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Post by AlexLiam on Oct 8, 2009 14:46:08 GMT -5
in 2009 music is dead. Oasis live forever.
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Post by kimori1024 on Oct 8, 2009 15:14:03 GMT -5
There will still be an anouncement. I'll waiting until January to get sad, now I'll just pretend nothings wrong. I like that philosophy!
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Post by henrod89 on Oct 8, 2009 16:24:51 GMT -5
in 2009 music is dead. Oasis live forever. I assume when you write 'music' you mean Oasis. So if Oasis live forever, how can music ever be dead?
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Post by Marcos on Oct 8, 2009 16:41:04 GMT -5
I thought Liam had smashed Noel's guitar and not the other way around
or did i read it wrong?
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Post by A on Oct 8, 2009 17:28:02 GMT -5
I thought Liam had smashed Noel's guitar and not the other way around or did i read it wrong? That's what I thought too.
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Post by alwaysnow on Oct 8, 2009 17:47:25 GMT -5
I thought Liam had smashed Noel's guitar and not the other way around or did i read it wrong? The first versions on the conflict said Liam smashed Noel's guitar, but recently it's been said it was the other way around, Noel smashing Liam's guitar, that was a gift from Nicole. Who knows, who knows.
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Post by henrod89 on Oct 8, 2009 18:01:59 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet it was Liam that smashed the guitar and what not.
First of all, it seems like smashing a guitar is more of a Liam-thing-to-do.
Secondly, Noel was the one who said he was leaving because of violent intimidation towards him. How could he feel 'violent intimidation' towards him if he was the one smashing and throwing the guitar?
If Noel was the one breaking the guitar I guarantee Liam would have set that story straight right away.
Maybe I'm wrong . . .
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Post by NYR on Oct 8, 2009 19:34:58 GMT -5
in 2009 music is dead. Oasis live forever. music is far from dead. there are great bands out there. keep your ears and mind open, and you'll be surprised at how good some new bands are.
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Post by NYR on Oct 8, 2009 19:38:27 GMT -5
Better put NL4E on suicide watch. ;D post of the week! +k
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Post by ben fitz on Oct 8, 2009 19:38:39 GMT -5
in 2009 music is dead. Oasis live forever. music is far from dead. there are great bands out there. keep your ears and mind open, and you'll be surprised at how good some new bands are. It is sad how so many good talents get left out in the dark these days.
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Post by kimori1024 on Oct 9, 2009 4:20:28 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet it was Liam that smashed the guitar and what not. First of all, it seems like smashing a guitar is more of a Liam-thing-to-do. Secondly, Noel was the one who said he was leaving because of violent intimidation towards him. How could he feel 'violent intimidation' towards him if he was the one smashing and throwing the guitar? If Noel was the one breaking the guitar I guarantee Liam would have set that story straight right away. Maybe I'm wrong . . . As far as I've been told, Liam threw his guitar (the one given to him by Nicole) at Noel. Noel then stomped on it or otherwise smashed it before walking out. So Liam was being violent by throwing the guitar, but Noel ultimately destroyed it. So they are both sort of guilty in the situation...
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Post by seteluas on Oct 9, 2009 4:20:43 GMT -5
All I have to say is this "oasis is no longer" statement by Liam or management is at least a month overdue...and I mean that statement, just, liam or the management didn't have to give any further reaction if they were unwilling to...I can't see any reason for it not to have been made earlier (unless he efectively pondered the option of carrying on as oasis for some time)...It would have avoided so much speculation.... Bizzarely enough this makes it kind of unfair on Noel, as he was the one who had to react there and then, (If you see the rock en seine communication on you tube, it was decided then that Noel was to make a statement shortly after) when blood was still boiling and Liam was allowed to slip to silence for over a month, and give his cooled off views on the thing... Hopefully Noel will get his time and space to have a cooled off reaction as well, and wave his peace sign at liam, now that he spoke, avoiding the press to make it a battle between the brothers thing...
Other than that it was a good interview, even though Liam managed to still leave doubt regarding the future with that "people can buy his records. People can buy our records" thing (what does he mean???).
I sincerely wish them both luck... I hope Noel doesn't dwarf under the weight of expectation, and the fact that all he had planned for was a solo album, not a career that will force his to start from scratch all over again.
