any song on the radio right now and compare the similarities to another song or two or three!!!---example: you ever notice ...muse's uprising is stolen or borrowed(however you wanna put it) from the *original dr who theme song* and blondie's 'call me'. there's nothing harmful with LG sounding like JL but he does'nt always sound like Jl...just depends on the song!!? i'm not really interested in originality-with bands...it's more of the whole good musicianship for me...and really no one can sound original any longer, everythings been made!!...the sudburbs(from arcade fire will tell you) That wasn't my point. My point was that The Roller is a ripoff of Instant Karma and All You Need is Love. I think we can all agree that both of those songs are better than The Roller. If you are gonna ripoff a song you better make a better version. Also there is a reason there are music critics. Critics point out flaws in music and point out when someone is "borrowing" music. |
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Post by daysoasis on Jan 7, 2011 23:52:18 GMT -5
re: rmillis
So it's a cheap rip off of ik and aynil is how you feel ,it's all good.but the contrast is what i say!!...having examine every elements of the track!!....lyrics, the message,melody and just the over all production...i just can't feel it's a 'two in the bush version"!...it feels good...but it's never gonna wear a 10/10 medal..more like a 7.5/10!!but both ik and aynil are not 10/10 songs either..in my opinion!
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Post by rmillis on Jan 8, 2011 0:17:50 GMT -5
re: rmillis So it's a cheap rip off of ik and aynil is how you feel ,it's all good.but the contrast is what i say!!...having examine every elements of the track!!....lyrics, the message,melody and just the over all production...i just can't feel it's a 'two in the bush version"!...it feels good...but it's never gonna wear a 10/10 medal..more like a 7.5/10!!but both ik and aynil are not 10/10 songs either..in my opinion! I agree with you on the review. It is def a 7.5. But ik and aynil is def a 9/10 or higher. We won't even be talking about the roller 40 years from now lol. |
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Post by bwilder on Jan 8, 2011 0:27:22 GMT -5
Not to be a downer but this isn't even close to Oasis. Which basically means, not even close to Noel's songwriting ability. Having said that, Noel's songs would've never affected so many people if it wasn't for Liam's voice and attitude.
Liam + Noel = Huge Success (As Opposed To Mediocre Success Apart From One Another).
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Jan 8, 2011 2:06:41 GMT -5
Every BDI songs lack the depth that Oasis songs had but that's apparently their musical style. The whole album seems to have been produced that way to create a rawer sound that they were trying to make from the start.
Honestly, TR is not Oasis but it's still a nice song with great production.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Jan 8, 2011 2:19:19 GMT -5
As much as the vibe is taken from Instant Karma, the chorus melody really does not resemble it, which allows it to (somewhat) stand on its own as a song. It's certainly in a moral gray area. As a songwriter I wouldn't release something that's so close to TWO of my hero's songs. But I enjoy it for what it is, so whatever.
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Post by ToneBender on Jan 11, 2011 7:58:44 GMT -5
Noel nicked parts from more songs than he didn't. The real trick is taking the bits you stole and making it your own. I'd say that was accomplished here given the chorus, arrangement and general feel of the song. I'm sure Noel ripping getting GOYHHL and putting in DOYS was Liam's fault for supposedly not recording vocals on two tracks, right? :-)
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Post by Peter Irish on Jan 11, 2011 10:33:19 GMT -5
IT's a right laugh reading all you BDI knockers saying they've ripped this off they've ripped that off when supposedly the only reason your on here originally was because of Oasis. Noel Gallagher is the biggest plagiarist of all time and we love Oasis. So too all the knockers, Get a reality check. Your favouite band has been doing it from day 1 and if you know where to look you'll find examples everywhere. Just take a listen and shake along with me.......... Peace my fellow Forumers  |
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Post by rmillis on Jan 11, 2011 10:52:02 GMT -5
IT's a right laugh reading all you BDI knockers saying they've ripped this off they've ripped that off when supposedly the only reason your on here originally was because of Oasis. Noel Gallagher is the biggest plagiarist of all time and we love Oasis. So too all the knockers, Get a reality check. Your favouite band has been doing it from day 1 and if you know where to look you'll find examples everywhere. Just take a listen and shake along with me.......... Peace my fellow Forumers Two wrongs don't make a right. The Roller which is a lead single should be original in some aspect, not a blatant ripoff. Noel would never have released a lead single with such obvious borrowing. |
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Post by Peter Irish on Jan 11, 2011 11:05:03 GMT -5
^ Have you heard my sweet lord...oh sorry supersonic!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2011 11:19:01 GMT -5
These "opinions" in no way reflect the opinion of this forum or those who frequent it. That said, here is my OPINION on the topic:
1.The Beatles DO have many songs that are severely overrated (and I own the box set, and listen to them all, almost everyday)
2.Any post-Beatles era songs released by any member of the band got overblow publicity due to the success of the band previously. (Let's be honest, Mull of Kintyre should not be a number one song)
3.The idea that "ripping off" other songs in some way makes them more or less worthy of our admiration, is simply RIDICULOUS! All bands steal parts of tunes that they deem to be good, and that doesn't make them any less original then anyone else.
4.As for The Roller, it is catchy. It does flow nicely. It does make for a friendly radio tune. Is it the best song ever? No. Is it worth an Oasis fans honest listen? Definitely.
