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Post by thegear on Sept 16, 2009 20:22:13 GMT -5
He has that freedom now. He can rest his voice for a while, write some songs Oasis-newstyle with Gem and Andy. I can see a new album end 2010.. with or without Noel ... What d'ya think? Could this be very possible? Oasis new style? i think you'll find anything they write from now on would be oasis -new -style... The guys are talented but i'm sure they don't sit around thinking they will re invent the oasis wheel, wasn't that what got oasis into trouble in the first place eg: SOTSOG The guys won't be making any decisions on the band until the early next year I reckon, they are hardly going to make a move on the band Noel-less until it is clear that there is no going back. The same as with a lot of bands, it will probably take Noel solo over the next couple of years to really make his mind up- it will either have any effect of putting water under the bridge and thus a subsequent reformation, or make him realize 'wow i should of broke the band up in '99'.
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Post by start at the end on Sept 17, 2009 7:33:27 GMT -5
good god, give me a break. we've already heard the last "noel-less" oasis album. It's call Dig Out Your Soul, Tracks 8-11. The absolute WORST 4 song stretch in their entire catalog. You can have 10-12 tunes on an album by the same 3 anyday. Fact is TUTS, ABWR, and TBWTF were small gems because the band were able to pluck ONE song from each as a stop-gap. Now you want 3, 4, or FIVE from each...on ONE album?!!! LMFAO! some of you people are fucking delusional- there is no Oasis without Noel Gallagher. change the fucking name of the band and at least somewhat spare the legacy. Give me a break man, let them put out something before you judge them. It might be shit, it might not but we don't know yet. Liam started the band he's more than entitled to carry on with it. They already have "put something out" its called about a dozen songs over the last three albums, and they ranged from total shit to "just" good. aint got nothin' anyone? lol! 12 in this range would make a mockery of an LP. And, BTW, Liam can absolutely carry on...it'll just be garbage without Noel.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 17, 2009 10:07:14 GMT -5
Give me a break man, let them put out something before you judge them. It might be shit, it might not but we don't know yet. Liam started the band he's more than entitled to carry on with it. They already have "put something out" its called about a dozen songs over the last three albums, and they ranged from total shit to "just" good. aint got nothin' anyone? lol! 12 in this range would make a mockery of an LP. And, BTW, Liam can absolutely carry on...it'll just be garbage without Noel. Basically you don't really know what it will sound like and I don't either, we'll just have to wait and see. It might be shit, it might not. I think you've been pretty unfair on their songwriting though, Liam's album tracks have mostly been good. I would laugh if they put out a half decent album and Noel put out some dull dad-rock, which is also a real possibillity.
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Post by start at the end on Sept 17, 2009 11:11:51 GMT -5
born on a different cloud...good? betterman...good? little james...good? ain't got nothin...good? soldier on...good? GGTIA...good? meaning of soul...see ain't got nothin- bit improved
songbird, LLAB, and Outta Time, I'll give you. The above though, are abysmal to barely ok.
ask 100 people how they feel about the ten above songs overall and inform me of their reverence for liam's songwriting abilities.
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Post by start at the end on Sept 17, 2009 11:13:11 GMT -5
and of of course no one knows that the next album will be like, EXACTLY. We can however, make reasonable assumptions based upon what's come before...ESPECIALLY with this band.
And if there ever is a noel-less oasis album (which I seriously doubt) there's no question it will be "rockier" than noel's solo work.
42 year-olds that go solo generally don't write songs like they're 21 again- or like they're still in a "rock band" for that matter.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 17, 2009 11:27:39 GMT -5
born on a different cloud...good? betterman...good? little james...good? ain't got nothin...good? soldier on...good? GGTIA...good? meaning of soul...see ain't got nothin- bit improved songbird, LLAB, and Outta Time, I'll give you. The above though, are abysmal to barely ok. ask 100 people how they feel about the ten above songs overall and inform me of their reverence for liam's songwriting abilities. The only song i'd describe as abysmal is AGN, i dont rate Outta Time that highly but GGTIA is great.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Sept 17, 2009 11:33:25 GMT -5
and of of course no one knows that the next album will be like, EXACTLY. We can however, make reasonable assumptions based upon what's come before...ESPECIALLY with this band. And if there ever is a noel-less oasis album (which I seriously doubt) there's no question it will be "rockier" than noel's solo work. 42 year-olds that go solo generally don't write songs like they're 21 again- or like they're still in a "rock band" for that matter. I don't think you can apply that 'ESPECIALLY' to Oasis, since the man who has controlled the output of every album has now left. I would never think or expect Noel to write like he was 21 again, there would still be no excuse for some bland Dad rock which is as possible as Liam and co putting out some shit. Why don't you think they'll be a Noel-less album?