Saying that, It's time for Liam to raise his game...there are no excuses now...we, as fans shouldn't regard him as the little kid anymore, and be more tolerant towards liam's output than Noel's...for it to be fair we must hold the same level of demand the same from both... From my personal viewpoint Liam shoud try to do it for himself, not having andy and gem and an already well oiled machine to support him, and we should not forget that he still has a lot to prove as an artist... Anyway, if it does turn out that he's keeping gem and andy as his helpers, writing songs and supporting him, it will be interesting to see how liam positions himself in that band, will he assume leadership with all responsibility that comes with it? ie, soundchecks, taking care of his voice, making decisions towards album directions and promotion, etc, etc, etc... or will he just assume that someone else will do it for him and transfer the democles sword over noel's head to andy and gem's head ( they will have to ponder wisely IF they are ready for it)... In a way it would be good to see how the relationship between them will turn out having to deal with the day to day contentions, not being able to slip to their comfortable secondary role forever and eventually having to deal with liam's bad side...
As for those who seem to be wondering who broke who's guitar... I don't think we should take such a blind stroke on "who's guilty"... whatever lead to this has been going on for years...It's probably not just one thing...whatever happened backstage, whatever caused the argument, and regardless who's right or wrong in that particular issue (if anyone is even right...) it's only the tip of the iceberg...So let's avoid making judgements based on that... like Tom Meighan said, a lot should be going on for noel to quit his own band...one can only wonder...there is probably a lot of hurt involved on both sides...but let's also not be unfair...it's only fair to admit that noel had the big share of work behind the band, he really was the backbone and that is what makes it so difficult to picture oasis without him...and that's probably what's making Liam keep a low key over this...
It's been 18 years...if we have to judge anything, if ever we get to know what happened in paris, we have to put it into the perspective of what those 18 years have been and who they've been throughout those years. Put it into perspective...wonder how this: became this: and this: to shorlty become this: and this:
Having watched those videos...for all the last month I wondered did Noel really have reasons to walk away...and I was a bit infuriated at him sometimes...but does that really matter? As I said the fight was only their breaking point, noel's breaking point...and he's probably tremendously worn out...and after all..he was the one that threw all the work he had with the band to the ceiling...It probably was too much to take, and neither of them really could be bothered anymore...
Hope some good comes out of it, hope they can show themselves as they are to one another again, and not just like the roles in the band turned them to...
Live Forever
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Post by Ferret on Oct 9, 2009 4:32:23 GMT -5
Liam Gallagher/Plastic Appleton Band? ;D
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Post by henrod89 on Oct 9, 2009 11:20:20 GMT -5
I'd be willing to bet it was Liam that smashed the guitar and what not. First of all, it seems like smashing a guitar is more of a Liam-thing-to-do. Secondly, Noel was the one who said he was leaving because of violent intimidation towards him. How could he feel 'violent intimidation' towards him if he was the one smashing and throwing the guitar? If Noel was the one breaking the guitar I guarantee Liam would have set that story straight right away. Maybe I'm wrong . . . As far as I've been told, Liam threw his guitar (the one given to him by Nicole) at Noel. Noel then stomped on it or otherwise smashed it before walking out. So Liam was being violent by throwing the guitar, but Noel ultimately destroyed it. So they are both sort of guilty in the situation... If that story is true then Liam is more at fault than Noel. Liam threw a freaking guitar at his brother. All Noel supposedly did was step on it. Big deal. Him stepping on the guitar was of no threat to Liam.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 19:11:47 GMT -5
in 2009 music is dead. Oasis live forever. music is far from dead. there are great bands out there. keep your ears and mind open, and you'll be surprised at how good some new bands are. wise words nyr
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Post by loveramusica88yenn on Oct 10, 2009 22:30:58 GMT -5
If you read the interview on the site itself, you might have noticed that little bit at the end where he said "people can will buy his records, people will buy OURS"... Cant that possibly mean that Oasis, the band with both gallaghers but a new band that has chris, andy, gem and Liam together will continue?
