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Post by idledreamer on Feb 15, 2009 2:18:32 GMT -5
Since when was the US the world? NOT just the u.s. ,, i was just using it as an example since i live here now, the main subject of this thread is whether or not the lads are 'relevant' or not, well face the facts if you want to be 'relevant' musically, you have to crack the states... yes, the states, home of brit and timberlake and jonas brothers and big mac fucking fatty american fast food... not the way it should be but it is so face the sad reality... the day d.o.y.s came out... i of cousrse was the first one in the store to buy my copy... i was the only one in there... amid the 'new releases' there was d.o.y.s. ... 150 roughly of em... when i took my copy up to the clerk the fat fuck was slumped over the counter, about ready to nod off... hardly sounds like an 'event' to me mate... my point is, to compare oasis to the stones in terms of longevity and relevance... is just silly... the average person anywhere in the world, even a non-music fan... can rattle off 4,5,6,7 stones songs off the top ... the average person will tehn say 'oasis, eh ya wonderwall'... that's just the way it is... the stones have been around since the early 60's... oasis won't even last half of that... time to take off the rose coloured-glasses and face it mate  |
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Feb 15, 2009 3:25:25 GMT -5
I'm drunk.....didn't even read the crap (im assuming it was) 'Bag it up' alone makes me fuckin pumped!!! Better than even those MGMT songs.........'Bag it up' is the 'slideaway' song....one for the fans that isnt a single!!!!  ) |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2009 3:54:44 GMT -5
Since when was the US the world? NOT just the u.s. ,, i was just using it as an example since i live here now, the main subject of this thread is whether or not the lads are 'relevant' or not, well face the facts if you want to be 'relevant' musically, you have to crack the states... yes, the states, home of brit and timberlake and jonas brothers and big mac fucking fatty american fast food... not the way it should be but it is so face the sad reality... the day d.o.y.s came out... i of cousrse was the first one in the store to buy my copy... i was the only one in there... amid the 'new releases' there was d.o.y.s. ... 150 roughly of em... when i took my copy up to the clerk the fat fuck was slumped over the counter, about ready to nod off... hardly sounds like an 'event' to me mate... my point is, to compare oasis to the stones in terms of longevity and relevance... is just silly... the average person anywhere in the world, even a non-music fan... can rattle off 4,5,6,7 stones songs off the top ... the average person will tehn say 'oasis, eh ya wonderwall'... that's just the way it is... the stones have been around since the early 60's... oasis won't even last half of that... time to take off the rose coloured-glasses and face it mate Cool your fucking jets man. I never mentioned The Rolling Stones, it was more about the US and the significance of the music industry in general. I would like to ask you, when was the last big album event? One that wasn't spoiled by leaks or illegal downloading? I can't think of one any time recently. I think it's for you to release that being "relevant" doesn't necessarily mean getting a #1 on the Billboard 100 or selling 200k copies in one day. And yes, that does include Oasis. They are not the most relevant band, not even close, but they can still pull a young audience to their gigs. They can still appeal to a lot of the youth, that must count for something (same goes for The Stones). |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2009 17:19:36 GMT -5
I will agree with Kalas in that DOYS was the first Oasis album that didn't feel like 'an event' when it came out. ok let's be real for a minute... the last real release day 'event' for oasis was be here now. in the grand scheme of things to MUSIC fans oasis haven't been relevant since giants. the only people who get all keyed up anymore for oasis album releases are us diehards... not just in the states but also in other parts of the world as well i still love this band, but c'mon now,, to even compare oasis to the stones... sure the stones are not relevant anymore but they still remain a household name everywhere in the world... prolly 4 out of 5 people in the u.s. don't even know who oasis are ... that's the sad truth  THAT IS MY POINT all u people who want to post trash about me is fine but what he said is true there is no more anticapattion for a oasis album ,and after the first week it plummets ,if u dont like what i print have a real opinion ,dont be a asshole |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 23, 2009 17:23:36 GMT -5
ok let's be real for a minute... the last real release day 'event' for oasis was be here now. in the grand scheme of things to MUSIC fans oasis haven't been relevant since giants. the only people who get all keyed up anymore for oasis album releases are us diehards... not just in the states but also in other parts of the world as well i still love this band, but c'mon now,, to even compare oasis to the stones... sure the stones are not relevant anymore but they still remain a household name everywhere in the world... prolly 4 out of 5 people in the u.s. don't even know who oasis are ... that's the sad truth THAT IS MY POINT all u people who want to post trash about me is fine but what he said is true there is no more anticapattion for a oasis album ,and after the first week it plummets ,if u dont like what i print have a real opinion ,dont be a asshole don't be an asshole |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 23, 2009 18:30:07 GMT -5
