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Post by ohmeohmy on Dec 9, 2009 9:00:09 GMT -5
I can't believe people rate DBTT anywhere near DOYS, its yawnsome. Also witness Noel's song'writing' on DBTT:
Mucky Fingers : I'm Waiting for the Man Lyla : Concentration Camp The Importance of Being Idle : Clean Prophet Part of the Queue : Golden Brown
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Post by Cast on Dec 9, 2009 16:08:45 GMT -5
I can't believe people rate DBTT anywhere near DOYS, its yawnsome. Also witness Noel's song'writing' on DBTT: Mucky Fingers : I'm Waiting for the Man Lyla : Concentration Camp The Importance of Being Idle : Clean Prophet Part of the Queue : Golden Brown and yet most of those songs are better than the tunes he based them off of in my opinion. Its crazy isn't it? He has done this for years. Both albums are great. I will agree that Noel's writing is better on DOYS not a weak song in the bunch but his work on DBTT is great too, not a weak song in that bunch too but the DOYS ones stick out more. its mainly Andy and Liam not improving/digressing on DOYS that may bring it down for some. Here is my Liam and Andy break down for their songs on DBTT and DOYS Andy:TUTS>KTDA>TNOR Liam:GGTIA>LLAB>IOT>SO>AGN>MOS
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Post by bwilder on Dec 9, 2009 21:36:27 GMT -5
Agree, Cast. I think one of Noel's great talents (and it is a talent) is taking a song that's okay/good and making 10 times better by making it his own. Clouburst-Standing Here, Whatever-How Sweet To Be An Idiot, Step Out-Uptight, etc.
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Post by ohmeohmy on Dec 10, 2009 5:46:07 GMT -5
Is everyone on drugs? Mucky Fingers better than I'm Waiting for the Man?!? Part of the Queue better than Golden Brown?! Step Out better than Uptight?!!!!? Jeeeez, Y'all must of forgot.
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Post by lionsden® on Dec 11, 2009 0:23:00 GMT -5
I can't believe people rate DBTT anywhere near DOYS, its yawnsome. Also witness Noel's song'writing' on DBTT: Mucky Fingers : I'm Waiting for the Man Lyla : Concentration Camp The Importance of Being Idle : Clean Prophet Part of the Queue : Golden Brown How is Mucky Fingers anything like the above? Its has the same drum beat? Just cos Noel said he was influenced by the song doesn't mean they are anything alike. And they are not so fuck off. Golden Brown is a pile of shit song that should be binned before any Manilow song. If Noel pinched from that fuck me in the goat ass. The other 2 songs I do not know.
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Post by ohmeohmy on Dec 11, 2009 8:30:05 GMT -5
I can't believe people rate DBTT anywhere near DOYS, its yawnsome. Also witness Noel's song'writing' on DBTT: Mucky Fingers : I'm Waiting for the Man Lyla : Concentration Camp The Importance of Being Idle : Clean Prophet Part of the Queue : Golden Brown How is Mucky Fingers anything like the above? Its has the same drum beat? Just cos Noel said he was influenced by the song doesn't mean they are anything alike. And they are not so fuck off. Golden Brown is a pile of shit song that should be binned before any Manilow song. If Noel pinched from that fuck me in the goat ass. The other 2 songs I do not know. Lionsden, if you can't hear the 'similarities' (I'm being kind) between the two then you simply don't know music outside of your RKID bubble. Yes, they are alike, so YOU be a good chap and fuck off. Golden Brown is a fantastic punk pop track, so good in fact that Noel Gallagher stole it for Part of the Queue. I'd rather not "fuck you in the goat ass", though I have no problem at all pointing out the similarity between the two tracks for a mong like you. If you don't know ther other 2 songs I'll educate you quite simply: The great English band the Las have a track called Clean Prophet. Sounds exactly like the Importance of Being Idle. 'Cept it came first. Concentration Camp? Great track by one of Noel Gallagher's favourite bands TSOOL. Sounds a lot like Lyla. Jog on, yer fuckin mug.