Thats what i thought at first, a new band that isnt named OASIS but something else. i donno, just a thought really
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Post by seteluas on Oct 11, 2009 6:03:46 GMT -5
that's what I meant...he should be careful saying things like that! Either be careful or make the official statement FFS...this is only helping to create confusion...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2009 7:15:19 GMT -5
If you read the interview on the site itself, you might have noticed that little bit at the end where he said "people can will buy his records, people will buy OURS"... Cant that possibly mean that Oasis, the band with both gallaghers but a new band that has chris, andy, gem and Liam together will continue? Thats what i thought at first, a new band that isnt named OASIS but something else. i donno, just a thought really I think its quite obvious that he would be in a new band.
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Post by dannybhoy19 on Oct 11, 2009 9:42:47 GMT -5
Right, Don't Believe The Truth...the album was named due to people listening to media bullshit.....if you haven't noticed the writing, its very negative and slagging Liam off left right and centre and trying to make it sound as if Liam is slagging off Noel. Therefore, Don't Believe The Truth, because this guy has twisted the interview...a lot. Exactly Geezer spot on.I will say though that Liam saying 'fuck em' about People who wont like Pretty Green Clothing etc is a bit of a suicidal thing to say because with that attitude He isn't exactlyy winning anyone over. Ok I know He mentioned He does same with Music but Oasis was not just about Him I never listened for His vocals but Noel's amazing songwriting and guitar solos. If Liam goes solo I will probably buy His Album out of interest but regarding Noel Im buying it because I know there's plenty of good songs left in Him.
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Post by jostep on Oct 14, 2009 5:06:23 GMT -5
good 4 Noel,innit?
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Post by digsyssupper on Oct 16, 2009 11:38:05 GMT -5
Kimori1024, im guessing you drew it, great drawing that is love it.
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Post by kimori1024 on Oct 19, 2009 4:02:04 GMT -5
Kimori1024, im guessing you drew it, great drawing that is love it. Thanks so much! Glad you like it! There's a load more of my Oasis drawings here if you'd be interested ~ kimori1024.deviantart.com/
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Post by Rita on Oct 19, 2009 13:37:00 GMT -5
Kimori1024, im guessing you drew it, great drawing that is love it. Thanks so much! Glad you like it! There's a load more of my Oasis drawings here if you'd be interested ~ kimori1024.deviantart.com/You are really amazing Kimori Keep up the great job !
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2009 17:30:58 GMT -5
What would you rather? That they had changed the setlist for EVERY single gig? I am sick to death with people complaining that they never changed their setlist.....but what do you expect? There isnt just you there is there? They should definitely add some different songs here and there to the setlist. I remember a couple of years ago I went and saw Collective Soul. They wound up coming back to my area only a couple months later during the same tour. I asked my brother whether or not we should buy tickets, and he said we should since they were incredible live. I was a little timid because I figured they would play the same songs in the same order, etc. They played 5 different songs when we saw them the second time, and the setlist was definitely changed around. The only thing they repeated was the closing song ('Shine'). There is no excuse for Oasis to not do this. They never throw in any surprises. They played MBM for a little while and then cut it. Why can't we get Columbia? Girl in the Dirty Shirt? It's Getting Better Man? Where did it All Go Wrong? Don't Go Away? Underneath the Sky? Listen Up? Or any other song that is different then the typical. There is absolutely no excuse for it . . . Yep! thats the point. There are a lot of bands that surprise their own fans with different songs on the setlist.
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Post by henrod89 on Oct 19, 2009 22:03:55 GMT -5
They should definitely add some different songs here and there to the setlist. I remember a couple of years ago I went and saw Collective Soul. They wound up coming back to my area only a couple months later during the same tour. I asked my brother whether or not we should buy tickets, and he said we should since they were incredible live. I was a little timid because I figured they would play the same songs in the same order, etc. They played 5 different songs when we saw them the second time, and the setlist was definitely changed around. The only thing they repeated was the closing song ('Shine'). There is no excuse for Oasis to not do this. They never throw in any surprises. They played MBM for a little while and then cut it. Why can't we get Columbia? Girl in the Dirty Shirt? It's Getting Better Man? Where did it All Go Wrong? Don't Go Away? Underneath the Sky? Listen Up? Or any other song that is different then the typical. There is absolutely no excuse for it . . . Yep! thats the point. There are a lot of bands that surprise their own fans with different songs on the setlist.Yep. There is no excuse. They have a lot of good/great songs. They just do the same set-list every tour. Annoying . . .
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