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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 16, 2009 21:29:13 GMT -5
This is quality. I prefer it to the album version if I'm being honest
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Post by oasis6 on Jul 16, 2009 21:35:14 GMT -5
I prefer it as well, I bet they chose the album version so they could have a more upbeat 1st single as they always do.
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Post by Cast on Jul 16, 2009 22:47:34 GMT -5
the demo is just great. The album version is alright. The demo is one of those heavy noel tracks that just works.
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Post by mkoasis on Jul 17, 2009 2:23:28 GMT -5
I think I'm in the minority here..I don't like the demo as much. That drum loop intro sounds a little cheesy 80s or something, i dont know, but i feel the song is much better upbeat. the energy and excitement from the first live versions still gets me going. i remember writing a math test the day after the first bootleg leaked and feeling so invincible...then i got a 68% on the test. I usually get 80 or more lol.
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Post by seanzie on Jul 17, 2009 6:06:09 GMT -5
Never really have given it a proper listen before, but it is better than the album version.
Not saying much for me, though. I've never been a fan of Hindu Times.
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Post by matt on Jul 17, 2009 13:16:44 GMT -5
When I first heard the demo version, I thought it was excellent, but the more listens I gave to it the more I became bored with it.
I listened to The Hindu Times for the first time in ages a couple of nights ago, and I thought 'yeah, they did the right choice'.
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Post by Level 03 on Jul 17, 2009 13:39:47 GMT -5
It's juste fuking awesome. It's like a powerfull live version.
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Post by Soldier Ron on Jul 17, 2009 14:29:39 GMT -5
When the demo version came out in 2002 I presumed that Noel was looking to keep up the electronica experimentation from the SOTSOG era/songs, just imagine a whole album of songs which sounded as crushingly monstrous, layered and intricate as the production on this track, would have been amazing.
Instead he chose to dumb it down for the pub-rock snoozer it became on Heathen Chemistry, and of course we all know what a disappointment the album turned out to be. His harmonies on "raaaiiinnn" in this version are sublime, yeh, I know it's The Beatles' Rain, but it's also a Noel Gallagher masterpiece.
The original lyrics - which seem to be an attack on a heavy drug user ('why d'you get so high, you just can't feel it') - Noel had just divorced from his first wife and the press were reporting that Noel wanted to quit the party lifestyle and lead a quieter life, Noel said in an interview about their separation around the period that Meg was 'like Ozzy Osbourne' while he was starting to turn into Donovan, I always thought that the original lyrics probably reflected this ('the ghost that is your soul it leaves me cold babe').
Funnily enough, on one of the 10 minute Brotherly Love tour documentaries, filmed in mid-2001 but released on the Heathen Chemistry singles, Liam goes absolutely mad for the demo version when they play it on the tour bus.
Fast forward to 6.30
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jul 17, 2009 14:56:40 GMT -5
It's too slow and I don't like the lyrics as much, but I like the production.
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Post by matt on Jul 17, 2009 15:13:00 GMT -5
As Soldier On said, it would of been great if that sonic experimentation continued rather than resorting to pub rock, but like joeyfrancis says, it's too slow. I like some of the lyrics but in its rockier form it's much more suited I think.
Saying that, when they made it much rockier, they should have kept the standards high for the rest of the album, which it obviously did not.
I so wish Heathen Chemistry was more of a direct sequel to Standing On The Shoulders Of Giants.
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Post by putthisin ® on Jul 17, 2009 15:29:45 GMT -5
I would kill for that cd at 7.10 Can anyone read the song names?
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Post by seanzie on Jul 17, 2009 15:54:31 GMT -5
I would kill for that cd at 7.10 Can anyone read the song names? I might be mistaken, but I think it's just the Heathen Chemistry Demo/Instrumentals.
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Post by Headmaster on Jul 18, 2009 10:01:42 GMT -5
When the demo version came out in 2002 I presumed that Noel was looking to keep up the electronica experimentation from the SOTSOG era/songs, just imagine a whole album of songs which sounded as crushingly monstrous, layered and intricate as the production on this track, would have been amazing. Instead he chose to dumb it down for the pub-rock snoozer it became on Heathen Chemistry, and of course we all know what a disappointment the album turned out to be. This ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I so wish Heathen Chemistry was more of a direct sequel to Standing On The Shoulders Of Giants. Me too.
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Jul 18, 2009 11:33:28 GMT -5
Well, I don't want to get into a debate about HC, but I will say that the albums version of the Hindu Times is fucking mental and is what Oasis is all about. It COULD have been better mixed and mastered, but it is still hammering and I love it. The lyrics for the demo are not very good and Noel's vocal pales in comparison to Liam's sneer on the album version.
The Hindu Times is one of the favourite Oasis songs.... probably my number 2 or 3 behind Slide Away and I don't see why the demo is that enticing, other than:
A) it's new (different) B) it speaks to something less "HC" which seems to make every Oasis fan very happy.....
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