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Post by mouth on Jan 29, 2023 16:37:22 GMT -5
i mean, there's a reason, that the term "noelrock" was invented to describe a certain sound, which 90ies prime noel and his way of playing the guitar created.
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Post by NYR on Feb 2, 2023 18:20:03 GMT -5
If I may offer my two cents here… twelve years after first doing so…
Technical ability is important, for sure, but that only gets you so far. It's what you do with it that counts the most… well, to me, at least. The biggest question I think we should ask is this: does the guitar part (whether rhythm or lead) fit the song?
If we're talking about lead guitar, the guitarists I most appreciate are the ones who can tell stories with their solos. David Gilmour is a perfect example of that. He doesn't need to have Steve Vai's chops to make you pay attention; the narrative arc to his solos, not to mention his tone, are what hook you in. I think of Noel's playing in a similar way. Even though he almost always plays in pentatonic, there's a musicality to his solos that make me love them so much.
Johnny Marr is a creative guitarist who makes rhythm and lead parts that fit the songs perfectly. Does he have to play like Hendrix? No. And that's my point.
There are countless guitarists who are technically far better than Noel Gallagher. But I find that to be completely irrelevant; what Noel plays fits his songs perfectly. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Well, to me, at least.
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Post by GlastoEls on Feb 5, 2023 11:15:05 GMT -5
If I may offer my two cents here… twelve years after first doing so… Technical ability is important, for sure, but that only gets you so far. It's what you do with it that counts the most… well, to me, at least. The biggest question I think we should ask is this: does the guitar part (whether rhythm or lead) fit the song? If we're talking about lead guitar, the guitarists I most appreciate are the ones who can tell stories with their solos. David Gilmour is a perfect example of that. He doesn't need to have Steve Vai's chops to make you pay attention; the narrative arc to his solos, not to mention his tone, are what hook you in. I think of Noel's playing in a similar way. Even though he almost always plays in pentatonic, there's a musicality to his solos that make me love them so much. Johnny Marr is a creative guitarist who makes rhythm and lead parts that fit the songs perfectly. Does he have to play like Hendrix? No. And that's my point. There are countless guitarists who are technically far better than Noel Gallagher. But I find that to be completely irrelevant; what Noel plays fits his songs perfectly. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Well, to me, at least. A fine post.
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Post by NYR on Feb 13, 2023 9:41:35 GMT -5
If I may offer my two cents here… twelve years after first doing so… Technical ability is important, for sure, but that only gets you so far. It's what you do with it that counts the most… well, to me, at least. The biggest question I think we should ask is this: does the guitar part (whether rhythm or lead) fit the song? If we're talking about lead guitar, the guitarists I most appreciate are the ones who can tell stories with their solos. David Gilmour is a perfect example of that. He doesn't need to have Steve Vai's chops to make you pay attention; the narrative arc to his solos, not to mention his tone, are what hook you in. I think of Noel's playing in a similar way. Even though he almost always plays in pentatonic, there's a musicality to his solos that make me love them so much. Johnny Marr is a creative guitarist who makes rhythm and lead parts that fit the songs perfectly. Does he have to play like Hendrix? No. And that's my point. There are countless guitarists who are technically far better than Noel Gallagher. But I find that to be completely irrelevant; what Noel plays fits his songs perfectly. At the end of the day, that's all that matters. Well, to me, at least. A fine post. Thanks. I feel the same way about singers. The likes of Bob Dylan, Serge Gainsbourg, and Mick Jagger would be laughed out of the room in any TV singing competition, but that doesn't matter. Do their voices fit their music? I think so, which is all that matters. To me, at least.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 23, 2023 5:16:26 GMT -5
Is hanging a banana on a white wall art?
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Post by El Auténtico Dios on Mar 8, 2023 9:12:26 GMT -5
He is a good one. Definitely. Not about ability, nor complexity. It's just about good taste. Oasis guitars and solos are plenty of it. The technic also is to press and move with grace, the shades in your sound, the layers in your mixes. An example: the last minute of It's good to be free, there are some crossed chords, little details -almost mistakes- that only make that part better. You can find a lot of this in the 4 first albums. Later everything seems to be overproduced, I think this kind of record / performance thing(which Noel keeps until today) make him and his music sounding less raw and natural.
You have to be a really good one with the guitar to succeed with that perfect being imperfect thing.
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Post by thet1000 on Mar 11, 2023 11:15:08 GMT -5
fuck him CS is one of the best solo's i've ever heard. Noel is quite under rated as a guitarist even by himself. Solo's for me are all about like noelhimself said about the melody on the guitar part than actual guitar skill. I've seen some amazing technical work done but it doesn't always sound as good as a pure "simple" melodic solo. Especially after the sung parts are over in the live versions from 96-98. remarkable soloing.
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Post by capo2ndfret on Jul 15, 2023 8:50:19 GMT -5
His peak as a guitarist was 1997/1998, he really thought he was Hendrix reincarnate in those years. He was definitely good in that period, and his riff writing in the 90s was excellent. After 1998? Same skill level but boring uninspired playing.
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Post by Diamond in The Dark on Jul 15, 2023 9:13:59 GMT -5
My cousin (now in his fifties) guitarist since he was a teenager who studied guitar and trains every day of his life (his idol is Joe Satriani), said that Noel Gallagher is a mediocre guitarist. I also showed him the guitar solo that Noel did at Budokan in 1998 and he replied: "Just in this video there are all the limits and incompetences of Noel Gallagher as a guitarist".
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Post by rockrevival on Jul 15, 2023 10:58:13 GMT -5
He was/is an excellent guitar player. He's a top tier songwriter and the guitar is his medium.
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Post by uboasis on Jul 16, 2023 15:50:30 GMT -5
My cousin (now in his fifties) guitarist since he was a teenager who studied guitar and trains every day of his life (his idol is Joe Satriani), said that Noel Gallagher is a mediocre guitarist. I also showed him the guitar solo that Noel did at Budokan in 1998 and he replied: "Just in this video there are all the limits and incompetences of Noel Gallagher as a guitarist". To me, it doesn't matter. I'm happy he writes good songs and releases great recordings and he is the music director who makes it happen. He's always been pretty humble about his guitar skills and is not too proud to allow Gem, Paul Stacey. or Johnny Marr either execute his vision or take it to a different level.
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Post by mimmihopps on Jul 17, 2023 4:14:39 GMT -5
Noel was clearly "into" when he was playing that long outro of Champagne Supernova at Budokan in 1998. Still absolutely brilliant.
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Post by jeffrey on Jul 17, 2023 15:36:53 GMT -5
Noel was a truly tremendous songwriter in his prime that got the most out of his guitar-playing ability, but he’s an average guitarist, at best. That’s not to say his riffs/solos didn’t perfectly fit the tunes, however, his style was one-dimensional; very limited, technically.
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Post by Jake Rawlinson on Jul 17, 2023 20:41:15 GMT -5
Noel was a truly tremendous songwriter in his prime that got the most out of his guitar-playing ability, but he’s an average guitarist, at best. That’s not to say his riffs/solos didn’t perfectly fit the tunes, however, his style was one-dimensional; very limited, technically. Noël’s going through a divorce and’s separated from his cats, give the guy a break! God bless.
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