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Post by jamesmorrison4evr on Nov 14, 2008 12:35:45 GMT -5
1. Gigi Buffon- Juventus & Italy
2. Daniel Alves- Barcelona & Brazil
3. Patrice Evra- Man Utd & France
4. John Terry- Chelsea & England
5. Alessandro Nesta- A.C. Milan & Italy
6. Gennaro Gattuso- A.C. Milan & Italy
7. Steven Gerrard- Liverpool & England
8. Cesc Fabregas- Arsenal & Spain
9. Fernando Torres- Liverpool & Spain
10. Kaka- A.C. Milan & Brazil
11. Leo Messi- Barcelona & Argentina
Whatcha think? As a Man Utd fan, it depresses me to see that only one of their players merits a player in my fab 11. Lucky matches aren't won on paper!!
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 14, 2008 12:42:55 GMT -5
It depresses me that you picked John Terry over Rio Ferdinand. It depresses me that you left out Cristiano Ronaldo in favour of both Kaka and Leo Messi. Kaka, in particular. Have a word with yourself, pal.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2008 18:53:31 GMT -5
no rooney |
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Post by MG on Nov 14, 2008 22:00:53 GMT -5
thought this was gonna be about the sky1 series.
it was ruined when they took the youths out of it imo
to drunk to debate the proper subject at the moment
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Post by Don1™ on Nov 15, 2008 12:38:25 GMT -5
1. Petr Cech - Chelsea & Czech Republic
2. Daniel Alves - Barcelona & Brazil
3. Patrice Evra - Man Utd & France
4. John Terry - Chelsea & England
5. Alessandro Nesta - A.C. Milan & Italy
6. Cristiano Ronaldo - Man United & Portugal
7. Steven Gerrard - Liverpool & England
8. Kaka - A.C. Milan & Brazil
9. Fernando Torres - Liverpool & Spain
10. Wayne Rooney - Man United & England
11. Leo Messi - Barcelona & Argentina
Not too disimilar, just copied yours and changed a few.
Buffons overrated IMO. So swapped with Cech. Pepe Reina is close as well.
Ronaldo had to be in there.
Through Rooney in as well, because couldn't think of anyone else. There must be someone better but can;t think at the minute. I'll change it if I think of someone.
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Post by jamesmorrison4evr on Nov 17, 2008 4:03:29 GMT -5
Rooney was a great player for us 3 years ago, but hasn't hit the same heights since. While I grant you that he is talented, and that he works hard, but he is far too inconsistent. To be a great player, you have to play well ALL SEASON, and Rooney only does the business occasionally. He has already had his 6/7 good matches in a row this season, so he probably won't do much for us from now on.
Buffon is a hero, and Casillas is a close 2nd.
I think that Messi and Kaka are better players than Ronaldo. I'm not one of these people who says that he is shit, but I just think that he isn't really a midfielder. He says he is a right winger, but just cos he jogs over to that side every now and again doesn,t change the fact that he is usually in a more advanced position than Rooney or Berba. A truly great goalscorer, but he needs to be provided with the chances to finish, whereas Messi and Kaka can do it on their own. A tough call, I admit, but there ya go.
As for Rio, he was class last season, but this season he has been back to his old self. He is once again leaving all responsibility to Vidic, and losing concentration easily (Everton match anyone?)