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Post by lionsden® on Dec 11, 2009 13:26:23 GMT -5
How is Mucky Fingers anything like the above? Its has the same drum beat? Just cos Noel said he was influenced by the song doesn't mean they are anything alike. And they are not so fuck off. Golden Brown is a pile of shit song that should be binned before any Manilow song. If Noel pinched from that fuck me in the goat ass. The other 2 songs I do not know. Lionsden, if you can't hear the 'similarities' (I'm being kind) between the two then you simply don't know music outside of your RKID bubble. Yes, they are alike, so YOU be a good chap and fuck off. Golden Brown is a fantastic punk pop track, so good in fact that Noel Gallagher stole it for Part of the Queue. I'd rather not "fuck you in the goat ass", though I have no problem at all pointing out the similarity between the two tracks for a mong like you. If you don't know ther other 2 songs I'll educate you quite simply: The great English band the Las have a track called Clean Prophet. Sounds exactly like the Importance of Being Idle. 'Cept it came first. Concentration Camp? Great track by one of Noel Gallagher's favourite bands TSOOL. Sounds a lot like Lyla. Jog on, yer fuckin mug. I took music @ university so thank you very much Ya wee fuckin' shiter. I never said there were no similarities. By the way that you are talking its like Noel copied the entire fucking song note-for-note, and just changed the lyrics. Or did he steal the lyrics as well? The drums stick out as a similarity, but nothing else really does in my opinion between Mucky Fingers and IWFTM. The melodies and overall song structure fail to compare. Golden Brown is fucking awful. Please do point out all of the similarities besides the opening riff. I checked out that La's song. You are going to compare TIOBI as a whole song to Clean Prophet? Because the opening and closing guitar riffs of TIOBI have similar strumming techniques of those used on Clean Prophet? You say the songs sound exacrly the same. Please elaborate. Also I am having one hell of a time locating a song by TSOOL called "Concentration Camp" Just because you look like the singer from TSOOL doean't mean you have to take your aggressions out on me.
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Post by ohmeohmy on Dec 11, 2009 19:10:26 GMT -5
How is Mucky Fingers anything like the above? I never said there were no similarities. You will you won't. You do you don't. I took music @ university so thank you very much Ya wee fuckin' shiter. Time and money well spent. I never said there were no similarities. By the way that you are talking its like Noel copied the entire fucking song note-for-note, and just changed the lyrics. Or did he steal the lyrics as well? Yep, I'm being outrageous. Uncalled for. An accusation of plagerism against the right honorable Noel Gallagher. Say it ain't so... Golden Brown is fucking awful. Please do point out all of the similarities besides the opening riff. You mean, the opening riff Noel Gallagher pinched from that 'fucking awful' song? That brings us back to.. Golden Brown.......If Noel pinched from that fuck me in the goat ass. Again, no thanks, you horrible beast. I checked out that La's song. You are going to compare TIOBI as a whole song to Clean Prophet? Because the opening and closing guitar riffs of TIOBI have similar strumming techniques of those used on Clean Prophet? You say the songs sound exacrly the same. Please elaborate.AND and closing guitar riffs of TIOBI Are the same. stolen. ripped off. copied. Also I am having one hell of a time locating a song by TSOOL called "Concentration Camp" Typo. Should have said CONFRONTATION Camp. My bad. I wouldn't bother checking it out. You'll hate it. Fuck all similarities to Lyla you have to take your aggressions out on me. Just cos Noel said he was influenced by the song doesn't mean they are anything alike. And they are not so fuck off. Are you on your period or just a dumb fuck who thinks taking music "@" uni is a good idea...oh wait.....
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Post by lionsden® on Dec 11, 2009 19:39:29 GMT -5
How is Mucky Fingers anything like the above? Ah yes. Now I see what you are on about.
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Post by ohmeohmy on Dec 11, 2009 19:45:35 GMT -5
One CNTRL+V in the wrong place, is like a right kick in the vagina.
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Post by lionsden® on Dec 11, 2009 20:12:02 GMT -5
I did say in my first post that the drums sounded similar in Mucky Fingers and IWFTM. I do not think that qualifies as plagarism,
You said above that TIOBI sounds exactly the same as Clean Prophet. The intro and outro sound simliar, but that amounts to about 20 seconds of a 3:40 song. I'm not seeing how that makes an entire song sound exactly like another.
Did Noel call you and tell you he pinched the riff from Golden Brown for POTQ? If he has been quoted as saying he did, I guess I do not know enough about the band.
I am on my period.
My beastly offer is still on the table.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2009 18:34:31 GMT -5
Golden Brown is a fucking great song.
It's not like Noel blatantly ripped off those tunes like he did Shakermaker or Cigarettes and Alcohol. There are similarities, and maybe he was inspired by them, but there's enough differences. I don't get the critics saying Lyla ripped off Street Fighting Man. I fucking don't hear any similarities between he two other then very similar openings for the verses.
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Post by calioasis on Jan 10, 2010 10:04:25 GMT -5
The production on Dig Out Your Soul is unbelievable. Put some headphones on and it's like entering a new world. If it didn't tail off at the end it might be my second most listened to Oasis album. Certainly holds up better than the exhausting Be Here Now. Don't Believe the Truth is really inconsistent on the production front. It's missing a lot of the cool audio seques that tie the tracks together. Also, Let There Be Love is the worst Oasis song ever, what an abomination.
