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Post by The Morning Son on Nov 10, 2010 12:52:36 GMT -5
Like many others, I really digs this tune. Some do but some hate it.
Personal opinions aside though, has Liam & co done a spot of marketing brilliance...........
In the latter years, Oasis almost became the enemy or the marmite shall we say. It had millions of fans but apart from them there was a real disdain to the music they put out and there attitude.
So a tune of this kind will bode well with the average music fan, as its such a departure from Oasis that is a chance to start fresh and grab new fans. This in itself could draw thousands more into buying future singles or albums.
The Oasis fans are gonna buy the album regardless of this single/release because they will be intrigued to see what it is to come but this new style could have just grabbed an extra bunch of fans.
Also with all the division between people who love and hate this song, they have created there own marketing.
People are talking, talking, talking about Beady Eye. There is a thread on this forum with 19 pages and this is a song with little, if not any promotion.
When Oasis dropped in 1994, people bought records because they were interested. The attitude and the outspoken nature created a buzz. All this conflict between the public could do the same, people are now talking about Beady Eye which in itself's could increase sales too. People are wanting to see what is on that album.
I could have read the release wrong and Beady Eye flop but the band are experienced and pretty clever too. I think they should deserve credit for creating a new brand and staying well away from Noel or Oasis. This is what could help them be a success.
I like the tune, I like the 20 second riff too. If anything I just see this as a starter and things are only going to get better. Cannot wait!
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Post by ETrilk on Nov 10, 2010 12:56:12 GMT -5
True. Good post.
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Post by vespa on Nov 10, 2010 13:28:17 GMT -5
it is but to me it also shows they can pull it off without noel.this is a top top tune an will bring brand new fans in
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Post by worldsoutro on Nov 10, 2010 13:30:30 GMT -5
Top ten tune?? To you........ I think musically it is good but the lyrics suck so bad its hard to enjoy
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Nov 10, 2010 13:30:35 GMT -5
Excellent post.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 10, 2010 13:32:29 GMT -5
This is not a new brand...this is Jerry Lee Lewis' brand.
There is already music out there for people that like piano driven music....they aren't creating a market or pushing a novel idea. And frankly I have heard enough piano driven music better than this to not recommend this song.
I am not thrilled with the song.
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Post by oasislegends on Nov 10, 2010 13:35:28 GMT -5
It's not Oasis - therefore, I dislike the song
Simples
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Post by supersonic8587 on Nov 10, 2010 13:39:35 GMT -5
Great post. I agree, if you look on other websites even there are a lot of people talking about the track. People really have a lot to say about it, and it isn't the reaction I expected before I heard the tune. I figured Oasis fans would like it, and others wouldn't, just like we saw with Oasis. The opposite seems to be true though. There are a lot of Oasis fans who don't like it, and a lot of people who didn't like Oasis who do.
It will be very interesting to see where this all goes from here.
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Post by The Morning Son on Nov 10, 2010 13:58:30 GMT -5
This is not a new brand...this is Jerry Lee Lewis' brand. I just meant Beady Eye has been born with a new look, new dynamic and new sound. They are going for it on there own and are drawing away from Oasis and Noel so even if you dont like it as Oasis fans you must respect that. I am optimistic about Beady Eye and I think the doubters should still give it a chance. They could be very commercially successful now. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 10, 2010 14:10:41 GMT -5
This is not a new brand...this is Jerry Lee Lewis' brand. I just meant Beady Eye has been born with a new look, new dynamic and new sound. They are going for it on there own and are drawing away from Oasis and Noel so even if you dont like it as Oasis fans you must respect that. I am optimistic about Beady Eye and I think the doubters should still give it a chance. They could be very commercially successful now. Fair enough they've moved away from the Oasis mold...but they are hardly moving forward. This song doesn't have a very modern feel...they are still stuck in the same period with slightly different influences. I still see it as highly derivitive...which was the same thing Oasis was. But the thing about Oasis was that Noel could swipe something from another song and make it all his own. This isn't retro with a new twist, like Amy Whinehouse, Duffy etc...this is just retro. They need something more than this to break the airwaves. Plus a melody wouldn't have gone awry. The fact is that the album probably isn't gonna sound alot like this considering that the band is actually has two guitarists and the piano player isn't even a member of the band. |
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Post by vespa on Nov 10, 2010 17:14:07 GMT -5
what exactly is a modern feel an what is exactly moving forward???radiohead with there keyboard bollocks?coldplay with there dreary shit??andorgous amorphous whatever there called cos noel loves em an there songs are messed up shite??keane cos they added guitars?just what is modern music an moving on??who in music today has produced something like this??it sounds fresh,its exciting and basically because its got an old skool layout and its not oasis with guitars some people hate it??this track wouldve sat nicely on doys but noel doesnt push the boat when it comes to oasis.an to say its nothing new like winehouse or duffy well my first reaction was this sounds like a good version of duffy!!!and you telling me theres no melody??whats the piano??thats a great bluesy rock n roll melody!!just because theres no thudering guitars an bass doesnt mean its not rock n roll,this is the classic form an ive a feeling this will gain alot more respect from the general public than alot of oasis releases this decade,and for the information from what ive heard of noels demos its supposed to be a great album but very very slow
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Nov 10, 2010 17:19:48 GMT -5
Good post
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Post by gdforever on Nov 10, 2010 17:39:10 GMT -5
what exactly is a modern feel an what is exactly moving forward???radiohead with there keyboard bollocks?coldplay with there dreary shit??andorgous amorphous whatever there called cos noel loves em an there songs are messed up shite??keane cos they added guitars?just what is modern music an moving on??who in music today has produced something like this??it sounds fresh,its exciting and basically because its got an old skool layout and its not oasis with guitars some people hate it??this track wouldve sat nicely on doys but noel doesnt push the boat when it comes to oasis.an to say its nothing new like winehouse or duffy well my first reaction was this sounds like a good version of duffy!!!and you telling me theres no melody??whats the piano??thats a great bluesy rock n roll melody!!just because theres no thudering guitars an bass doesnt mean its not rock n roll,this is the classic form an ive a feeling this will gain alot more respect from the general public than alot of oasis releases this decade,and for the information from what ive heard of noels demos its supposed to be a great album but very very slow It sounds like they literally put Jerry Lee Lewis on the keyboard stool. It sounds less like inspiration and more like an actual song from the 60's. It would actually fit in on a golden oldies station. That is what I mean by not having a modern feel. it's not like they've added anything to the musical spectrum with this is all I am saying. I didn't say it wasn't rock 'n roll. It is...without a shadow of a doubt. The melody isn't very prominant. It's more groove-based than melody-based. That is all well and good...but I prefer more melody. Try humming along to it and you'll see what I mean. And who cares about Noel @ a time like this. Or Oasis for that matter. This is about BDI. |
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Post by alwaysnow on Nov 10, 2010 17:55:40 GMT -5
They've created a buzz, alright. We'll just have to wait and see if it tips towards the positive.
