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Post by Ferret on Jul 30, 2009 16:57:04 GMT -5
I'd say the first noticable change in Liam's voice was around halfway through the Definitely Maybe Tour. He lost the ability to sing in falsetto and this was the first time Noel got a mic. Around this time he also started occasionally going flat and his voice overall got rawer and a bit "whinier", although it still sounded great. This is pretty much how it was until about 1998, although it got rawer and deeper as the years went on. We should also note that he only ever sang all the high notes of Slide Away at one recorded gig, and he started cutting the notes short on Wonderwall's chorus very early on.
He started out the SOTSOG Tour sounding good. He sounded older and a bit rougher, but he did some very good vocals around this period. Sadly, the pressures of touring pretty much destroyed his voice and he was sounding pretty bad, in my opinion, around the time of Familiar To Millions. His voice sounded so strained it was unbelievable. Sadly, this trent didn't disappear.
The American gigs in 2001 had some decent vocals, though not up to the standard of the early SOTSOG dates. Sadly, by the time they got to Britain, Liam had anhialated his voice, pretty much, and it was around this time he started cutting lots of notes short and slurring words. At the start of the Heathen Chemistry Tour Liam was on fire, sounding almost as good as in early 2000. Sadly this didn't last, and his voice was already fucked by the time of the Finsbury Park gigs. Although it wasn't that bad at that point, it got much worse as the tour went on.
Gigs in 2003 were just as bad, if not worse, and Glastonbury 2004 was cringeworthy. At that gig Liam sang out of tune more than usual. Before he'd often sang badly, but rarely out of tune. 2005 was a fucking disaster, his worse vocals ever. As usual he started the tour alright, That Milan gig sounded good, but his vocals went to shit very early on in the tour and rarely improved. 2006 was the zenith of Liam's apalling vocals. Most of the gigs from that tour are absolutely unlistenable, especially the infamous Campo De Polo gig. He was absolutely fucking dreadful in his sole appearance of 2007, at the Brit Awards. So bad, in fact, that Noel apparently had to have a word with him about his voice.
In 2008 reports came that Liam had started caring for his voice. He'd apparently given up smoking and started jogging to improve his singing. He'd always claimed to like his modern voice, but he must have realised something had gone wrong. After the secret gig that Oasis played in London, lots of fans wrote about how good Liam was singing. They were saying he sounded as good as in 2000/2001, which of course, was vastly better than nearly everything else after that. Sadly, he couldn't keep this up on the Canadian Tour, and fans were very dissapointed. He was alright, however. When the band hit the UK Liam's voice was much better. He was nailing Slide Away and I'm Outta Time nightly, and even the one time they played My Big Mouth. He was pretty bad again for around half the UK Tour, though, such as the broadcast Wembley gig. They did some European gigs after this. One was brilliant, the other two were a bit shit. The US Tour was even worse, although thankfully not as bad as 2005/06. Thank god that Liam was back on form for the European Tour, and he's been top ever since. He's been putting more emphasis into the different notes, and singing rather than shouting with attitude.
That's my review of his changing voice!
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Post by J.B on Jul 31, 2009 8:49:32 GMT -5
liams voice was shit for three quarters of the DOYS heaton park was wen he reli got his voice back and everyone was reli excited bout it hes kept that up for all the summer gigs
i reckon hes had some sort of treatment after im outta time in berlin to sort himself out hopefully he will keep this voice for the next tour as i think this is nearly as good as his 2000 voice which is the best we can hope for he will never get his BHN voice back which is where i think it was at its peak
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Post by RocketMan on Jul 31, 2009 9:00:34 GMT -5
no. the voice at heaton park was just like every gig before. through the speakers it always sounds good. if there's a soundboard recording of the heaton park gigs you can hear his voice isn't better than the other concerts on the tour.
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Post by idledreamer on Jul 31, 2009 9:12:11 GMT -5
london rehersal gig august 08 = the very best liam can possibly sound from now on
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Post by supersonic8587 on Jul 31, 2009 11:13:49 GMT -5
I really think Werchter is the best he's sounded this tour and the best he's sounded in years.
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Post by vespa on Jul 31, 2009 11:24:33 GMT -5
hes still got it youll just never hear him like 95 era again,hes older an his vocals are strained simple as that,hes still got it when he wants it,the stance is a major factor in it tho,when he goes back to the old stance hes fine ,but he cant do that for the whole tour anymore,wouldnt suprise that on there next world tour they do bigger gigs to cut back on the whole small arenas in each town which usually puts them over the 100 gigs a tour
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Post by Strangers on Jul 31, 2009 15:27:18 GMT -5
Hey Ferret, u forgot The best leg of this tour. South America
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Post by Ferret on Jul 31, 2009 18:56:04 GMT -5
Hey Ferret, u forgot The best leg of this tour. South America Oh yeah, definitely, that was great. Loved listening to the radio broadcasts.
