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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 18, 2014 3:53:31 GMT -5
My favourites are Something and Strawberry Fields Forever, on a shared first place.
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Post by Rain on Nov 18, 2014 4:02:03 GMT -5
My favourites are Something and Strawberry Fields Forever, on a shared first place. good choices. "Here Comes The Sun" number 2 for me
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Post by asimarx on Nov 18, 2014 21:11:54 GMT -5
My favourites are Something and Strawberry Fields Forever, on a shared first place. We're moving away from the original topic more and more but I gotta say I agree. Then again, there's always people randomly naming a Beatles song as their favorite song ever and you'd agree and think "Yeah, damn, I haven't considered this one." Next day, you put on Revolver and, no matter how long you haven't listened to it, your whole preconception of how "good" music is supposed to sound like, changes. So, for this moment in time "Here, There & Everywhere" is my fave Beatles/McCartney tune. Once it hits you without the context of the album, on your Ipod on Shuffle, it's even more overwhemingly beautiful. My dear, they were a good band, werent they?
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Post by The Crimson Rambler on Nov 20, 2014 5:27:08 GMT -5
Here's an interesting one... despite not achieving much.
After looking for more information hidden behind other lyric sheets I came across an annoyingly small image to the lyrics of 'The Mirror & The Razorblade' aka an early version of 'Morning Glory'. Behind it are clearly a single verse to a song + title, which I cannot match to any other lyric sheet we have available. Nothing is mentioned about these lyrics in the caption below it, however a Christies description of the auction in 1998 gives us a possible clue:Lot DescriptionNoel Gallagher/Oasis A rare and extensive collection of lyrics, songlists and album concepts in Noel Gallagher's hand representing Oasis' repertoire in circa 1993, autograph lyrics include:Whatever [different to released version]Shaker Maker [different to released version]All Around The World [different to released version]Stand By Me [completely different version to the hit single of that title]Mirror And The Razorblade [appears to be an alternate set of lyrics for the album track Morning Glory with only a few lines in common] Definatly (sic) Maybe [unreleased song using what was to become the title of their debut album although then it was spelt 'Definitely']-- a quantity of lyrics for songs on the band's first two LPs or on B-sides to their singles including: Rock 'N' Roll Star, Spaceman, Take Me Away, Rocking Chair, Half The World Away and Listen Up-- a quantity of lyrics for unreleased songs including: Chill, Song In A Suitcase, In Blue, Love, Lost Again, I Am Always Right and Is That A Fact-- a set of lyrics in Noel's hand for Bowie's hit Heroes-- four song lists, one including fifty-three titles, another including thirty-five titles, the lists including references to other artists and hits such as The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, The Faces and T. Rex, suggesting that Oasis were thinking of performing or covering some songs by these well-known artists -- several track listings suggesting concepts for albums and singles, one entitled 2nd album others listed as Single 1, Single 2 and Single 3 -- the majority of the material contained in a spiral bound Students Note Book, the cover decorated with two examples of printed Oasis artwork, designed by Tony French and used on the cover of their demo tapes recorded in Spring, 1993 (some pages loose) Note how for each item new lines are begun, however in the small paragraph talking about the 'Mirror & The Razorblade' sheet, it also mentions the song 'Definitely Maybe'. 'Definitely Maybe' is mentioned in the 1993 notebook, so is nothing new, however the fact that the song is singled out like other songs with lyrics available suggests it too has a side of paper dedicated to it with lyrics. So does this impossibly small and blurry image contain the lyrics to 'Definitely Maybe'? Very possible I believe:
Even my eyes aren't good enough to read that, but if anyone fancies a crack, go for it. Oh and if anyone owns or knows of a higher quality version (Not the one on Mr Monobrows site which is heavy edited) then please post it! Think I've solved it. Not 'Definitely Maybe' but the beautifully titled... 'Tracksuit Bottoms'. As we know, back in 1998, the NME reported on 'Noels Notebook' being up for sale and did a report on it. They included of many sheets including 'The Mirror & The Razorblade' (the sheet I'm looking at). They are also the only source I know of mentioning the lyrics to the song, 'Tracksuit Bottoms': "I've been watching you/You over there in your tracksuit bottoms/What's your problem with the world?"
