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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2010 17:25:52 GMT -5
... has he gone running back yet, tail between his legs?
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 17:41:49 GMT -5
Not for this tune, I think
I wonder if this album will be full of things that Noel wouldn't let them do over the past 10 years?
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Post by spaneli on Nov 11, 2010 17:52:54 GMT -5
^^Doubt it. I know that we shouldnt judge the yet be named album to BTL, but if you realy listen to BTL you'll find alot of the Oasis trademarks. Piano riff (which can be found on 25-30% of Oasis tracks), simplistic riff and solo, simplistic lyrics, simple repeating choruses. Really not that much different from a regular Oasis track. The thing that makes people think thats its totally different are the backing vocals, but I think that if you put in Noel's voice as backing vocals then you get really close to an Oasis track.
People can say that BDI sound different, but the Oasis trademarks are there and will always be there. I mean its not like BDI is going to go Jazz fusion on us. lol
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 17:55:32 GMT -5
^^Doubt it. I know that we shouldnt judge the yet be named album to BTL, but if you realy listen to BTL you'll find alot of the Oasis trademarks. Piano riff (which can be found on 25-30% of Oasis tracks), simplistic riff and solo, simplistic lyrics, simple repeating choruses. Really not that much different from a regular Oasis track. The thing that makes people think thats its totally different are the backing vocals, but I think that if you put in Noel's voice as backing vocals then you get really close to an Oasis track. People can say that BDI sound different, but the Oasis trademarks are there and will always be there. I mean its not like BDI is going to go Jazz fusion on us. lol That's the details...but it sounds quite different when you step back and look @ the whole song. I does sound like an Liam tune...which would basically explain all the similarities...but the approach is much different
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Post by spaneli on Nov 11, 2010 18:09:58 GMT -5
^^Doubt it. I know that we shouldnt judge the yet be named album to BTL, but if you realy listen to BTL you'll find alot of the Oasis trademarks. Piano riff (which can be found on 25-30% of Oasis tracks), simplistic riff and solo, simplistic lyrics, simple repeating choruses. Really not that much different from a regular Oasis track. The thing that makes people think thats its totally different are the backing vocals, but I think that if you put in Noel's voice as backing vocals then you get really close to an Oasis track. People can say that BDI sound different, but the Oasis trademarks are there and will always be there. I mean its not like BDI is going to go Jazz fusion on us. lol That's the details...but it sounds quite different when you step back and look @ the whole song. I does sound like an Liam tune...which would basically explain all the similarities...but the approach is much different Approach is as different as instead Liam putting an Oasis like riff on guitar he puts it on piano. Thats really the only difference even if you look at it from a whole.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 11, 2010 18:20:05 GMT -5
That's the details...but it sounds quite different when you step back and look @ the whole song. I does sound like an Liam tune...which would basically explain all the similarities...but the approach is much different Approach is as different as instead Liam putting an Oasis like riff on guitar he puts it on piano. Thats really the only difference even if you look at it from a whole. Makes a pretty significant sonic difference to me...
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Post by LlAM on Nov 12, 2010 11:34:18 GMT -5
^^Doubt it. I know that we shouldnt judge the yet be named album to BTL, but if you realy listen to BTL you'll find alot of the Oasis trademarks. Piano riff (which can be found on 25-30% of Oasis tracks), simplistic riff and solo, simplistic lyrics, simple repeating choruses. Really not that much different from a regular Oasis track. The thing that makes people think thats its totally different are the backing vocals, but I think that if you put in Noel's voice as backing vocals then you get really close to an Oasis track. People can say that BDI sound different, but the Oasis trademarks are there and will always be there. I mean its not like BDI is going to go Jazz fusion on us. lol That's the details...but it sounds quite different when you step back and look @ the whole song. I does sound like an Liam tune...which would basically explain all the similarities...but the approach is much different The approach, production and the music is very Oasis-ish. Take out the piano and it's basicly a sped up version of TSOTL.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2010 11:50:49 GMT -5
That's the details...but it sounds quite different when you step back and look @ the whole song. I does sound like an Liam tune...which would basically explain all the similarities...but the approach is much different The approach, production and the music is very Oasis-ish. Take out the piano and it's basicly a sped up version of TSOTL. Not to me, it sounds like no Oasis song.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2010 11:51:15 GMT -5
... has he gone running back yet, tail between his legs? Hello Troll, hows it going?
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Post by oneeye on Nov 12, 2010 12:06:38 GMT -5
^^Doubt it. I know that we shouldnt judge the yet be named album to BTL, but if you realy listen to BTL you'll find alot of the Oasis trademarks. Piano riff (which can be found on 25-30% of Oasis tracks), simplistic riff and solo, simplistic lyrics, simple repeating choruses. Really not that much different from a regular Oasis track. The thing that makes people think thats its totally different are the backing vocals, but I think that if you put in Noel's voice as backing vocals then you get really close to an Oasis track. People can say that BDI sound different, but the Oasis trademarks are there and will always be there. I mean its not like BDI is going to go Jazz fusion on us. lol So like the majority of music in general then? Piano in Oasis songs - more like 5% ish? People are trying too hard to find similarities between BE and Oasis, yes it's the obvious thing to do but we must treat BE as a new band!
