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Post by sunshheeeyine on Nov 8, 2010 14:30:54 GMT -5
Oasisnet Is currently promoting Beady Eyes site
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Post by Dream On on Nov 8, 2010 14:35:39 GMT -5
Thye have also posted at least 2 updates on facebook today advertising it.
Probably because its most likely ran by the same people under the same record label, for technically the same band.
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Post by sunshheeeyine on Nov 8, 2010 14:39:32 GMT -5
I doubt theyre using the same label, rumour has it that theyve created their own label
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Post by Dream On on Nov 8, 2010 14:40:56 GMT -5
I think they have just used big brother but extended it so noel obviously doesnt get anything for their music.
Thats what ive interpreted anyway
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Post by sunshheeeyine on Nov 8, 2010 14:45:31 GMT -5
noels apparently been using sour mash again, signed a new band in august, this might basically be the end of bb since oasis were the only band signed to it
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Post by bonkers on Nov 8, 2010 14:49:28 GMT -5
beady eye are on beady eye records ltd
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Post by sunshheeeyine on Nov 8, 2010 14:52:38 GMT -5
beady eye are on beady eye records ltd i thought so |
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Post by Dream On on Nov 8, 2010 15:22:10 GMT -5
Hah fair enough then!
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Post by gdforever on Nov 8, 2010 16:30:28 GMT -5
I think they have just used big brother but extended it so noel obviously doesnt get anything for their music. Thats what ive interpreted anyway I doubt it is that hard to set up a new label. I'm sure they just created a new one. If BDI records were under the BB umbrella Liam couldn't stop Noel from getting some proceeds and Gem and Andy would still own nothing. I think that the 3 boys pooled their money, probably stole some staff from the now defunct BB, and created a new record label. Also...to the person that said that Noel signed a band to Sour Mash August. Where did you hear that and what and is it? I was under the impression he hasn't done much involving music other than the Paul Weller drumming and attending a gig here and there. |
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Post by Bellboy on Nov 8, 2010 16:36:24 GMT -5
I think they have just used big brother but extended it so noel obviously doesnt get anything for their music. Thats what ive interpreted anyway This. Distributed through EMI I think. |
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Post by sunshheeeyine on Nov 8, 2010 16:50:50 GMT -5
I think they have just used big brother but extended it so noel obviously doesnt get anything for their music. Thats what ive interpreted anyway I doubt it is that hard to set up a new label. I'm sure they just created a new one. If BDI records were under the BB umbrella Liam couldn't stop Noel from getting some proceeds and Gem and Andy would still own nothing. I think that the 3 boys pooled their money, probably stole some staff from the now defunct BB, and created a new record label. Also...to the person that said that Noel signed a band to Sour Mash August. Where did you hear that and what and is it? I was under the impression he hasn't done much involving music other than the Paul Weller drumming and attending a gig here and there. Noel signed a liverpudliann band called The Sand Band and from what i hear there may be a possible collaboration between the two |
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Post by Dream On on Nov 8, 2010 17:29:23 GMT -5
I think they have just used big brother but extended it so noel obviously doesnt get anything for their music. Thats what ive interpreted anyway This. Distributed through EMI I think. The item code for the new single is BDI 1 too which relates to RKID of Big Brother. Who knows atm though! |
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Post by copie on Nov 8, 2010 17:32:03 GMT -5
Of course the oasisinet would promote BDY...
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Post by gdforever on Nov 8, 2010 20:01:48 GMT -5
This. Distributed through EMI I think. The item code for the new single is BDI 1 too which relates to RKID of Big Brother. Who knows atm though! I don't know why you all seem to think it's so difficult to set up a new private label. Particularly when you aren't taking care of any of the distribution through it. Basicallly it is just the company through which you fund the album and associated costs. Andy, Gem, and Liam probably have enough money to cover that cost. Any release that is under the banner of Big Brother Noel WILL get a share of. So if BDI records is part of Big Brother there is nothing that Liam could do to stop that. Noel is a part owner...anything that label releases increases the companies worth which benefits him. Plus he would have to agree with Gem and Andy buying in to the company and thereby reducing his share...which I doubt he'd do. The most valuable thing that label owns is the Oasis back-catalogue...for Andy and gem to buy into that would probably be more expensive than just contributing to the start-up cost of a new label. I think that BDI belongs to the BDI members alone. Possibly Chris, possibly not...but I think definitely Liam, Andy, and Gem. Plus BDI is only related to RKID in that it's an acronym that in associated with the label title. I sure it's not that unique a concept for vanity labels to do this. Like people getting vanity license plates. |
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Post by spaneli on Nov 8, 2010 21:37:28 GMT -5
^^Well to set up a label you first need the money. But the way you make it sound, you make it sound as if the money is all you need. There's alot that goes into a label. First thing you have to do is set up naming itself, then you have to set up offices, then you have to hire a staff, you must also set up copyrights because the founders of a label are not the only ones who get copyrights (such as the places where you record, the publishing) Those just don't get set up on your own.
