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Post by supersonic8587 on Nov 5, 2010 13:02:41 GMT -5
I think oasistoonfan makes a good point in talking about the venue sizes they'll be playing. If they really want to start this thing over, they better be ready to play smaller venues because one album and some b-sides worth of material isn't going to sell out any stadiums. If they do want to play some bigger shows, they will have to depend on their old stuff. It really depends on what the band is going for.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 5, 2010 13:07:29 GMT -5
If they can't attract a crowd without Noels songs from 15 years ago then BE don't deserve to succeed.
It is not success if they can't succeed without Noels songs.
They may be 4/5 of the latest incarnation of Oasis. But they are only 1/5 of the bands that recorded the songs we would think of as classics.
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Post by gdforever on Nov 5, 2010 13:11:10 GMT -5
I'd like to see them play some old songs as much as the next guy, but every new band has to start somewhere. It's not like 1994 Oasis had a huge back catalog to play off of, and they turned out just fine. It's not a question of wanting them to play old LAG material, it's a question of them depending on it. We aren't talking about old LAG material. We all accept that we probably will hear non-Noel Oasis tunes. But what we are discussing is...will they play things like LF and CS and SMS, etc. "noel's" songs. The Oasis classics |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 5, 2010 13:11:21 GMT -5
They may be 4/5 of the latest incarnation of Oasis. But they are only 1/5 of the bands that recorded the songs we would think of as classics. more like 1/2 if you really think about it. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 5, 2010 13:14:34 GMT -5
They may be 4/5 of the latest incarnation of Oasis. But they are only 1/5 of the bands that recorded the songs we would think of as classics. more like 1/2 if you really think about it. 1/2 if you aren't thinking. 1/5 if you do stop and think about it. The fact is that Oasis 1994-1999 was a 5 piece. Sure Liam and Noel were the most talented, intriguing, and important members. But the other guys recorded them as well and were a part of the band. Point being that Gem and Andy don't actually have a share in them. |
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Post by supersonic8587 on Nov 5, 2010 13:17:30 GMT -5
It's not a question of wanting them to play old LAG material, it's a question of them depending on it. We aren't talking about old LAG material. We all accept that we probably will hear non-Noel Oasis tunes. But what we are discussing is...will they play things like LF and CS and SMS, etc. "noel's" songs. The Oasis classics Oh, well I was talking about LAG Oasis songs. I'm pretty sure there's no way we'll hear any Noel written tunes coming from Beady Eye. I mean one thing people want to see is whether or not they can be successful without Noel's help, and that would kind of defeat the purpose. Maybe, maybe, we'll see a "cover" of CS or something at the end of the set or during it at some point. Not a chance in hell the set list will be littered with Noel's tunes though. |
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Post by oneeye on Nov 5, 2010 13:26:51 GMT -5
I would actually think they MAY cover ONE Oasis (Noel) song
Liam has said he hates singing Wonderwall, so we can count that out. But something like Some Might Say I could see them covering in their Encore!
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 5, 2010 13:28:45 GMT -5
i don't think anyone was suggesting the setlist would be full of oasis noel-written songs, just a couple.
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Post by Marcos on Nov 5, 2010 13:33:52 GMT -5
I think it's a good thing about the small venues actually. Initmate gigs, closer to the audience. Liam won't need to shout so much!
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Post by gdforever on Nov 5, 2010 13:37:26 GMT -5
If they can't attract a crowd without Noels songs from 15 years ago then BE don't deserve to succeed. It is not success if they can't succeed without Noels songs. They may be 4/5 of the latest incarnation of Oasis. But they are only 1/5 of the bands that recorded the songs we would think of as classics. The reason this post by me looks out of place is that it a in reference to a post that someone has subsequently deleted. The other post said that if BE tried to come out of the dressing room without some Oasis classics or something they'd be killed. |
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Post by oneeye on Nov 5, 2010 13:39:13 GMT -5
I think it's a good thing about the small venues actually. Initmate gigs, closer to the audience. Liam won't need to shout so much! although sometimes hard to hear the music clearly  |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 5, 2010 13:41:12 GMT -5
i don't think anyone was suggesting the setlist would be full of oasis noel-written songs, just a couple. I don't think it should have even a couple. They would pick 2 on the most amazing Noel written Oasis tunes. They'd be the hightlight of the show with everyone singing along...and the BE material would probably pale in comparison...and that'll be sad. Gem, Andy, and Liam song certainly. But a Noel song...that would reek of desperation of them thinking they can't satisfy a crowd without a vintage Oasis classic. |
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Post by oneeye on Nov 5, 2010 13:46:33 GMT -5