I hope that we can all remember that OPINIONS are not fact, and they in no way reflect the belief or reasoning of the other people with whom we associate on this forum or anyhwhere else.
Cheers and may we all live forever!
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Post by alexburatti on Jan 11, 2011 11:19:05 GMT -5
The Hindu Times was a lead single and ripped off the Phonics, I think the Roller is a good tune, lets just enjoy the music
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Post by shades on Jan 11, 2011 11:30:30 GMT -5
If you don't like Beady Eye ripping off the Beatles just fuck off & let the people who enjoy their music enjoy the fucking music
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Post by idledreamer on Jan 11, 2011 11:42:22 GMT -5
^ Have you heard my sweet lord...oh sorry supersonic!!!! you mean 'he's so fine?'  |
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Post by Peter Irish on Jan 11, 2011 13:22:35 GMT -5
^ Exactly that my friend. And the Beat goes on and on and on......  it all comes from somewhere else. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 11, 2011 13:40:30 GMT -5
^ Have you heard my sweet lord...oh sorry supersonic!!!! With Supersoinc its basically the riff/solo which no one really notices. Supersonic no where near as blatan as the Roller. In Supersonic I can only just barely hear the rip. Thats prob not that case with IK, oops I meant the Roller. |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 11, 2011 14:08:30 GMT -5
In the end for me, it doesnt matter if its ripped or not. If The Roller were the most original song in the world, it would still only be a slightly above average track to me.
I'm not attacking anyone who loves it. If you love it, then love it. But to me, its only a slightly above average track, with or without a rip.
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Post by Rifles on Jan 11, 2011 15:04:56 GMT -5
"Harmless" is the word I'd use to describe The Roller. First Beady Eye song I've played more than twice and am yet to make fun of. Bring on the album...let's see what else they've got.
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Post by cliffriff on Jan 11, 2011 15:44:17 GMT -5
6/10 a cross between instant karma and crazy low down ways by ocean colour scene. for all the beatles pillaging noel did through the years he never steeped this low. oh dear, nicking Mahoney's observations to wind up the fanboi's. An new low rolli. hahaha haha were you calling him rolli as a joke? or is one of these people actually rolli? |
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Post by putthisin ® on Jan 11, 2011 16:55:50 GMT -5
^ Have you heard my sweet lord...oh sorry supersonic!!!! With Supersoinc its basically the riff/solo which no one really notices. Supersonic no where near as blatan as the Roller. In Supersonic I can only just barely hear the rip. Thats prob not that case with IK, oops I meant the Roller. You know Noel ripped off Jugband Blues, right? It's basically Supersonic chorus..... |
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Post by webm@ster on Jan 11, 2011 17:15:26 GMT -5
you guys want rip off ?? here you go ;D
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Post by rmillis on Jan 11, 2011 17:31:43 GMT -5
Do you guys even know what Supersonic sounds like? Cuz it def doesn't sound like any of the songs you posted. I understand you are trying to prove a point but I don't agree. Ripoff or not the song is Mediocre. This song will be forgotten and will get very little radio airplay. Critics will argue that Liam Gallagher rips off Lennon again. Problem is, it's getting a little pathetic at this point. I don't understand how anyone who has heard IK can even enjoy this song.
That's my opinion. The song is decent and that is all.
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Post by webm@ster on Jan 11, 2011 17:51:51 GMT -5
Ripoff or not the song is Mediocre. This song will be forgotten and will get very little radio airplay. Critics will argue that Liam Gallagher rips off Lennon again. Problem is, it's getting a little pathetic at this point. I don't understand how anyone who has heard IK can even enjoy this song. That's my opinion. The song is decent and that is all. Actually it might surprise you that some of my colleagues in the industry including musicians who were very luke warm towards Oasis quite like this song . One of them said I hate to admit it but I actually like Liam's new songs better than recent Oasis songs..... I have a gut feeling the album will be warmly received by the usual US press which is 'standoffish' towards Brit pop/rock guitar bands in general |
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Post by spaneli on Jan 11, 2011 17:58:58 GMT -5
With Supersoinc its basically the riff/solo which no one really notices. Supersonic no where near as blatan as the Roller. In Supersonic I can only just barely hear the rip. Thats prob not that case with IK, oops I meant the Roller. You know Noel ripped off Jugband Blues, right? It's basically Supersonic chorus..... WHAT!?!?!?!?! Are you fuckin kidding me. If you're gonna accuse Noel of ripping something at least present something thats actually ripped off. ahahahahahaha Thats no where near Supersonic in anyway. They arent even closed to being played the same way. Its not even close to the same chords. Oh, wow. You need your ears checked out. ahahahaha I've played both on guitar and can assure that the two songs arent even remotely similiar. |
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Post by daysoasis on Jan 11, 2011 18:43:30 GMT -5
Why don't we just celebrate!!...'cause were getting more music than we would of figured!!!
We can keep making comparisons for every song out there to every song out there and everyone will speak as if they have a valid point but at the end of the day...we don't really accomplish shit all!!!.Everyone in this planet has influences and it will show!
By the way Supersonic's a super mega tune!!!!...have'nt heard a tune that moved me the same way it did!!!!
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