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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2009 5:48:37 GMT -5
Manchester United have confirmed that Carlos Tevez is leaving the club. United were willing to pay the £25.5m to turn the striker's two-year loan move into a permanent five-year deal but Tevez has decided to move on. "Disappointingly, his advisors informed the club that he does not wish to continue playing for Manchester United," read a United statement. "The club thanks Carlos for his services over the last two seasons and wishes him good luck for the future." news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8110740.stmdissapointing but not unexpected, i just hope he doesn't end up at one of our rivals
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Post by Superguiller. on Jun 20, 2009 5:54:41 GMT -5
He's all heart, but that's all he is. Never really liked him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2009 5:58:42 GMT -5
he's a great talent, i think he would be getting 25 plus league goals a season if he was a first choice striker. I don't blame him for moving on but leaving Manchester United often turns out to be a step in the wrong direction.
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Jun 20, 2009 9:24:42 GMT -5
he wasn't treated as he expected. I can understand he wants to leave
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Post by MG on Jun 21, 2009 10:58:26 GMT -5
Brilliant 2 years Carlos. Bye
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 22, 2009 4:21:29 GMT -5
I don't really understand what his problem is. United said all along that they were going to offer him a contract at the end of the season, and they did that. If anything, Tevez orchestrated his own departure by throwing his toys out of the pram and citing a lack of respect on United's part.
Oh well. Let's see if anyone still likes him when he moves to City.
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Post by eva on Jun 22, 2009 7:18:10 GMT -5
not all players care about being in a big team and earning big money. some of them want to play as well. I'm guessing if you're in a team heating a bench you can only take so much of it. it's quite logic to want to move on to another one where you can actually play.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 22, 2009 7:55:29 GMT -5
I'm guessing if you're in a team heating a bench you can only take so much of it. it's quite logic to want to move on to another one where you can actually play. He was given his fair share of opportunities in big games; the rotation policy is a small price to pay for the privilege of being at a club like Manchester United and challenging consistently for trophies. Even so, only six players made more league appearances than Tevez last season, so he can hardly complain that he wasn't given chance to prove himself. Ultimately, I doubt he'll receive guaranteed first-team football without taking a downward step.
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Jun 22, 2009 8:57:12 GMT -5
yes, the world ends in Old Trafford
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 22, 2009 10:17:22 GMT -5
yes, the world ends in Old Trafford That wasn't really my point. Still, it's fair to say that we're one of the world's biggest clubs, that the vast majority of players would consider it a privilege to play for us, and that Tevez wouldn't be guaranteed first-team football at a team like Barcelona any more than he would at United, and therefore needs to take a downward step in order to play game-in, game-out. But presumably you disagree?
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Post by eva on Jun 22, 2009 10:19:20 GMT -5
I'm guessing if you're in a team heating a bench you can only take so much of it. it's quite logic to want to move on to another one where you can actually play. He was given his fair share of opportunities in big games; the rotation policy is a small price to pay for the privilege of being at a club like Manchester United and challenging consistently for trophies. Even so, only six players made more league appearances than Tevez last season, so he can hardly complain that he wasn't given chance to prove himself. Ultimately, I doubt he'll receive guaranteed first-team football without taking a downward step. no, he hasn't. the few times he played from the start, he was always the first choice to be replaced, even thought when he was playing well. the fact that such a bland player as Berbatov can be over Tevez is beyond me. he's better off in a team where he's really appreciated.