Since when was the US the world? NOT just the u.s. ,, i was just using it as an example since i live here now, the main subject of this thread is whether or not the lads are 'relevant' or not, well face the facts if you want to be 'relevant' musically, you have to crack the states... Wrong, what a load of horseshit. Are you saying that The Smiths, The Stone Roses, The Jam arn't relevant because they didn't break the states? Moron. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 23, 2009 18:31:49 GMT -5
NOT just the u.s. ,, i was just using it as an example since i live here now, the main subject of this thread is whether or not the lads are 'relevant' or not, well face the facts if you want to be 'relevant' musically, you have to crack the states... Wrong, what a load of horseshit. Are you saying that The Smiths, The Stone Roses, The Jam arn't relevant because they didn't break the states? Moron. Furthermore, is this idiot claiming that the Backstreet Boys are relevant since they did break the United States? |
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Post by thestellasarecold on Feb 23, 2009 21:45:01 GMT -5
The band is perhaps not what it once was in terms of profile (especially here in Australia) and indeed musical output. However, fourteen years is a long time... In that context, Oasis are still a 'healthy' band. There is large and dedicated fan base who keep the ball rolling and DOYS, whilst it could never recapture the spirit of the early releases, still maintains a certain musical integrity IMO. Will people be debating and dissecting the Kaiser Chiefs' latest record on a forum like this in a decade's time? I doubt it.
The music industry is incredibly fickle and shallow these days- bands of the moment are often over-hyped, many come and go and with the rise of the iPod and file sharing, there is a feeling of everything being more disposable. Oasis have maintained a solid, if unspectacular, position amongst all this. And many mediums- music press, radio, internet- often have this 'too-cool-for-school' attitude where more seasoned groups like Oasis are shunned as 'uncool' in favour of the latest sensation. Also, because of their gobby natures, the industry is probably more eager to shoot the Gallaghers down without really considering their prolific musical output. Unlike say, Mr Philanthropy Bono or 'gentleman' Chris Martin. Like it or not, all this influences the casual music listener; many like being told what to listen to rather than seeking out quality music. Bono can kiss my hairy arse, I'll be sticking with Oasis.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 23, 2009 23:12:46 GMT -5
The band is perhaps not what it once was in terms of profile (especially here in Australia) and indeed musical output. However, fourteen years is a long time... In that context, Oasis are still a 'healthy' band. There is large and dedicated fan base who keep the ball rolling and DOYS, whilst it could never recapture the spirit of the early releases, still maintains a certain musical integrity IMO. Will people be debating and dissecting the Kaiser Chiefs' latest record on a forum like this in a decade's time? I doubt it. The music industry is incredibly fickle and shallow these days- bands of the moment are often over-hyped, many come and go and with the rise of the iPod and file sharing, there is a feeling of everything being more disposable. Oasis have maintained a solid, if unspectacular, position amongst all this. And many mediums- music press, radio, internet- often have this 'too-cool-for-school' attitude where more seasoned groups like Oasis are shunned as 'uncool' in favour of the latest sensation. Also, because of their gobby natures, the industry is probably more eager to shoot the Gallaghers down without really considering their prolific musical output. Unlike say, Mr Philanthropy Bono or 'gentleman' Chris Martin. Like it or not, all this influences the casual music listener; many like being told what to listen to rather than seeking out quality music. Bono can kiss my hairy arse, I'll be sticking with Oasis. Post of the year.  Great points, all of which I agree with |
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Post by suckermc on Feb 24, 2009 4:40:06 GMT -5
i can tell you what i have recognized over the last years. oasis are pulling more and more people, especially young people to their gigs. dont know if album sales are still that irrelevant for that kind of audience(i dont think they buy whole albums anymore...)
and i can tell you: especially in germany the only song of the stones which can be named by an average man on the street is satisfaction( exception are the old people and some musicnerds as i am).
and cracking the usa is NOT a sign for relevance in the world in any way(just in terms of sales, but not more). besides that at least in very many countries in the world oasis`songs are known, also the new ones, and they FILL(mostly to the last seat) bigger venues than they did during the be here now-era.
we dont live in times of the stones, zeppelin or the police, when one band appeal that big audience. the musicscene is more diverse than ever. and oasis is, after all these years in a really good position, up to the top10 or at least top20 bands in the world.(whatever that means)....and they will stay there forever i can guess
and in comparison to other bands like u2 or coldplay, which play interms of sales on higher level than oasis, the releases of an oasisalbum is a bigger event than anew rel. of the other bands.