i don't think anyone was suggesting the setlist would be full of oasis noel-written songs, just a couple. I don't think it should have even a couple. They would pick 2 on the most amazing Noel written Oasis tunes. They'd be the hightlight of the show with everyone singing along...and the BE material would probably pale in comparison...and that'll be sad. Gem, Andy, and Liam song certainly. But a Noel song...that would reek of desperation of them thinking they can't satisfy a crowd without a vintage Oasis classic. you know, I think Liam would think the same way  |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Nov 5, 2010 13:50:33 GMT -5
i don't think anyone was suggesting the setlist would be full of oasis noel-written songs, just a couple. I don't think it should have even a couple. They would pick 2 on the most amazing Noel written Oasis tunes. They'd be the hightlight of the show with everyone singing along...and the BE material would probably pale in comparison...and that'll be sad. Gem, Andy, and Liam song certainly. But a Noel song...that would reek of desperation of them thinking they can't satisfy a crowd without a vintage Oasis classic. let's face it, that would probably be the case. |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 5, 2010 14:26:48 GMT -5
I always thought that TYFTGT might be a good closer for the main show...before the encore and ending off on something mega of course
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Post by NYR on Nov 5, 2010 18:45:29 GMT -5
If Beady Eye did Headshrinker i think I'd pop me cloggs i can absolutely see them playing that, actually. |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Nov 5, 2010 20:08:02 GMT -5
I think most of you are forgeting something very important about a lot oasis songs: Noel's backing vocals. Wow the fuck do you expect them to play Turn Up The Sun, without Noel singing along Liam? With Gem or Andy? Please that would suck. And there are a lot of songs that would suck without Noel's backs. SMS, Slide Away, Morning Glory, and even non'-Noel songs like TMOS, AGN and TBWTL would sound horrible without his backs.
So yeah, I believe they might play GGTIA, IOT (for sure) and I would love to see Eyeball Tickler. And I don't see why they wouldn't close the gig with Supersonic, C&A orChampagne Supernova. After all, Gem and Andy could make it sound even better than Noel's solos. I know, it wouldn't be the same as Oasis, but still...
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Post by NYR on Nov 5, 2010 22:53:45 GMT -5
^ what makes you think they wouldn't try to arrange the songs differently? that's not entirely out of the question.
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Nov 6, 2010 15:46:29 GMT -5
Not entirely out of question, true, but I doubt they would bother to do so. All they would get would be "hmm cool but it sounded better with Noel"
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Post by LlAM on Nov 7, 2010 5:23:45 GMT -5
I think it's a good thing about the small venues actually. Initmate gigs, closer to the audience. Liam won't need to shout so much! LOL you really think he has to shout louder the more people there are!? Jesus Christ....... |
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Post by idledreamer on Nov 7, 2010 5:56:20 GMT -5
^ what makes you think they wouldn't try to arrange the songs differently? that's not entirely out of the question. ^ that, and also why can't andy and/or gem lend some backing vox?   |
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Post by oneeye on Nov 7, 2010 6:10:11 GMT -5
^ what makes you think they wouldn't try to arrange the songs differently? that's not entirely out of the question. ^ that, and also why can't andy and/or gem lend some backing vox? totally agree, I think Gem may be the obvious choice for backing vocals. Some songs will definitely need it. Although I love Liam's own backing vocals on the recorded versions like on D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman? |
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Post by gdforever on Nov 7, 2010 12:25:28 GMT -5
^ what makes you think they wouldn't try to arrange the songs differently? that's not entirely out of the question. ^ that, and also why can't andy and/or gem lend some backing vox? I agree. They can both sing there is no reason or them to not step up. Surely there will be some backing vocals on some BDI songs so it is hardly out of the realm of possibility. Probably Gem because I have heard Andy say he prefers not to sing. Maybe that was only singing lead though...come to think of it. |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Nov 7, 2010 13:41:32 GMT -5
^ that, and also why can't andy and/or gem lend some backing vox? totally agree, I think Gem may be the obvious choice for backing vocals. Some songs will definitely need it. Although I love Liam's own backing vocals on the recorded versions like on D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman? I never said they wouldn't do backing vocals, I bet they will. I just said that they won't do backing vocals as good as Noel does. Which means a version of Slide Away, for exemple, would never sound as good as it did on the last Oasis tour. Therefore, they wouldn't bother to play it. |
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Post by oneeye on Nov 7, 2010 14:50:13 GMT -5
totally agree, I think Gem may be the obvious choice for backing vocals. Some songs will definitely need it. Although I love Liam's own backing vocals on the recorded versions like on D'Yer Wanna Be A Spaceman? I never said they wouldn't do backing vocals, I bet they will. I just said that they won't do backing vocals as good as Noel does. Which means a version of Slide Away, for exemple, would never sound as good as it did on the last Oasis tour. Therefore, they wouldn't bother to play it. Won't know until we hear them I suppose I think they could get it pretty close on Slide Away, obviously songs like Slide Away and Noel's backing vocals are just epic - so anyone else doing them wouldn't come close! |
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