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 17, 2008 7:23:17 GMT -5
A truly great goalscorer, but he needs to be provided with the chances to finish, whereas Messi and Kaka can do it on their own. That, sir, is nonsense of the highest order. As for Rio, he was class last season, but this season he has been back to his old self. He is still, and always has been, better than John fucking Terry. |
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Post by jamesmorrison4evr on Nov 17, 2008 8:35:37 GMT -5
A truly great goalscorer, but he needs to be provided with the chances to finish, whereas Messi and Kaka can do it on their own. That, sir, is nonsense of the highest order. As for Rio, he was class last season, but this season he has been back to his old self. He is still, and always has been, better than John fucking Terry. I can understand your viewpoint on Ronaldo. Indeed, while many have been criticising his form this season, I feel that he has improved since last term, as he is more willing to set up others (which should be his job after all) rather than just glorying all the time. After Christmas, I may review his Dream team position. I can't help but remember when United played Barcelona in the CL last year, Messi tore us to shreds while Ronaldo just pouted petulantly. And when United played Milan two years ago, Kaka single handedly dumped us out of the competition with his magical goals, while Gattuso easily had Ronaldo's number over the two legs. It isn't that he doesn't perform on the big occasions (CL final goal for example), but whenever he comes up against a player who is equally as renowned as himself (Messi, Kaka, even Fabregas virtually every time they play Arsenal), he flops while they only rise to the occasion. As one well respected coach at MUFC commented when Fergie appeared on TV claiming Rio was 'the best defender in the world': 'Best in the world?? He isn't even the best at United!!' Vidic rules that back 4!!! And Terry is a complete prat of a person, but a great defender and a formidable leader. Rio is nearly as good, but nearly isn't enough. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 17, 2008 9:01:31 GMT -5
And Terry is a complete prat of a person, but a great defender and a formidable leader. Rio is nearly as good, but nearly isn't enough. Formidable? He's a shithouse. He's made out to be some kind of hero because he 'wears his heart on his sleeve', but that alone does not make him a great defender. He's lucky to have always had a reliable holding midfielder in front of him (Makelele, Essien, Mikel), because I sincerely believe that if he played for a club with an all-out attacking philosophy (Arsenal, for instance) he'd be a fucking nervous wreck. Honestly, mate, you'd be hard pressed to find many - who don't wear Chelsea blue - that would side with John Terry ahead of Rio Ferdinand. Witness the raised eyebrows when Fabio Capello named his full-time England captain. |
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Post by jamesmorrison4evr on Nov 17, 2008 9:10:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't exactly call Mikel 'reliable'. He is aerially the best defender in the world, reads the game very well, and the fact that he is as slow as Notorious L4E's train of thought doesn't matter as he is never caught out of position. He scores lots of (vital) goals as well. A fine player, although I am clearly never gonna change your mind!!
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 17, 2008 9:23:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't exactly call Mikel 'reliable'. Well, I had toyed with 'semi-reliable', but I thought that'd have been a disservice to Essien and Makelele. And you're right, you're never going to change my mind. John Terry, to me, will always be the smug c*nt who strode up to the penalty spot in Moscow, adjusting his armband, just dying for the opportunity to prove to the world how much of a 'big man' he is, only to fluff the biggest moment of his career and cost his club their first European Cup. Never has a man's career been so encapsulated in one defining moment. |
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Post by jamesmorrison4evr on Nov 17, 2008 9:26:56 GMT -5
Lets not forget Ronaldo fucked up his pen as well!!
I mean, if you are gonna throw a shimmy EVERY time you run up to strike one, the keeper is hardly gonna be surprised by it! Lets hope the boy will learn!!
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 17, 2008 9:39:22 GMT -5
Lets not forget Ronaldo fucked up his pen as well!! At least he hit the bleeding target. John Terry, on the other hand, made a fool of himself in front of a worldwide audience, spent about three days sobbing, issued an 'apology' on the Chelsea website, and then claimed that his headed goal in a meaningless friendly against the United States was proof that he's a 'big game player'. I'll say it again: he's a shithouse. |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Nov 17, 2008 13:40:12 GMT -5
Ya i remember my uncle was at the match (utd fan) and 3 mins after JT's miss i got a text ''Couldn't have happened to a bigger prat.''