Once I had the lyrics, the words were far easier to make out. Obviously there has been some guess work, as the image is so blurry, but the correlation is uncanny. So uncanny, I'd say I've just about solved it:
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Post by Here Comes The Sun King on Nov 21, 2014 10:08:41 GMT -5
D'You Know What I Mean - something said after the second 'i met my maker made him cry', i played it backwards it doesn't make sense. Loads of other backwards stuff in this aswell It's Noel saying "Yes you did!" Ahah thanks that makes more sense that my thought that it was 'Next new thing'!
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Post by Here Comes The Sun King on Nov 21, 2014 10:24:45 GMT -5
D'You Know What I Mean - something said after the second 'i met my maker made him cry', i played it backwards it doesn't make sense. Loads of other backwards stuff in this aswell It's Noel saying "Yes you did!"
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Post by scottc on Nov 21, 2014 10:37:39 GMT -5
In the verses of Stop Crying Your Heart Out, Liam never actually finishes the last word of each line. Seriously, listen to it.
"Hold ooooo- Hold ooooo- Don't be scare- You'll never change what's been and go- May your smiii- Shine oooo- Don't be scare- Your destiny may keep you war-"
Etc.
I'm talking about the single/album version here btw, not live.
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Post by davidjay on Nov 21, 2014 13:09:12 GMT -5
The mysterious, mantra-like chant heard in the demo of Columbia is created by looping a sampled phrase just 2.5 seconds long. On the Live Demonstration mix of Columbia the chant just repeats to the end of the track as it fades out, but on both the White Label demo and Eden mixes there's another phrase that gives the song a more emphatic ending. The closing phrase includes the vocalist singing four syllables followed by (what sounds to me like) "every night". Anyway, it sounds to me like the chant itself is partially constructed from the closing phrase. This became more apparent when I played the appropriate clips consecutively. I've put this in a FLAC file attached to this post. This contains: The last two sound almost identical to me, and they seem to both include the same blast of trebly percussion (cymbals perhaps?). This set me thinking that perhaps the original recording may not have featured a chant as such, but that the Real People helped to put one together by cutting up phrases sung in the source recording. If this is right, I think it could make it even more of a needle-in-haystack job to track down, heh. I have contacted some musicologists asking if they might be able to offer any clues as to the genre of this unidentified sample. They replied saying that the brevity of the sample and the reverb added to the vocal makes it very hard to pin down, but they did suggest that it sounded like a recording of traditional south Asian music (a broad category of course), and that the female vocal has some similarities to Tibetan folk music. So the mystery remains on that one... Elements of Columbia chant-3.flac (814.58 KB)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 17:50:09 GMT -5
The mysterious, mantra-like chant heard in the demo of Columbia is created by looping a sampled phrase just 2.5 seconds long. On the Live Demonstration mix of Columbia the chant just repeats to the end of the track as it fades out, but on both the White Label demo and Eden mixes there's another phrase that gives the song a more emphatic ending. The closing phrase includes the vocalist singing four syllables followed by (what sounds to me like) "every night". Anyway, it sounds to me like the chant itself is partially constructed from the closing phrase. This became more apparent when I played the appropriate clips consecutively. I've put this in a FLAC file attached to this post. This contains: The last two sound almost identical to me, and they seem to both include the same blast of trebly percussion (cymbals perhaps?). This set me thinking that perhaps the original recording may not have featured a chant as such, but that the Real People helped to put one together by cutting up phrases sung in the source recording. If this is right, I think it could make it even more of a needle-in-haystack job to track down, heh. I have contacted some musicologists asking if they might be able to offer any clues as to the genre of this unidentified sample. They replied saying that the brevity of the sample and the reverb added to the vocal makes it very hard to pin down, but they did suggest that it sounded like a recording of traditional south Asian music (a broad category of course), and that the female vocal has some similarities to Tibetan folk music. So the mystery remains on that one... View AttachmentYou just made my day davidjay.
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Post by davidjay on Nov 25, 2014 5:18:26 GMT -5
This has probably been mentioned before but I don't recall having seen it talked about in a while. At the start of Cigarettes and Alcohol you can hear someone sing "aaaahhh" faintly, just after the whistle and before the riff kicks in ... always wondered who it was. Probably Noel, but it also reminds me a bit of Tony Griffiths' backing vocals on Supersonic.