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Post by wc23 on Jul 31, 2009 20:44:26 GMT -5
I think G-mex 97 was his best vocal peformance - the range and power sounds just amazing. The worst I've heard him sing was at the Hurricane Festival in 2005 or 2006. Mind you, I've never heard him sing in person...
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 31, 2009 21:00:10 GMT -5
You don't really notice it in person unless you're looking for it. Which most people aren't.
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Post by oasis6 on Jul 31, 2009 21:58:55 GMT -5
I'd say the first noticable change in Liam's voice was around halfway through the Definitely Maybe Tour. He lost the ability to sing in falsetto and this was the first time Noel got a mic. Around this time he also started occasionally going flat and his voice overall got rawer and a bit "whinier", although it still sounded great. This is pretty much how it was until about 1998, although it got rawer and deeper as the years went on. We should also note that he only ever sang all the high notes of Slide Away at one recorded gig, and he started cutting the notes short on Wonderwall's chorus very early on. He started out the SOTSOG Tour sounding good. He sounded older and a bit rougher, but he did some very good vocals around this period. Sadly, the pressures of touring pretty much destroyed his voice and he was sounding pretty bad, in my opinion, around the time of Familiar To Millions. His voice sounded so strained it was unbelievable. Sadly, this trent didn't disappear. The American gigs in 2001 had some decent vocals, though not up to the standard of the early SOTSOG dates. Sadly, by the time they got to Britain, Liam had anhialated his voice, pretty much, and it was around this time he started cutting lots of notes short and slurring words. At the start of the Heathen Chemistry Tour Liam was on fire, sounding almost as good as in early 2000. Sadly this didn't last, and his voice was already fucked by the time of the Finsbury Park gigs. Although it wasn't that bad at that point, it got much worse as the tour went on. Gigs in 2003 were just as bad, if not worse, and Glastonbury 2004 was cringeworthy. At that gig Liam sang out of tune more than usual. Before he'd often sang badly, but rarely out of tune. 2005 was a fucking disaster, his worse vocals ever. As usual he started the tour alright, That Milan gig sounded good, but his vocals went to shit very early on in the tour and rarely improved. 2006 was the zenith of Liam's apalling vocals. Most of the gigs from that tour are absolutely unlistenable, especially the infamous Campo De Polo gig. He was absolutely fucking dreadful in his sole appearance of 2007, at the Brit Awards. So bad, in fact, that Noel apparently had to have a word with him about his voice. In 2008 reports came that Liam had started caring for his voice. He'd apparently given up smoking and started jogging to improve his singing. He'd always claimed to like his modern voice, but he must have realised something had gone wrong. After the secret gig that Oasis played in London, lots of fans wrote about how good Liam was singing. They were saying he sounded as good as in 2000/2001, which of course, was vastly better than nearly everything else after that. Sadly, he couldn't keep this up on the Canadian Tour, and fans were very dissapointed. He was alright, however. When the band hit the UK Liam's voice was much better. He was nailing Slide Away and I'm Outta Time nightly, and even the one time they played My Big Mouth. He was pretty bad again for around half the UK Tour, though, such as the broadcast Wembley gig. They did some European gigs after this. One was brilliant, the other two were a bit shit. The US Tour was even worse, although thankfully not as bad as 2005/06. Thank god that Liam was back on form for the European Tour, and he's been top ever since. He's been putting more emphasis into the different notes, and singing rather than shouting with attitude. That's my review of his changing voice! Is there audio of that slide away performance?
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Post by Marcos on Jul 31, 2009 23:34:08 GMT -5
i don't know if ayone agrees with me but Liam is sounding better in 2009 than he sounded in 2008.. just listen some bootlegs!
he definitely did something about his voice after that little episode in Berlim
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Post by idledreamer on Aug 1, 2009 1:51:39 GMT -5
well i still think that the 08 rehersal, and maybe 08 copenhagen,, is better over anything from 09... sure 09 we have had some nice performances (such as roskilde... and rock w... and i-tunes...) but for example if u listen closely to 'i'm outta time' from the 08 rehersal (listen to it in headphones) u will notice how clean his vocals are... i.m.o. there will never be a better live performance of that song... now, liam does a pretty good job most of the time on that tune but always with a little gravel when he holds the notes... but if u listen closer to london 08 rehersal there was no gravel, it was nice and clean ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by Marcos on Aug 1, 2009 9:01:28 GMT -5
to me it's kinda obvious why he sounded brilliant in that rehearsal gig their last concert was on March 31st 2006 and then they had that Brits performance in 2007 when Liam sang 4 songs, so that doesn't really count
what i mean is that his voice was resting for more than 2 years by the time of the rehearsal considering the quantity of gigs and that we are by the end of the tour now, he's doing more than a satisfactory job with his voice in my opinion
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Post by maxkl on Aug 1, 2009 10:47:53 GMT -5
to me it's kinda obvious why he sounded brilliant in that rehearsal gig their last concert was on March 31st 2006 and then they had that Brits performance in 2007 when Liam sang 4 songs, so that doesn't really count what i mean is that his voice was resting for more than 2 years by the time of the rehearsal considering the quantity of gigs and that we are by the end of the tour now, he's doing more than a satisfactory job with his voice in my opinion Whilst I see what you're getting at, I don't think recording an album can be considered "resting". ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Marcos on Aug 1, 2009 10:59:49 GMT -5
^right, there were the recordings of DOYS but come on, singing in the studio is not like singing live
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Post by maxkl on Aug 1, 2009 12:57:42 GMT -5
Oh hey I agree with you absolutely. Just putting out that he wasn't exactly "resting". ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Headmaster on Aug 1, 2009 15:53:06 GMT -5
The worst Liam's voice I've heard was at that 07 brit awards, Glasto 04 is good in comparison.