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Post by seteluas on Sept 17, 2009 12:52:32 GMT -5
There's also a strong possibility that Noel's solo will be kickass and Lam-Andy-Gem absolutely bland...and these odds are quite higher than the other way around...have a good listen at DOYS... I agree with start at the end, but i also prefer GGTIA to IOT
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Sept 18, 2009 1:24:46 GMT -5
Okay I understand that some people are getting all hyped up because Liam has written Songbird and I'm Outta Time and stuff, but the faact is if they have a 12 song album who will write most of the songs even if they split it 3 ways between Andy, Gem, and Liam its still a tall order. Its much easier to write great songs when you are only expect to have two or three on there at most. Its also easier to experiment when you know you have a songwriter like Noel who will always give you 5-7 solid tunes. Also Noel doesn't really need Oasis. When you think about it how many artist over the years have said they want Noel on their album whether singing, writing, or producing, also Noel doesn't need the money. If Noel returns to Oasis it will be because he loves it. Liam will probably release something by the end of 2010. Will it be any better than DOYS probably not, but remember Waiting For The Rapture, Falling Down, bag it Up, The Turning and TSOTL were all Noels' tunes take away them and what's DOYS . yep, whaty's DOYS without Noel? Dog shit.
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Post by Shakermaker on Sept 23, 2009 5:09:53 GMT -5
He has that freedom now. He can rest his voice for a while, write some songs Oasis-newstyle with Gem and Andy. I can see a new album end 2010.. with or without Noel ... What d'ya think? Could this be very possible? Oasis new style? i think you'll find anything they write from now on would be oasis -new -style... The guys are talented but i'm sure they don't sit around thinking they will re invent the oasis wheel, wasn't that what got oasis into trouble in the first place eg: SOTSOG The guys won't be making any decisions on the band until the early next year I reckon, they are hardly going to make a move on the band Noel-less until it is clear that there is no going back. The same as with a lot of bands, it will probably take Noel solo over the next couple of years to really make his mind up- it will either have any effect of putting water under the bridge and thus a subsequent reformation, or make him realize 'wow i should of broke the band up in '99'. Well, You cannot say it's just Oasis like always... it's a Noel-less Oasis, so Oasis-newstyle... They could miss Bonehead & co as we have seen, but Oasis stayed Oasis... cos Noel and Liam stayed in. Now Noel walked out, and Liam want to continue ... so in my eyes that will be a new Oasis ... so Oasis new-style.... By the way, what's wrong with SOTSOG? What trouble? They had new bandmates, and tried something else for a chance. Some old fans didn't like it, but it also brought new fans ... nothing wrong with it ... what trouble? I can not see any trouble .... it wasn't DM or MG offcourse.... it just was SOTSOG ... I´m sorry mate... but i just don´t get your point yet ...
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Post by Shakermaker on Sept 23, 2009 6:12:19 GMT -5
Okay I understand that some people are getting all hyped up because Liam has written Songbird and I'm Outta Time and stuff, but the faact is if they have a 12 song album who will write most of the songs even if they split it 3 ways between Andy, Gem, and Liam its still a tall order. Its much easier to write great songs when you are only expect to have two or three on there at most. Its also easier to experiment when you know you have a songwriter like Noel who will always give you 5-7 solid tunes. Also Noel doesn't really need Oasis. When you think about it how many artist over the years have said they want Noel on their album whether singing, writing, or producing, also Noel doesn't need the money. If Noel returns to Oasis it will be because he loves it. Liam will probably release something by the end of 2010. Will it be any better than DOYS probably not, but remember Waiting For The Rapture, Falling Down, bag it Up, The Turning and TSOTL were all Noels' tunes take away them and what's DOYS . yep, whaty's DOYS without Noel? Dog shit. Don´t forget it´s mostly Noel who did the traklisting for the albums by the way... not Liam ... Maybe Liam is able to make an album better as a whole ... as we talk about the tracklist ... with or without shitsongs .. who knows ..
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Post by kingsofglory on Sept 23, 2009 23:06:27 GMT -5
oasis could do a 10 song album without noel. One of those songs could be a cover. Also the guitarist that replaces noel may have some song writing ability.
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