Another thing is representation.Whether Liam wants to keep the same agent, the label needs its own accountants and lawyers and chances are that Liam nor anyone else in the group want their personal lawyers or accountants handling the label. You want to keep business and personal seperate. There's a lot of moving parts in label and a lot of people who have to be hired and they have to be the right people.
It took Liam a pretty long time to set up Pretty Green, do you think that making a record label is any easier. I'm sorry, but I think that you are making it sound way too overly simple. So yes you're probably right ad BDI have their own label, but I pray to god that they're approach is not too simplistic. Becasue the reason Noel doesnt have to be at Sourmash that much is because he hired the right people and did the amazing leg work to set up something that could work on its own. BDI must do the same thing and it takes no less work.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 8, 2010 23:23:23 GMT -5
^^Well to set up a label you first need the money. But the way you make it sound, you make it sound as if the money is all you need. There's alot that goes into a label. First thing you have to do is set up naming itself, then you have to set up offices, then you have to hire a staff, you must also set up copyrights because the founders of a label are not the only ones who get copyrights (such as the places where you record, the publishing) Those just don't get set up on your own. Another thing is representation.Whether Liam wants to keep the same agent, the label needs its own accountants and lawyers and chances are that Liam nor anyone else in the group want their personal lawyers or accountants handling the label. You want to keep business and personal seperate. There's a lot of moving parts in label and a lot of people who have to be hired and they have to be the right people. It took Liam a pretty long time to set up Pretty Green, do you think that making a record label is any easier. I'm sorry, but I think that you are making it sound way too overly simple. So yes you're probably right ad BDI have their own label, but I pray to god that they're approach is not too simplistic. Becasue the reason Noel doesnt have to be at Sourmash that much is because he hired the right people and did the amazing leg work to set up something that could work on its own. BDI must do the same thing and it takes no less work. None of that is difficut @ all really...as long as you have access to the right kind of people. Offices are not hard to find. I wouldn't be surprised if BDI records brought over a core group of people from Big Brother. After all, Big Brother may never have a new release again...it's bascially gonna be nothing but compilations for the foreseeable future...so they were probably going to have to lay off some people anyways. It wouldn't have taken much for Liam to have headhunter some of that staff. Naming rights are a cinche as long as you don't have to fight someone for the name. Just a matter of filing stock paperwork. Wouldn't surprise me if they were using the same law firm as Big Brother did. Probably the same accounting firm as well. All the copyright issues are pretty standard I am sure. It's an issue that I am sure any law firm with a music department has alot of experience in. The hardest thing would probably been the distributing deal...that is where alot of nuance and negotiation would have happened. Liam had no experience and few connections in the fashion industry...he has tons in the recording industry. He knows people that have already set up a label for his brother and him previously. So yes I do think that it was easier to start BDI records than it was to start PG. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 8, 2010 23:26:05 GMT -5
I doubt it is that hard to set up a new label. I'm sure they just created a new one. If BDI records were under the BB umbrella Liam couldn't stop Noel from getting some proceeds and Gem and Andy would still own nothing. I think that the 3 boys pooled their money, probably stole some staff from the now defunct BB, and created a new record label. Also...to the person that said that Noel signed a band to Sour Mash August. Where did you hear that and what and is it? I was under the impression he hasn't done much involving music other than the Paul Weller drumming and attending a gig here and there. Noel signed a liverpudliann band called The Sand Band and from what i hear there may be a possible collaboration between the two I remember that story...didn't believe it at the time. Don't believe it now. Particularly since it was over 2 months ago and nothing more came of it. |
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Post by beadyeyeunofficial on Nov 9, 2010 12:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by bonkers on Nov 9, 2010 12:45:24 GMT -5
the sand band are on 'go to hell / deltasonic' that website has nothing to do with sour mash records |
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Post by beadyeyeunofficial on Nov 9, 2010 12:49:59 GMT -5
I posted the link because it explained about the drummer in TSB being Chris's son. I knew the surnames were the same, but I never realised they were related.
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