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Post by metaltiger on Nov 24, 2010 15:07:04 GMT -5
I dont know, i mean, you might call me crazy but the production quality of both bring the light and sots sounds very suspect to me.
Seems too fuzzy and unclear, i mean I cant find the right word for it, but those who know what I'm trying to say will get it.
Or have they tried to purposely create that kind of sound :S ?
I dunno, 'tis just weird.
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Post by oasisfanboy on Nov 24, 2010 15:14:17 GMT -5
I do. It's like we're listening to cassette copies of an original! Fuzzy.
Not that's that a problem necessarily - just strange.
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Post by oneeye on Nov 24, 2010 15:28:24 GMT -5
do they sound good? YES!
End of!!!!
They sound fine to me - especially SOTS where the effect they've put on kinda adds to it.
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Post by metaltiger on Nov 24, 2010 15:34:22 GMT -5
oneeye, they dont sound as good as they should, thats the friggin point.
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Post by LlAM on Nov 24, 2010 15:41:09 GMT -5
BTL has that tape ish 60s vibe. especially the bass. is that what you mean by "fuzzy"?
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Post by danscouse on Nov 24, 2010 15:46:12 GMT -5
Personally can't hear a bass on btl and it's too long. Both jobs for the producer
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Post by RocketMan on Nov 24, 2010 16:07:20 GMT -5
anybody else think that there are many useless threads from confused persons?
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 24, 2010 16:18:39 GMT -5
you're totally right. BTL is underproduced. it is just too long and it sounds "weird" for lack of a better word.
Meanwhile SOTS sounds fuzzy, like it was actually recorded in 1987... not good.
at least i can say i the latter is an ok song(too bad it's only a cover) because BTL is terrible imo
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Post by putthisin ® on Nov 24, 2010 16:49:08 GMT -5
I don't mind BTL production but SOTS is very badly produced. The effects are to corny, especially towards the end of the song. Very amateurish.
If you listen to the original, they kinda copied some of the effects which annoys me cos I know it would sound better without them. Plus, the echos on Liam's vocals don't do it for me. They should have recorded backup vocals from other member instead. Nice cover, overall, though
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 24, 2010 17:00:57 GMT -5
Think it's more to do with the quality of the rips than the actual production, to be honest.
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Post by oneeye on Nov 25, 2010 7:37:53 GMT -5
who knows, whatever people are hearing - MAY have been done on purpose
Lillywhite is a very experienced producer, and on top of that Liam and Co know what they're doing!
If it didn't sound right to Liam, Gem and Andy they would have changed it - tey're too experienced not to.
Gem has said in the interview with Q that Lillywhite helped then get through the album quickly? Which obviously could be a reason why (if anything) could be lacking.
But I believe the band are in a better position to judge.
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Post by psj3809 on Nov 25, 2010 9:21:55 GMT -5
Lillywhite knows what hes doing, far more than any of us.
Obvious they seem to be going for an 'older' sound but i've got faith
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Post by LlAM on Nov 25, 2010 10:30:20 GMT -5
who knows, whatever people are hearing - MAY have been done on purpose Lillywhite is a very experienced producer, and on top of that Liam and Co know what they're doing! If it didn't sound right to Liam, Gem and Andy they would have changed it - tey're too experienced not to. Gem has said in the interview with Q that Lillywhite helped then get through the album quickly? Which obviously could be a reason why (if anything) could be lacking. But I believe the band are in a better position to judge. Art is subjective. Lillywhite could be the most experienced producer on the plant- but its still subjective. And of course they've done what they've done on purpose, don't be stupid. |
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Post by Swarfiga on Nov 25, 2010 12:19:21 GMT -5
I played Bring The Light through my band's PA system and I can say that the song has very little bass on it. Too little, I should say. Begun to wonder if it were something wrong with our system. But no. I'm not saying the production is bad. But I should have put some more bass on it.
And btw, I like the production on Sons Of The Stage more. Wich worries me a bit, cause the band them self produced that song and Lillywhite Bring The Light. And that's the man who produced the whole album... Anyhow, I believe Lillywhite know what he's doing.
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Post by caats19 on Nov 25, 2010 23:35:37 GMT -5
I think BTL sounds great. Loud and brash. Good stuff.
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Post by bdiplayer on Nov 26, 2010 1:10:23 GMT -5
BTL sounded great on the radio; the youtube clip I saw and heard did it no justice whatsoever, soundwise.
Sons of the Stage sounded relatively poorly-produced and amateurish, [by today's recording standards] like a second-generation cassette recording with magnetic 'dropouts' after being stored in a drawer for 23 years. Lilywhite obviously knows what he's doing production-wise, and I can only assume all concerned have gone for a deliberate 'retro' vibe: if this is the case, they have succeeded admirably.
A glossy, overproduced turd of a recording would have been much worse, wasteful, and downright unhip in my view. The balance is about right regarding this recording.
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Post by caats19 on Nov 26, 2010 2:04:22 GMT -5
I wonder how well SOS is when it was ripped from vinyl. I know vinyl is better than CD's, but the one on youtube sounds awful. I'd imagine the ripping process has something to do with it
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Post by Jimmy D on Nov 26, 2010 8:29:38 GMT -5
On the official download of Bring The Light, it comes out top heavy on my speakers. But I dont think that is a mix issue. I think more my speakers being mainly bass heavy though... if I sit on my sofa and listen it sounds fine, and it sounds mega in the car n all. As for Sons of the Stage I cant comment. on the Vinyl it sounds fine. Have a look at your speakers fella. because it could well be them.
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Post by Shakermaker on Nov 26, 2010 10:55:09 GMT -5
I thing you are right about the production. It actually has been like this on DBTT as well, for sure on the b-sides.
I like the production of other albums more .. like BHN, SOTSOG, DOYS
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Post by alwaysnow on Nov 26, 2010 11:22:21 GMT -5
Everybody remember that SOTS was produced by the band, not by Lillywhite, so it explains why the production sounds different on both songs.
I like the production on BTL, Liam's voice sounds pretty good there, kinda rough but clear at the same time, if that makes any sense (I know nothing about song production except what I like and what I don't).
While on SOTS, I think some of the effects are corny, to some extent, and I don't like the reverb on Liam's voice. It's just too much, like it's saturated and you can't make out all the sounds clearly.
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Post by oasisshare on Nov 26, 2010 15:33:47 GMT -5
Let's not forget Sons of the Stage has only been released via vinyl thus far, which most likely is the reason for the "fuzzy" poor production sound you guys are talking about for that song. Notice those clips and bops in the intro and throughout. That very likely is just the sound of the vinyl spinning which is always audible on vinyl rips, not due to the fact they produced the song purposely to sound as if it came from a dusty box left to sit for thirty years.
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Post by ToneBender on Nov 28, 2010 10:24:14 GMT -5
I'm listening to them on a pair of Mackie HR824s and they sound more than fine to me. That being said they really compressed the crap out of the midrange of Bring The Light...
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