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Post by jilliam on Feb 24, 2009 11:46:07 GMT -5
ok let's be real for a minute... the last real release day 'event' for oasis was be here now. in the grand scheme of things to MUSIC fans oasis haven't been relevant since giants. the only people who get all keyed up anymore for oasis album releases are us diehards... not just in the states but also in other parts of the world as well i still love this band, but c'mon now,, to even compare oasis to the stones... sure the stones are not relevant anymore but they still remain a household name everywhere in the world... prolly 4 out of 5 people in the u.s. don't even know who oasis are ... that's the sad truth THAT IS MY POINT all u people who want to post trash about me is fine but what he said is true there is no more anticapattion for a oasis album ,and after the first week it plummets ,if u dont like what i print have a real opinion ,dont be a asshole I think what you guys are going through is called "growing-up" in life. I recall to when I was a young'un, it was a full out "event" to go buy the newest Morrissey album the day of its release, as was buying WTSMG, BHN, MP, hell even Giants...and not to say that my love and zest for Oasis has left, as I still look very much forward to listening to the music (even though now Ive heard the Lp when it 1st leaks on line) and seeing the album art...life just kind of turns and one realises that theres more important things in life to make an event out of...know what I mean? |
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Post by oasis21128 on Feb 24, 2009 11:52:23 GMT -5
THAT IS MY POINT all u people who want to post trash about me is fine but what he said is true there is no more anticapattion for a oasis album ,and after the first week it plummets ,if u dont like what i print have a real opinion ,dont be a asshole don't be an asshole ...legend. |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 24, 2009 13:55:04 GMT -5
People have to understand that USA in not important anymore, today albums like Loveless would be straight to #1 because of the Net and the Hype of the midia.
Look at Arctic Monkeys, they didn't have any pop song that crack the USA, but anyhow their second album debuted at number seven on Billboard, until the 90's a band to do sucess in the world first had to break America like doing a song so popular as Wonderwall, but not today anymore.
The same goes to radio, the MP3 killed it, it explain why albums like Vampire Weekend or Oracular Spectacular are becoming popular, today what metters is internet reviews and MP3.
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Post by MacaRonic on Feb 24, 2009 14:43:19 GMT -5
I don't give two fucks how big Oasis are. Even if they were virtually unknown by everyone else on the planet, I love their music. Only my opinion matters to me.
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Post by Superguiller. on Mar 1, 2009 19:51:42 GMT -5
My gf's sister is 18. She's just discovered 60s and 70s music and she's actually pretty mad for it--> Proof that Oasis aren't done, they're on their way of becoming actual rock n' roll legends (already are to me, but not necessarily to the regular rock listener).
The reason Oasis are not 'popular' anymore is because rock n' roll isn't popular anymore.
This is the age of rap, kalas, if you want good music then don't turn on the radio.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Mar 1, 2009 19:56:25 GMT -5
Since when was the US the world? Since George W. Bush became President |
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Post by psj3809 on Mar 2, 2009 4:46:06 GMT -5
oasis were the best band in the world ,at 1 point thery were a band that made me fly to the uk every tour ,but now just like the stones or van halen they have stayed on too long ,yes they debut on the charts great but there is no staying power,and from a critical standpoint this album doesent even raise my blood pressure, they are a legendary band that is simply done they are now what we all back in the 90s rebelled against a tired rock group that can sell out WEMBLEY (like the stones ) but are no longer relevant ,,,critisize me if u like but its the truth ,,,and i aint flyin over to here this cd it just aint worth it If you feel like that why do you bother posting here when you know 99.9% of people here are major fans ? I hate Westlife but i wont join a Westlife forum to moan how crap they are. You think Oasis are over then fair enough, I personally still think they make great albums. All because theyre not as big as they were in 95 etc doesnt matter to me. I'm glad all the 'bandwagonners' have left, couldnt stand it when they all joined in. As long as i like the album i dont care what other people think about it. You dont like the latest album, fair enough. If you think theyre done and dusted why do you bother posting here ? No doubt going to moan constantly at how crap Oasis are ? Whats the point ? |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Mar 2, 2009 7:46:52 GMT -5
I don't care about Oasis being big, I just want them to be good.
Liam's voice is fucked and Dig Out Your Soul is, personally speaking (because remember people, this is all about opinions and they do differ from person to person) their worst album to date.
I'm not saying they're finished, but I can understand why some long-term fans from 'back in the day' are a bit underwhelmed at the moment.
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