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Post by themanwithnoname on Nov 25, 2014 7:34:58 GMT -5
In DYKWIM, the series of bleeps that follows the line "Don't look back 'cos you know what you might see" is B.U.G.G.E.R A.L.L being spelt out in morse code by Mark Coyle.
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Post by davidjay on Nov 25, 2014 8:23:18 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that themanwithnoname, always wondered about that! Here's one I don't recall being mentioned. Caro Emerald's 2009 hit single A Night Like This is based around what sound to me like the same Mellotron sample to that heard in the outro of Magic Pie. I've attached an mp3 comparing the two. Now, must get back to work Magic Pie on a night like this.mp3 (92.92 KB)
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Post by mimmihopps on Nov 25, 2014 9:27:11 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that themanwithnoname, always wondered about that! Here's one I don't recall being mentioned. Caro Emerald's 2009 hit single A Night Like This is based around what sound to me like the same Mellotron sample to that heard in the outro of Magic Pie. I've attached an mp3 comparing the two. Now, must get back to work View AttachmentThanks for that, davidjay. I'm gonna have a listen of it as I'm curious. Caro Emerald isn't my thing, but I've read that she's well known in the UK (or not?). I remember that she played at a free festival in my town a couple of years ago, but now she's guite huge in her homecountry.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 25, 2014 12:24:34 GMT -5
Caro Emerald isn't my thing either. I've seen her perform at the Serious Request finale in Enschede two years ago and I hated it. I may or may not have flipped the bird at her.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 16:05:42 GMT -5
The bass line in the demo version of Songbird is Waterfall by the Stone Roses.
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Post by asimarx on Nov 25, 2014 16:16:13 GMT -5
The bass line in the demo version of Songbird is Waterfall by the Stone Roses. I was always thinking of Taxman or/and especially Rain. Haven't really compared it thoroughly. But you're right. I have put that demo version on a lot of mixtapes at that time and everyone, especially, uh, girls seemed to love that tune. It's superior to the stripped back album version, in my opinion anyways. He doesn't get any credit in the booklet of the DVD single but apparently Johnny Marr is featured in that recording as well.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Nov 25, 2014 16:17:41 GMT -5
Reminded me more of Taxman and a sped up Rain as well. They definitely were going for that Revolver sound on the demo.
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Post by kennerado on Dec 10, 2014 2:17:11 GMT -5
At the start of the demo of Stand By Me there is a sample of an old man yelling "what you want, you stupid woman!What you want?!" and then says something like "blue roots". Does anyone know what this is and where its from?
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Post by davidjay on Dec 10, 2014 7:26:11 GMT -5
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Post by carlober on Dec 10, 2014 7:56:56 GMT -5
Wow, great! I've always loved those guitar sounds!
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Post by Cast on Dec 10, 2014 11:54:24 GMT -5
This is very nice indeed. There are some really great guitar licks and sounds on BHN problem is they were all mixed in together. Like a painter blending in too many colors that it eventually becomes black. The army of guitars on BHN creates a really thick wall of guitar sound that is good and fun to listen to. Just a shame some of those hooks get lost. On the flipside it is an album that if you listen to it carefully you'll probably discover something new because of all the sounds that are jam packed into it.
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 10, 2014 12:49:39 GMT -5
Now I want to hear the whole thing.
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Post by carlober on Dec 10, 2014 15:09:10 GMT -5
Now I want to hear the whole thing. I made a full version (thanks to davidjay for giving me the idea), it brings out some interesting details which are usually buried under the wall of sound. I think I can't upload it since it's still officially released material (sort of!). If you have an audio editor like Audacity on your PC it's quite easy though!
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Post by Mean Mrs. Mustard on Dec 10, 2014 15:19:09 GMT -5
Now I want to hear the whole thing. I made a full version (thanks to davidjay for giving me the idea), it brings out some interesting details which are usually buried under the wall of sound. I think I can't upload it since it's still officially released material (sort of!). If you have an audio editor like Audacity on your PC it's quite easy though! Oh I do have Audacity! Completely forgot about it. I spent hours dissecting Beatles songs with that. It's so amazing what you can find, buried beneath all the different instruments and vocals.
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Post by Manualex on Dec 10, 2014 15:20:37 GMT -5
upload to youtube or soundcloud instead carlober
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