I don't think it will have a huge impact, though. The singles will be better indication on what to commercially expect from the band.
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Post by ivaldos on Nov 10, 2010 18:03:26 GMT -5
I couldn't agree more. Great post.
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Post by vespa on Nov 10, 2010 18:13:40 GMT -5
yeh jerry lewis could be sat at the piano but for me theres alot of inspiritaion there and for one there enjoying themselves again an its brought out a great side in liams vocals,the female vocals are great aswell.people have there opinion but i get sick of people saying its old,its not rock n roll,its sounds like this sounds like that,theyve had that since the 90s when in reality oasis sounded like oasis an nothing like the beatles until say the last 2 albums where they went out there way to do so
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Post by NYR on Nov 10, 2010 18:18:11 GMT -5
vespa, there's a difference between jerry lewis and jerry lee lewis. just so you know.
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 10, 2010 18:20:21 GMT -5
vespa, there's a difference between jerry lewis and jerry lee lewis. just so you know. ;D |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 10, 2010 18:20:44 GMT -5
yeh jerry lewis could be sat at the piano but for me theres alot of inspiritaion there and for one there enjoying themselves again an its brought out a great side in liams vocals,the female vocals are great aswell.people have there opinion but i get sick of people saying its old,its not rock n roll,its sounds like this sounds like that,theyve had that since the 90s when in reality oasis sounded like oasis an nothing like the beatles until say the last 2 albums where they went out there way to do so Why are you getting angry @ me. This is retro. It is rock 'n roll. There is nothing new in this that hasn't been seen in music before. But it is good if the boys are having fun in the studio again. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Nov 10, 2010 18:23:45 GMT -5
This is not a new brand...this is Jerry Lee Lewis' brand. There is already music out there for people that like piano driven music....they aren't creating a market or pushing a novel idea. And frankly I have heard enough piano driven music better than this to not recommend this song. I am not thrilled with the song. I haven't heard any band rip off the 50's rock n roll for some time. |
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 10, 2010 18:23:58 GMT -5
yeh jerry lewis could be sat at the piano but for me theres alot of inspiritaion there and for one there enjoying themselves again an its brought out a great side in liams vocals,the female vocals are great aswell.people have there opinion but i get sick of people saying its old,its not rock n roll,its sounds like this sounds like that,theyve had that since the 90s when in reality oasis sounded like oasis an nothing like the beatles until say the last 2 albums where they went out there way to do so Why are you getting angry @ me. This is retro. It is rock 'n roll. There is nothing new in this that hasn't been seen in music before. But it is good if the boys are having fun in the studio again. for seriousness, are u NL4E? |
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Post by danscouse on Nov 10, 2010 18:26:24 GMT -5
This is not a new brand...this is Jerry Lee Lewis' brand. There is already music out there for people that like piano driven music....they aren't creating a market or pushing a novel idea. And frankly I have heard enough piano driven music better than this to not recommend this song. I am not thrilled with the song. There's already piano driven music?! So what? There's already guitar driven music too... |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 10, 2010 18:27:42 GMT -5
Why are you getting angry @ me. This is retro. It is rock 'n roll. There is nothing new in this that hasn't been seen in music before. But it is good if the boys are having fun in the studio again. for seriousness, are u NL4E? Are you a douche? |
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Post by Guy Fawkes on Nov 10, 2010 18:28:39 GMT -5
for seriousness, are u NL4E? Are you a douche? that sounds COMPLETELY made up. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 10, 2010 18:29:03 GMT -5
This is not a new brand...this is Jerry Lee Lewis' brand. There is already music out there for people that like piano driven music....they aren't creating a market or pushing a novel idea. And frankly I have heard enough piano driven music better than this to not recommend this song. I am not thrilled with the song. There's already piano driven music?! So what? There's already guitar driven music too... Just saying that it's not new or revelationary for them to have used a piano. That's all. There are bands already doing it...and they are doing it better than this. |
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