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Post by Billy Davey ツ on Jun 22, 2009 17:21:01 GMT -5
He was given his fair share of opportunities in big games; the rotation policy is a small price to pay for the privilege of being at a club like Manchester United and challenging consistently for trophies. Even so, only six players made more league appearances than Tevez last season, so he can hardly complain that he wasn't given chance to prove himself. Ultimately, I doubt he'll receive guaranteed first-team football without taking a downward step. no, he hasn't. the few times he played from the start, he was always the first choice to be replaced, even thought when he was playing well. the fact that such a bland player as Berbatov can be over Tevez is beyond me. he's better off in a team where he's really appreciated. I agree with Eva. he hasn't got the respect he deserved earnt in the field. he's been a second dish. big players want to play. those who think "hey, it's ok, I don't mind being in the bench after all" are mercenaries.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 23, 2009 4:57:56 GMT -5
no, he hasn't. the few times he played from the start, he was always the first choice to be replaced, even thought when he was playing well. the fact that such a bland player as Berbatov can be over Tevez is beyond me. he's better off in a team where he's really appreciated. That you think Berbatov is a bland player is beyond me. The man is sheer class. Tevez has his qualities, no question, but those qualities generally owe more to a defensive midfielder than they do a supposedly world-class centre forward. His workrate should not disguise the fact that last season, when he started games, he was largely ineffective as an attacking threat, and therefore correctly substituted. What should you do with a centre-forward who isn't scoring goals?
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Post by eva on Jun 23, 2009 7:00:38 GMT -5
qualities of a defensive midfield? WTF?! Are you looking at Park or something? if he's in the midfield it's because the ball doesn't get to him and he has to go get it himself. and that's not his job. What should I do with a centre-forward who isn't scoring goals? I, for once, would give him continuity and confidence. not 45 minutes every two weeks. when Torres first came to Liverpool he wasn't scoring like a maniac. People said he was overrated and that he wouldn't fit in the English football. but he proved them wrong. and that happens when a centre-forward plays, like Tevez in the previous season. he didn't get the respect nor the opportunities to prove it this last season, not like he has to prove anything anyways. like I said, he's better off somewhere else.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jun 23, 2009 7:44:17 GMT -5
qualities of a defensive midfield? WTF?! Workrate over creativity. I'm not talking about where he plays, I'm talking about how he plays. I'm not disputing that he can be a capable and threatening centre forward, but he was well off form for large periods of last season. He went for three months without a league goal at one stage, and scored only 4 goals in 22 starts. Make no mistake, he had opportunity to stake his claim for regular first-team football. And he played just as much football as Dimitar Berbatov, which to me was a fair reflection based on their individual contributions to the side. I don't blame him for wanting to play 90 minutes; I'd expect nothing less of a professional footballer. But if you're at a club like Manchester United you have to do a lot to earn that right, and last season Tevez's workrate simply did not make up for his lack of goals. You don't pay your centre forwards to run around a lot. You pay them to score goals, and create chances.
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Post by tezza202 on Jul 6, 2009 20:37:20 GMT -5
I'm not sure how entirely accurate this is, but apparently Tevez said
"What I want to do next season is score against United. I promise I will not celebrate in front of the United fans but I will shout in Ferguson’s face. You can be sure of that - and it will be one of the most beautiful things I have done in football.”
I think he could expect a slap in the face himself if he even thinks of doing it.
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Post by halftheworld on Jul 7, 2009 7:43:38 GMT -5
i think it's not only tevez being unhappy with his situation. i bet the private investors who own him are only too happy with a transfer cause they'll get a shitload of money.
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Post by eva on Jul 7, 2009 11:57:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure how entirely accurate this is, but apparently Tevez said "What I want to do next season is score against United. I promise I will not celebrate in front of the United fans but I will shout in Ferguson’s face. You can be sure of that - and it will be one of the most beautiful things I have done in football.” I think he could expect a slap in the face himself if he even thinks of doing it. that doesn't sound like something he would say where did you read it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2009 13:23:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure how entirely accurate this is, but apparently Tevez said "What I want to do next season is score against United. I promise I will not celebrate in front of the United fans but I will shout in Ferguson’s face. You can be sure of that - and it will be one of the most beautiful things I have done in football.” I think he could expect a slap in the face himself if he even thinks of doing it. that doesn't sound like something he would say where did you read it? i doubt he said it, but it made me laugh ;D
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