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Post by caats19 on Nov 12, 2010 12:34:26 GMT -5
liam's gonna be the only running back when he sees the crowd size for beady eye shows i'd say. Liam lived for the stadium more than Noel. and that's not a knock on the music quality, just the truth of it.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2010 12:35:32 GMT -5
liam's gonna be the only running back when he sees the crowd size for beady eye shows i'd say. Liam lived for the stadium more than Noel. and that's not a knock on the music quality, just the truth of it. I think in England they'll be able to attract a decent sized crowd.
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Post by vespa on Nov 12, 2010 13:02:28 GMT -5
will more than likely do arena shows and go back to the small venues.the guys quite right the more you listen to the track properly the more you can still hear an oasis influence but it still sounds fresh an to me i think oasis shouldve done something like this on the last album instead of going back to basics.this wouldve followed on nicely from dbtt,not that doys was a bad album but just took a step back for as a whole album.this song is brilliant an im sure noel will be sitting pretty proud really,its a thumping tune!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2010 13:09:54 GMT -5
... has he gone running back yet, tail between his legs? Hello Troll, hows it going? Not bad, Voltaire. How's being smart going? x
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2010 13:14:59 GMT -5
Not bad mate, not bad at all.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2010 13:19:09 GMT -5
Keep it up, girlfriend x
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2010 13:27:17 GMT -5
You too sister.
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Post by Nyron Nosworthy on Nov 12, 2010 15:13:06 GMT -5
liam's gonna be the only running back when he sees the crowd size for beady eye shows i'd say. Liam lived for the stadium more than Noel. and that's not a knock on the music quality, just the truth of it. I think in England they'll be able to attract a decent sized crowd. Disagree. Can't see them selling out arenas, they'll be lucky to get about half capacity imo.
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Post by Robohump on Nov 12, 2010 15:48:09 GMT -5
Noel is most likely laughing his ass off at how absolutely horrible this song is. Jesus, if this song made it on an Oasis album I would have melted all my Oasis albums and CD's in protest.
Thank God Noel left while the getting was good. Really, he should have left in 2001 so that travesty of an album Heathen Chemistry would have never been made, but it's better late than never.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 12, 2010 16:08:40 GMT -5
I think in England they'll be able to attract a decent sized crowd. Disagree. Can't see them selling out arenas, they'll be lucky to get about half capacity imo. Well when I said decent sized crowd I was thinking 5000-8000 thousand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2010 16:55:16 GMT -5
Not for this tune, I think I wonder if this album will be full of things that Noel wouldn't let them do over the past 10 years? He could have stopped Little James ...but he didn't!
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Post by paranoidandroid on Nov 12, 2010 18:39:35 GMT -5
I can't see beady eye selling out stadiums. I can't see Noel selling out stadiums. Separate they are simply not big enough.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 12, 2010 19:04:03 GMT -5
I can't see beady eye selling out stadiums. I can't see Noel selling out stadiums. Separate they are simply not big enough. Same thing here. Even if this BDI album would be amazing, the BDI name just doesnt carry the same weight. Same thing with Noel. What BDI and Noel will have to do is not focus on the size of the gig, but the profile of the gig. If you play the major music festivals and do some tv promo stuff, then that can get you back to stadium level, but that would take both a 2-3 years to be able to rebuild that kind of support as solo artists.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 12, 2010 19:05:47 GMT -5
I can't see beady eye selling out stadiums. I can't see Noel selling out stadiums. Separate they are simply not big enough. This. And once both realize it, they'll miss it. Noel has continually spoken about how special it is for him to hear 80,000 people sing his songs back to him, and that anyone would "be an idiot to walk away from that." If they both come to the conclusion that they'll never get that crowd size, and realize they both miss it, I think we can see a full blown reunion.....But I wouldn't bet on that.
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Post by spaneli on Nov 12, 2010 19:15:21 GMT -5
I can't see beady eye selling out stadiums. I can't see Noel selling out stadiums. Separate they are simply not big enough. This. And once both realize it, they'll miss it. Noel has continually spoken about how special it is for him to hear 80,000 people sing his songs back to him, and that anyone would "be an idiot to walk away from that." If they both come to the conclusion that they'll never get that crowd size, and realize they both miss it, I think we can see a full blown reunion.....But I wouldn't bet on that. I dont know if Liam knows that, but I think that Noel already knows that. He's not dumb, he knows that 1-1 doesnt not =3. Noel was perfectly able to do his acoustic gigs for a whole tour and liked it. Besides when Noel tours, I'll doubt if he'll want to do a mssive tour. He'll want to do small tours around the UK many some parts of Europe and mabye 5-7 cities in the US. And I think he'll like that format. Another thing is if Noel & Liam want those crowds then they know that all they have to do is do music festivals.
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