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Post by bluebird2 on Jan 10, 2010 11:25:32 GMT -5
^ yeah man I agree with that.. although I really like Soldier On. But why is LTBL is a bad song? your opinion I guess.. If some of you haven't seen this guy's channel, he compares similiar songs that Noel supposedly ripped off.. quite interesting. www.youtube.com/user/oasisliveforever999
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Post by hogy on Jan 11, 2010 7:30:00 GMT -5
Half of it is pretty good but the rest is utter shite - dull, derivative and uninspiring. I'm afraid it goes down as another wasted opportunity in my book, along with pretty much every post-MG album. There are nuggets of brilliance to be found on every one of those subsequent records, it's just the inconsistency that kills them. Good post.... Thats the thing that killed it for me over the last few albums.. some serious serious gold.. but not enough to rank up there with the first 3...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jan 11, 2010 15:14:13 GMT -5
^ yeah man I agree with that.. although I really like Soldier On. But why is LTBL is a bad song? your opinion I guess.. If some of you haven't seen this guy's channel, he compares similiar songs that Noel supposedly ripped off.. quite interesting. www.youtube.com/user/oasisliveforever999LTBL is too small. It should have been an epic with a full sound behind it. The band originally wanted to go with the bigger sound, but Noel said ney, and kept it stripped down. It also needed another Noel-sung verse in it. And the outro is so unneccessary. I don't see it as a bad song (it's much better than ABWR, TNOR, PYMWYMI, etc) but it's not really good or amazing. Instead, it's average and didn't live up to it's full potential. On a side note, It's A Crime sounds much better than LTBL.....
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Post by matt on Jan 21, 2010 8:46:24 GMT -5
^ yeah man I agree with that.. although I really like Soldier On. But why is LTBL is a bad song? your opinion I guess.. If some of you haven't seen this guy's channel, he compares similiar songs that Noel supposedly ripped off.. quite interesting. www.youtube.com/user/oasisliveforever999LTBL is too small. It should have been an epic with a full sound behind it. The band originally wanted to go with the bigger sound, but Noel said ney, and kept it stripped down. It also needed another Noel-sung verse in it. And the outro is so unneccessary. I don't see it as a bad song (it's much better than ABWR, TNOR, PYMWYMI, etc) but it's not really good or amazing. Instead, it's average and didn't live up to it's full potential. On a side note, It's A Crime sounds much better than LTBL..... It's a good song, but I agree that it doesn't quite live up to it's potential. I could imagine strings being used in this song, to me it's just begging a string section.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Jan 21, 2010 11:47:07 GMT -5
I can't believe people rate DBTT anywhere near DOYS, its yawnsome. Also witness Noel's song'writing' on DBTT: Mucky Fingers : I'm Waiting for the Man Lyla : Concentration Camp The Importance of Being Idle : Clean Prophet Part of the Queue : Golden Brown Yeah we know Noel borrows...blah blah blah. DBTT is nowhere near as yawnsome as your apparent reason for not liking it.
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Post by jrs40 on Mar 24, 2010 4:31:54 GMT -5
Well I really like this record.
The nature of reality owns so does ain't got nothin.
the only shite songs are high horse and soldier on.
first 6 tracks are great, and the rest have really grown on me.
8/10 and that's not being generous, I'm surprised at the negative reaction to this.
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Post by supernovadragon on Mar 26, 2010 15:47:07 GMT -5
Recently I have listened to this album has a whole and I have to admit, though no MG or DM it is better than most out there. I only ever skip HHL now. Nature of Reality has grown on me big time. Gone up from a 5-6/10 to a 8/10 now for me this album. Still behind DBTT though for me
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Post by gdforever on Apr 11, 2010 22:01:34 GMT -5
The people who say TBWTB should have made the album are probably the same people that would have been the first to shoot is down if it had actually been on the album. It is a decent B-side...but hardly that good.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Apr 11, 2010 22:29:49 GMT -5
The people who say TBWTB should have made the album are probably the same people that would have been the first to shoot is down if it had actually been on the album. It is a decent B-side...but hardly that good. The point is that it's far superior to TNOR, AGN....
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Post by Mogly on Apr 12, 2010 1:22:16 GMT -5
The people who say TBWTB should have made the album are probably the same people that would have been the first to shoot is down if it had actually been on the album. It is a decent B-side...but hardly that good. exactly
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Post by gdforever on Apr 12, 2010 11:44:43 GMT -5
The people who say TBWTB should have made the album are probably the same people that would have been the first to shoot is down if it had actually been on the album. It is a decent B-side...but hardly that good. The point is that it's far superior to TNOR, AGN.... Maybe...but I don't really think so. TNOR and AGN are by far that worst songs on the album...if TBWTB had been placed on instead of either of them it would still be in the bottom 2...
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Post by gdforever on Apr 12, 2010 12:26:03 GMT -5
OK...so a 2 and a half years on...the sheen of the "new album" is off
All in all...I think I still like it. Love BIT, SOTL, TT, FD. Like IOT, TBWTL, WFTR, SO. Dislike GOYHHL, ANG, TNOR
One thing I will say about this album...this is the only Oasis album that,when I listen to it, I listen to it from start to finish in order. I am generally a big fan of the shuffle option...but despite the fact that when I really think about it I have problems with a number of the songs...I still like it as a record and would be inclined to give it a decently high score. It's a case of the whole being more that the sum of it's parts I think.
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