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Post by ale2 on Nov 11, 2010 17:29:14 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 17:31:34 GMT -5
Zero? Nil? Nothing? Zip? Love?
I dunno, what criteria are we using here? Be specific.
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Post by ale2 on Nov 11, 2010 17:32:58 GMT -5
1. Some Might Say
2. D' You Know What I Mean
3. Supersonic
4. The Shock Of The Lightning
5. The Hindu Times
6. Go Let It Out
7. Lyla
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100. Not in the same league - Bring The Light
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 17:37:39 GMT -5
Below all of them
But I am hoping that theis was just a teaser to last us to the New Year when the first honest-to-god single comes out.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Nov 11, 2010 17:38:01 GMT -5
It's nowhere near as good as any of them
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Post by bonkers on Nov 11, 2010 17:39:13 GMT -5
i don't see the point in comparing Oasis and Beady Eye, different bands in my opinion, i dont care if Beady Eye has former members, i don't compare Them crooked vultures with foo fighters or foo fighters with nirvana
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Post by StepOut on Nov 11, 2010 17:42:04 GMT -5
All those songs were written by Noel. That says something.
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Post by Rita on Nov 11, 2010 17:50:20 GMT -5
fucking hell, how can it be so hard to understand that Oasis is something, and Beady Eye is something ELSE, completely separate? You didn't seriously hope to hear Supersonic II as the first Beady Eye single, did you? I'm really glad it's different, because that way, it stays in its place. I seriously can't see the point in rating and comparing both bands, it's just ridiculous. Listen to whatever you enjoy, and that's it. Do you also expect supersonic as debut single from Noel? Forget it. It's all been done before, why should it be done again?
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Post by bonkers on Nov 11, 2010 17:53:19 GMT -5
fucking hell, how can it be so hard to understand that Oasis is something, and Beady Eye is something ELSE, completely separate? You didn't seriously hope to hear Supersonic II as the first Beady Eye single, did you? I'm really glad it's different, because that way, it stays in its place. I seriously can't see the point in rating and comparing both bands, it's just ridiculous. Listen to whatever you enjoy, and that's it. Do you also expect supersonic as debut single from Noel? Forget it. It's all been done before, why should it be done again? K+  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 17:54:33 GMT -5
Yeah, Beady Eye is so different from Oasis that Liam considered just keeping the Oasis name if they couldn't come up with anything else. You're right, it's totally different.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 18:00:48 GMT -5
fucking hell, how can it be so hard to understand that Oasis is something, and Beady Eye is something ELSE, completely separate? You didn't seriously hope to hear Supersonic II as the first Beady Eye single, did you? I'm really glad it's different, because that way, it stays in its place. I seriously can't see the point in rating and comparing both bands, it's just ridiculous. Listen to whatever you enjoy, and that's it. Do you also expect supersonic as debut single from Noel? Forget it. It's all been done before, why should it be done again? Why must everyone get so up in arms? As soon as someone asks a question that someone doesn't like people are jumping out of the woodwork and yelling about stuff like this. People will discuss this stuff. It may frustrate you. But noone says that you have to read this thread. It was obviously going to be comparing Oasis to BDI...so why did you bother opening it just to yell @ people? Just ignore it...it isn't hurting anyone. Hopefully when the album finally drops we can start talking more about BDI and less about Oasis in this section. |
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Post by Rita on Nov 11, 2010 18:08:36 GMT -5
Well as far as I'm concerned, a forum is made to discuss things, and I have as much right to state my point as they have to "discuss their stuff", as you said. And I don't know about you, but I'm not yelling at anyone.
And epiphone100, I think it's pretty obvious that Liam, Gem and Andy are not doing Oasis here, and if you can't see it, then it's a shame really.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 11, 2010 18:15:11 GMT -5
fucking hell, how can it be so hard to understand that Oasis is something, and Beady Eye is something ELSE, completely separate? You didn't seriously hope to hear Supersonic II as the first Beady Eye single, did you? I'm really glad it's different, because that way, it stays in its place. I seriously can't see the point in rating and comparing both bands, it's just ridiculous. Listen to whatever you enjoy, and that's it. Do you also expect supersonic as debut single from Noel? Forget it. It's all been done before, why should it be done again? The girl does talk some sense. I agree with Rita.  |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 18:19:09 GMT -5
Well as far as I'm concerned, a forum is made to discuss things, and I have as much right to state my point as they have to "discuss their stuff", as you said. And I don't know about you, but I'm not yelling at anyone. And epiphone100, I think it's pretty obvious that Liam, Gem and Andy are not doing Oasis here, and if you can't see it, then it's a shame really. With all due respect. If you think that the forum is about discussion...Why are you trying to shut down this one? And you can say you aren't yelling...but you are swearing...so that does signify more than a moderate amount of aggression. You are right that you have stated your opinion...but your opinion sounds as if you are saying "shut up about conversations like this." You don't have to contribute but why be upset @ those that do want to discuss it and try and make them feel bad? I'm not saying that your point about the futility of comparing BDI and Oasis isn't valid. In fact I agree with it really. But why should you be so upset that people would dare to compare the 2 bands...Liam already has himself... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 18:20:27 GMT -5
Pillow fight!