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Post by MisterSupernova on Nov 17, 2008 15:00:14 GMT -5
I'm mainly going to base my team on players from the English leagues and those that I've seen in Internationals, as I rarely watch mainly forgein games and the only thing I have to go on with other players is their reputation. And, oh yeah, I'm a Liverpool fan hence the probably terrible bias towards them so apologies for that  . Saying that, to explain my choices from rival teams I may support my club to the end but I'm fair with regards to peoples talent. GK: Iker Casillas DR: Jose Boswinga DL: Gareth Barry DC: Jamie Carragher DC: Carlos Puyol MR: Christiano Ronaldo ML: Stewart Downing MC: Steven Gerrard MC: Andrea Pirlo FC: Robbie Fowler (when he was in prime mind, obviously ;D) FC: Fernando Torres Not happy with that left back option mind, and not because of the whole 'will he come, won't he come' thing, I know I can come up with a better option...but think of one at this mo' in time  . Have to get back on that. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 17, 2008 19:18:50 GMT -5
^ I don't even know where to begin picking apart that one. |
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Post by MisterSupernova on Nov 18, 2008 15:31:28 GMT -5
Yeah, looking back on it its a pretty poor side...but then again it was my dream team. If it was what I thought the best of World XI my side would probably be way different. And it would definately not include Fowler by all means... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2008 19:33:47 GMT -5
Stewart Downing  |
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Post by Idol on Nov 18, 2008 23:39:56 GMT -5
^ I don't even know where to begin picking apart that one. Well, why don't you post your 'dream team' so we can all see what a perfect line up is? Oh wait, it'll just be Man U squad right? yeah, silly me.... One question, let's say that Ferguson, Ronaldo and Rooney happen to be in the same room with you...and all three of them take their cocks out at the same time...whose cock would you suck first??  |
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Post by jamesmorrison4evr on Nov 19, 2008 3:38:58 GMT -5
^ I don't even know where to begin picking apart that one. Well, why don't you post your 'dream team' so we can all see what a perfect line up is? Oh wait, it'll just be Man U squad right? yeah, silly me.... One question, let's say that Ferguson, Ronaldo and Rooney happen to be in the same room with you...and all three of them take their cocks out at the same time...whose cock would you suck first?? ;D ;D (Rooney by the way. As we see every match, his stamina is amazing.....Ronaldo would just dribble too much and then have no real end product......) |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 20, 2008 11:42:24 GMT -5
Well, why don't you post your 'dream team' so we can all see what a perfect line up is? Petr Cech Gianluca Zambrotta Rio Ferdinand Fabio Cannavaro Patrice Evra Michael Carrick Steven Gerrard Cesc Fabregas Cristiano Ronaldo Fernando Torres Lionel Messi Playing in a 433 formation, with Carrick (yes, Carrick) playing his typical defensive midfield role, allowing Gerrard and Fabregas to get forward. Torres would operate as a lone striker, with Messi and Ronaldo providing support from the wings. And while I may be biased when it comes to United, that doesn't make the points I've made any less true. There aren't many people you'll find who would argue that John Terry is a better defender than Rio Ferdinand. And for anyone - let alone a professed Manchester United fan - to accuse Cristiano Ronaldo of having 'no end product' is astonishing. I can think of only three possible reasons that a person would make such a claim: a) you watch football with your eyes closed, b) you're trying to be clever by undermining his ability, despite the fact that he's the unquestionable favourite for FIFA World Footballer Of The Year, or c) you're a complete and utter fucking moron. Oh, and Idol, to answer your final question? Sir Alex Ferguson. He may be old, but he's done the most to deserve it. |
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Post by Idol on Nov 20, 2008 14:33:45 GMT -5
Oh, and Idol, to answer your final question? Sir Alex Ferguson. He may be old, but he's done the most to deserve it. Yeah, I knew that...that's why I included him ;D Anyway, not a bad list but... Cech? over Casillas and Buffon? Zambrotta? a few years ago maybe, Maicon, Ramos are much better now I do like Ferdinand better than Terry, but not for a dream team list, not when you have the likes of Nesta around Evra? well, he's ok but I'd go wth Lahm Carrick ;D I like the rest though, still, I'd like Ribery somewhere in my team |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Nov 20, 2008 14:57:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I know. Personal choice. But, I honestly believe he's developing into one of the best central midfielders in Europe. His passing is fucking sublime, and he's become one of United's most important players; not to mention being at the top of a pecking order which also includes Paul Scholes (who is, I might add, my all-time favourite United player), Anderson, and Owen Hargreaves. And I won't bother arguing over the rest. ;D |
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. Saying that, to explain my choices from rival teams I may support my club to the end but I'm fair with regards to peoples talent.
. Have to get back on that.
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