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Post by thedon on Aug 2, 2009 10:41:54 GMT -5
Trying to pinpoint when it turned to shit here; I'm listening to a Tokyo gig from September 2002 and it's not particularly pleasant, sounding a bit Kermitty and struggling a lot on songs like Morning Glory. I always thought he was fine for all of 2002 but it seems like that's when the rot set in: late 2002.
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Post by Underneath the sky on Aug 2, 2009 11:52:14 GMT -5
Trying to pinpoint when it turned to shit here; I'm listening to a Tokyo gig from September 2002 and it's not particularly pleasant, sounding a bit Kermitty and struggling a lot on songs like Morning Glory. I always thought he was fine for all of 2002 but it seems like that's when the rot set in: late 2002. I'd say late 2001, he sounded fucking awful at Glasgow Barrowlands and towards the end of that tour.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 2, 2009 22:18:42 GMT -5
I hear many changes in his voices in these years:
1994 to 1995 1997 2000 2002 2004/2005 2009
I think every single year listed there represents a different vocal style....weird how much and often it changes!
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 2, 2009 22:22:19 GMT -5
Oh and I still think iTunes festival the other week was his best vocals for several several years......On top form there
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Post by forestfan on Aug 3, 2009 1:59:09 GMT -5
Oh and I still think iTunes festival the other week was his best vocals for several several years......On top form there and rock werchter
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Post by Underneath the sky on Aug 3, 2009 3:06:37 GMT -5
Oh and I still think iTunes festival the other week was his best vocals for several several years......On top form there Agreed, Slide Away from that gig is for me the best version this decade.
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Post by northernstar2008 on Aug 3, 2009 8:05:34 GMT -5
We all know his voice was amazing in the 90's so i'm gonna start from 2000...
2000 - His most 'rock n roll voice', he had developed that gritty-ness to his voice but could also sing nice and clean (Jools Holland, Brussels etc). He sounded brilliant at Pinkpop, especially on Cigarettes and Alcohol.
2001 - They did Rock In Rio and the 5 week tour in America, but the set was cut in half meaning Liam sang like, what, 7 songs a night? His voice was more clean sounding than in 2000, but he developed the need to breath mid-line which can be heard in the Barrowlands gig, especially on Slide Away and the 'chasing the sun' line where he cuts suddenly and backs away from the mic. Still sounding great tho', sounded top on all the other songs during that gig.
2002/2003 - His voice changed here for sure, the biggest change so far. He sounded more like he did in 2000 but more raspy and gritty and infact, i've only heard two gigs where his voice sounds clean, Lyon and Rome plus the small set they did on CD:UK. Sounded raspy in 2003 too, especially on Songbird on TOTP. Still sounds great though.
2004 - They hadn't played a gig in over a year, new album being recorded, new drummer, Liam and Noel had a falling out, probably the reason for his out of tune raspy, breathless vocals. Must of been straining his voice and smoking alot in the year prior.
2005 - Had a clean voice for the first time since 2001, sounded breathless tho' towards the end of lines in some songs (Lyla). Had the odd voice blip mid-song but most singers get that.
2006 - The less I say about this year, the better. Even Liam must know he sounded fucking horrible. Noel probably sat him down after the Brits in 2007 and showed him the Brits gig and the Argentina gig from 2006 and said 'Sort your voice out, for the sake of the band'
2007 - Hadn't sang in a year, his voice had been horrible the year before, couldn't really expect him to be singing brilliantly again. Sounded good in some parts though, so not all bad.
2008 - Beginning to sound great again, had the odd blip where he sounded raspy and breathless but the cut back on cigs and booze, the re-developed stance and the jogging were beginning to work.
2009 - Haven't heard a bad gig this year, he's been fucking brilliant throughout the whole year, especially the summer tour. Highlight is easily iTunes festival with Melt and Rock W sounding great too. He's been on top form and if he keeps on jogging and cutting back on cigs and booze, by the next tour in 2011 he'll be back to sounding nice and clean with that added bit of grittyness and rock n roll like he did in 2000.
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