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Post by Rita on Nov 11, 2010 18:30:21 GMT -5
Well as far as I'm concerned, a forum is made to discuss things, and I have as much right to state my point as they have to "discuss their stuff", as you said. And I don't know about you, but I'm not yelling at anyone. And epiphone100, I think it's pretty obvious that Liam, Gem and Andy are not doing Oasis here, and if you can't see it, then it's a shame really. With all due respect. If you think that the forum is about discussion...Why are you trying to shut down this one? And you can say you aren't yelling...but you are swearing...so that does signify more than a moderate amount of aggression. You are right that you have stated your opinion...but your opinion sounds as if you are saying "shut up about conversations like this." You don't have to contribute but why be upset @ those that do want to discuss it and try and make them feel bad? I'm not saying that your point about the futility of comparing BDI and Oasis isn't valid. In fact I agree with it really. But why should you be so upset that people would dare to compare the 2 bands...Liam already has himself... First of all, I'm not trying to shut down anything, I was adding to it. Look, if you expect people from this forum not to question each other's ideas and everyone in this board to shut up if they don't agree with something, you're clearly in the wrong place, and I think you've been here long enough to notice that. Actually, if it was like that, why should you be so upset that I'm "upset about people would dare to compare the 2 bands", then? |
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Post by dearprudence on Nov 11, 2010 18:48:12 GMT -5
Beady Eye is something else.... ha... come on ...is the same band except Noel,,, who happens to be the most talented one... I understand if you guys wanna defend the fact that now that Oasis is dead this new band is independent from it,,, but is inevitable to judge the quailty of the music vs Oasis if has 3 of 4 Oasis members,,, and the drummer is also the same. Music is music and I in favour of doing something different, that is not the problem,,, that is great....the problem is that the song sucks.
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Post by Wolf on Nov 11, 2010 18:53:28 GMT -5
Let's alll callmmm down, but yeah bit pointless I found this thread to be
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Post by supersonic8587 on Nov 11, 2010 18:53:35 GMT -5
fucking hell, how can it be so hard to understand that Oasis is something, and Beady Eye is something ELSE, completely separate? You didn't seriously hope to hear Supersonic II as the first Beady Eye single, did you? I'm really glad it's different, because that way, it stays in its place. I seriously can't see the point in rating and comparing both bands, it's just ridiculous. Listen to whatever you enjoy, and that's it. Do you also expect supersonic as debut single from Noel? Forget it. It's all been done before, why should it be done again? Better get used to it. Unfortunately I think we're going to be hearing about this for as long as Beady Eye exist. I wish we could just take Beady Eye for what they are and rate their songs for they're worth in their own right and not look at them through the Oasis magnifying glass. I said it in another thread and I'll say it again here. Beady Eye are going to suffer through the same curse Oasis did in their later years. They will be subject of comparisons to early Oasis material, which really isn't fair. It wasn't fair for Oasis to be criticized for not making albums as good as DM and WTSMG considering how good they really were, and it isn't fair to Beady Eye either. I've even seen a critic's review of BTL comparing it to early Oasis and counting the song as disappointing because it's not as good. This is simply not a productive way of evaluating music as there would be very little considered successful if all if it were compared to DM and WTSMG today. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 18:58:04 GMT -5
Why was it unfair to criticise Oasis for not making albums as good as their first ones?
"It wasn't as good as their last one!" - that sounds like a valid comment about any band.
