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Post by matt on Oct 22, 2010 8:31:11 GMT -5
Ah, so McCartney is still in his prime, eh? We'll probably get another Abbey Road quality album with his next release then. I can't wait! And Noel... I guess he's still capable of a dozen more 'Live Forever's" or "Don't Look Back In Anger's" or "Supersonic's". We should all be expecting another Definitely Maybe any day now. From the Beatles, to the Stones, to Oasis, to U2, to Bowie, to Michael Jackson, to damn near everybody... musical creativity seems to peak in the 20's and into the early 30's and goes downhill very quickly thereafter. The inspiration or approach may not be there, but the ability sure as hell is. For you to deny that is simply absurd. You cannot be past your prime with writing. Look at all the amazing authors, I guess they peaked after their first major book? Don't be daft. You can't lose the ability to write well as long as your mind is in tact. Sort of see where you're coming from. I don't think age has a thing to do with it at all - bands like Franz Ferdinand were in their thirties with their critically acclaimed debut album. Likewise, Elbow have been on the go for over ten years now, and the amazing Seldom Seen Kid album released a couple of years ago was when most band members were in their late thirties. Personally, it's all about inspiration and many artists who have experienced what it's like at the top for a few years lack the motivation to continue because they've been there, done that. They know what most of us don't know. Of course it helps if bands have the versatality to re-invent themselves and change their styles like U2 who are a good example. You'd of thought it would of been all downhill after Pop, they'd run out of steam and that they were part of a bygone era but credit to them, they came back a few years later and released the excellent All That You Can't Leave Behind - this album being twenty years after their first album Boy. Likewise with Bob Dylan - some years of mediocrity then in the mid 1970s he released Blood On The Tracks which is personally my favourite of his. So age doesn't have all to do with it - okay, when you're much older it's harder to find that stamina and motivation but mostly it's all about inspiration so if Noel feels more inspired and liberated by going it alone, then good. I'm not expecting a Definitely Maybe or Morning Glory because those albums captured the mood and feeling of the public at the time plus there's a lot of youthful optimism in those tunes which is one advantage being younger has, but you don't need youthful optimism to be inspired by love, life or death for example. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Oct 22, 2010 8:34:13 GMT -5
The inspiration or approach may not be there, but the ability sure as hell is. For you to deny that is simply absurd. You cannot be past your prime with writing. Look at all the amazing authors, I guess they peaked after their first major book? Don't be daft. You can't lose the ability to write well as long as your mind is in tact. You run out of ideas. Thats what happens.... They have all written a bunch of songs, probaly there best ideas as songwriters but it get stale That's more to do with inspiration than ability..... If Noel is inspired, he will create an incredible album. He was inspired for DOYS, and his contribution to that album was incredible. That proves my point, really. |
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Post by matt on Oct 22, 2010 10:13:50 GMT -5
You run out of ideas. Thats what happens.... They have all written a bunch of songs, probaly there best ideas as songwriters but it get stale That's more to do with inspiration than ability..... If Noel is inspired, he will create an incredible album. He was inspired for DOYS, and his contribution to that album was incredible. That proves my point, really. He was more inspired for those tunes than ones like the piss poor I Can See A Liar and All In The Mind but not the level of inspiration that gave us Live Forever for example. |
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Post by LlAM on Oct 23, 2010 10:12:49 GMT -5
There's a track on the album that sounds like something by The Who called Beatles & Stones and a good tune, Millionaire. Quite a few ballads have been done but I don't know if they're on the final LP track listing or not. haha that'll be way too easy for the critics  ;D |
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Post by Robohump on Oct 25, 2010 20:36:48 GMT -5
Ah, so McCartney is still in his prime, eh? We'll probably get another Abbey Road quality album with his next release then. I can't wait! And Noel... I guess he's still capable of a dozen more 'Live Forever's" or "Don't Look Back In Anger's" or "Supersonic's". We should all be expecting another Definitely Maybe any day now. From the Beatles, to the Stones, to Oasis, to U2, to Bowie, to Michael Jackson, to damn near everybody... musical creativity seems to peak in the 20's and into the early 30's and goes downhill very quickly thereafter. The inspiration or approach may not be there, but the ability sure as hell is. For you to deny that is simply absurd. You cannot be past your prime with writing. Look at all the amazing authors, I guess they peaked after their first major book? Don't be daft. You can't lose the ability to write well as long as your mind is in tact. Simply not true. Many of our mental abilities peak, then decline as we age. Musical creativity is but one of these abilities. This has all been studied for decades. IQ has been proven to peak in the mid-to-late 20's, then decline very slowly thereafter, for example. Among the fields that have been studied (physics, poetry, play-writing, novel-writing, math, etc.) poetry was the field that peaks earliest (late 20's). Poetry closely resembles song-writing. Novel-writing and philosophy actually peak in the 40's as life experience is very important in both fields. Is it just a coincidence that virtually all of the legends in music history wrote their greatest works in their 20's and 30's? Think of your all-time favorite songs. All were probably written by fairly young men or women. Here's a great article on the subject: online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703444804575071573334216604.html?mod=wsj_share_twitter |
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Post by Robohump on Oct 25, 2010 20:38:49 GMT -5
Ah, so McCartney is still in his prime, eh? We'll probably get another Abbey Road quality album with his next release then. I can't wait! And Noel... I guess he's still capable of a dozen more 'Live Forever's" or "Don't Look Back In Anger's" or "Supersonic's". We should all be expecting another Definitely Maybe any day now. From the Beatles, to the Stones, to Oasis, to U2, to Bowie, to Michael Jackson, to damn near everybody... musical creativity seems to peak in the 20's and into the early 30's and goes downhill very quickly thereafter. The inspiration or approach may not be there, but the ability sure as hell is. For you to deny that is simply absurd. You cannot be past your prime with writing. Look at all the amazing authors, I guess they peaked after their first major book? Don't be daft. You can't lose the ability to write well as long as your mind is in tact. Simply not true. Many of our mental abilities peak, then decline as we age. Musical creativity is but one of these abilities. This has all been studied for decades. IQ has been proven to peak in the mid-to-late 20's, then decline very slowly thereafter, for example. Among the fields that have been studied (physics, poetry, play-writing, novel-writing, math, etc.) poetry was the field that peaks earliest (late 20's). Poetry closely resembles song-writing. Novel-writing and philosophy actually peak in the 40's as life experience is very important in both fields. Is it just a coincidence that virtually all of the legends in music history wrote their greatest works in their 20's and 30's? Think of your all-time favorite songs. All were probably written by fairly young men or women. Here's a great article on the subject: online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703444804575071573334216604.html?mod=wsj_share_twitter |
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