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Post by supersonic8587 on Nov 11, 2010 19:07:29 GMT -5
Why was it unfair to criticise Oasis for not making albums as good as their first ones? "It wasn't as good as their last one!" - that sounds like a valid comment about any band. I don't mean that it's unfair to criticize an album because it's not as good as the last, but it is unfair to dismiss an album for that reason. A lot of times all people hear when something like that is said is "not as good as the last one," and right off the bat think that they may as well just stick with listening to the old one and not waste time on the new stuff. Especially for Oasis since their first album was so good, just because it isn't as good as that doesn't mean it's not good music. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 11, 2010 19:14:16 GMT -5
Why was it unfair to criticise Oasis for not making albums as good as their first ones? "It wasn't as good as their last one!" - that sounds like a valid comment about any band. Oasis were a victim of their own success. Albums get treated more harshly because they aren't as good. Why try to compare? Each album should stand on it's own merit, at least to some extent.... |
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Post by Rita on Nov 11, 2010 19:15:48 GMT -5
Why was it unfair to criticise Oasis for not making albums as good as their first ones? "It wasn't as good as their last one!" - that sounds like a valid comment about any band. I don't mean that it's unfair to criticize an album because it's not as good as the last, but it is unfair to dismiss an album for that reason. A lot of times all people hear when something like that is said is "not as good as the last one," and right off the bat think that they may as well just stick with listening to the old one and not waste time on the new stuff. Especially for Oasis since their first album was so good, just because it isn't as good as that doesn't mean it's not good music. and sometimes it's not even a matter of being better or worse, it's just that it's different. I mean, Noel has said it many times, but how could he write a song like Cigarettes and Alcohol when he's 40? How ridiculous and how fake would that be? I don't think we can compare an album like Dig Out Your Soul to Definitely Maybe, because it's just two different things. Although one might mean much more to you then the other, there's no chance anyone would release a Definitely Maybe at the age of 40. And with Beady Eye it's even more different, because it's two separate bands. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 20:08:40 GMT -5
With all due respect. If you think that the forum is about discussion...Why are you trying to shut down this one? And you can say you aren't yelling...but you are swearing...so that does signify more than a moderate amount of aggression. You are right that you have stated your opinion...but your opinion sounds as if you are saying "shut up about conversations like this." You don't have to contribute but why be upset @ those that do want to discuss it and try and make them feel bad? I'm not saying that your point about the futility of comparing BDI and Oasis isn't valid. In fact I agree with it really. But why should you be so upset that people would dare to compare the 2 bands...Liam already has himself... First of all, I'm not trying to shut down anything, I was adding to it. Look, if you expect people from this forum not to question each other's ideas and everyone in this board to shut up if they don't agree with something, you're clearly in the wrong place, and I think you've been here long enough to notice that. Actually, if it was like that, why should you be so upset that I'm "upset about people would dare to compare the 2 bands", then? What are you on about? I didn't tell you to shut up about anything. You are perfectly entitled to your opinion...but that doesn't mean that you have to chide everyone that doesn't agree with you or wants to discuss a topic that you don't agree with. Frankly I do think that coming out swearing and railing against the concept behind a thread is not a way to encourage discussion...unless it's a discussion about whether it is appropriate to swear @ people that don't see the world how you do. You are the one that came out first saying that people shouldn't be comparing Oasis to BDI. The blanket statement that the reason people don't like it is because they were expecting Supersonic II is a bit reductive and juvenile, don't you think? All that I said is that people can if they want to. I agree it is futile...but so what...if they want to...so what. You said that they shouldn't talk about something. I said they can talk about what ever they want. And then you said I was censoring you. I suggested you might want to ignore if it really annoys you. But fine...if you want to bash your head against a wall...go for it. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 20:15:41 GMT -5
fucking hell, how can it be so hard to understand that Oasis is something, and Beady Eye is something ELSE, completely separate? You didn't seriously hope to hear Supersonic II as the first Beady Eye single, did you? I'm really glad it's different, because that way, it stays in its place. I seriously can't see the point in rating and comparing both bands, it's just ridiculous. Listen to whatever you enjoy, and that's it. Do you also expect supersonic as debut single from Noel? Forget it. It's all been done before, why should it be done again? Better get used to it. Unfortunately I think we're going to be hearing about this for as long as Beady Eye exist. I wish we could just take Beady Eye for what they are and rate their songs for they're worth in their own right and not look at them through the Oasis magnifying glass. I said it in another thread and I'll say it again here. Beady Eye are going to suffer through the same curse Oasis did in their later years. They will be subject of comparisons to early Oasis material, which really isn't fair. It wasn't fair for Oasis to be criticized for not making albums as good as DM and WTSMG considering how good they really were, and it isn't fair to Beady Eye either. I've even seen a critic's review of BTL comparing it to early Oasis and counting the song as disappointing because it's not as good. This is simply not a productive way of evaluating music as there would be very little considered successful if all if it were compared to DM and WTSMG today. To be fair this thread doesn't have anything to do with that really. It asks the question...is it better than ANY of the Oasis debut singles. That includes the occasionally disappointing later albums. You are right that this is something that BDI will most likely struggle with the comparisons when the album drops. But do we have to start that debate now? We don't even have an album to compare with DM and WTSMG? |
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